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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#701
On October 14 2012 15:32 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:29 Whatson wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:27 oogieogie wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 oogieogie wrote:
going to say it all day..carriers suck ass


Fixed this for you

hey we have never seen carriers in PvP..they could be awesome in that MU <_<

lol there was a game HerO played on stream about 6 months ago. Carriers actually suck in PvP too, collosi stalker rapes any carrier comp.

what about carriers/immortals and zealots? I've tried that before and it crushed collosi stalkers...

Idk if that works, but that army has 0 splash
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
October 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#702
On October 14 2012 15:32 WindWolf wrote:
Now I don't know who to cheer for. HerO or Parting, though choice.

It's a PvP, and I really like to watch PvP


Cheer for HerO and herO so we can see the casters cast that.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
October 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#703
On October 14 2012 15:32 vthree wrote:
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On October 14 2012 15:28 Wildmoon wrote:
Infestor can do too many things. Seriously, I can't think of anything it can't do.


It can't mine mineral or gas.

Neural enemy worker -> mine minerals and gas
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 06:34:00
October 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#704
So this means seed is out, right? He tied with creator at No. 7 in this tournament.

All top 6 don't have direct seed.
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
October 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#705
On October 14 2012 15:32 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:28 Wildmoon wrote:
Infestor can do too many things. Seriously, I can't think of anything it can't do.


It can't mine mineral or gas.

Zerg doesn't need it when they can make units with energy
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
October 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#706
On October 14 2012 15:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
So this means seed is out, right? He tied with creator at No. 7 in this tournament.

All top 6 don't have direct seed.


Yes.
DropTester
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia608 Posts
October 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#707
On October 14 2012 15:33 Mysticesper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:32 WindWolf wrote:
Now I don't know who to cheer for. HerO or Parting, though choice.

It's a PvP, and I really like to watch PvP


Cheer for HerO and herO so we can see the casters cast that.


that sounds like the most fun
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
October 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#708
On October 14 2012 15:32 opterown wrote:
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On October 14 2012 15:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 prOpSnuffe wrote:
That game was ridiculous, Creator outplayed Curious so hard in the and late game but infestors once again wins the game
I think interceptors being immune to fungal would make the carrier way more viable pvz.


Since when is losing 3rd base against 14 slow zerglings outplaying?

what about sniping the pool, infestation pit, greater spire and hive?

That happens in pretty much every decent level pvz these days, it's an occupational hazard when going broods
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 14 2012 06:34 GMT
#709
Despite that honest mistake or just complete noobness by Jarosar, I still think he's better than Rob Simpson by far...

Other than his Interceptor blabber, he seems decent to be caster.
StooPidMonkey
Profile Joined July 2012
77 Posts
October 14 2012 06:35 GMT
#710
remember davidass kim said abt ghost? they're too good to deal with everything.
but he has no problem with his disgusting nuts, i mean his infestors
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
October 14 2012 06:35 GMT
#711
I wish the infester's fungal isn't instant cast and instead make it a projectile.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
October 14 2012 06:35 GMT
#712
On October 14 2012 15:22 TheBJ wrote:
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On October 14 2012 15:22 Bwaaaa wrote:
and he saves the nexus


BUT ONLY AFTER WASTNG INTERCEPTORS :D

I wasn't sure if we were allowed to caster bash...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 14 2012 06:35 GMT
#713
On October 14 2012 15:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
So this means seed is out, right? He tied with creator at No. 7 in this tournament.

All top 6 don't have direct seed.


yeah seed is out

the players who qualify

liquid'hero
cj hero[join]
parting
rain
roro
curious

and creator from winning wcs KR
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 14 2012 06:35 GMT
#714
On October 14 2012 15:31 Akhee wrote:
i didnt know much about this caster, jorosar, but he seems really good except some mistakes like the interceptor thing, everything else he was seeming very confident to talk about

also, carriers.........

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On October 14 2012 15:31 bsdaemon wrote:
Why are so many people complaining about infestors when Creator did his own demise by going pure Carriers and no harassment.

Oh wait, people always complain about infestors...


no harassment

next time he needs to kill 27 bases probably

Lol Creator No HARESSMENT? HAHA are you even watching the same game?

Creator pin Curious at 4 bases while having 5 himself with lots of Zealot haress n DT.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#715
make it where fungal doesn't do damage...they already have a spell (infested terrans) for that

at least blizzard...but start somewhere

I'm aware of how crucial zerg needs infestors to stay alive but this is just getting ridiculous...they need to distribute the strengths out throughout the lair tech (cough cough hydras)
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#716
On October 14 2012 15:34 trinxified wrote:
Despite that honest mistake or just complete noobness by Jarosar, I still think he's better than Rob Simpson by far...

Other than his Interceptor blabber, he seems decent to be caster.


It's too late, some idiot has brought it up on Reddit now he's gonna get witch-hunted
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#717
On October 14 2012 15:34 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:32 opterown wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:31 Sea_Food wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 prOpSnuffe wrote:
That game was ridiculous, Creator outplayed Curious so hard in the and late game but infestors once again wins the game
I think interceptors being immune to fungal would make the carrier way more viable pvz.


Since when is losing 3rd base against 14 slow zerglings outplaying?

what about sniping the pool, infestation pit, greater spire and hive?

That happens in pretty much every decent level pvz these days, it's an occupational hazard when going broods

not all at once though ;p
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 06:44:14
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#718
On October 14 2012 15:26 Ricemagical wrote:
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On October 14 2012 15:25 MangoMountain wrote:
Creator didn't lose because of infestors, he lost because he wasn't mining

Why did he need mining? Cause he needed to replace his interceptors. Why did he need to replace his interceptors? cause they were dying enmasse to the fungals by the infestors.


Also the zerg took his 5th base at like 25-30 minutes, the only problem is he didnt need the additional ressources cus he was never going to lose his army anyways. Once u have that many infestors w/ spines and spores theres no way the protoss can break that position. Creator was forced to sack probes in the lategame so he could have enough army value to go up against curious's army composition because the game ultimately comes down to 1 battle once you have a carrier based army, but then curious kept trading energy for interceptors and he eventually ran out of bank.. theres almost nothing that he could have done differently tbh
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#719
On October 14 2012 15:32 geokilla wrote:
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On October 14 2012 15:31 Whatson wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:29 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:28 Thrillz wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 L3g3nd_ wrote:
i dont think blizzard intended for a spell caster to be massed and be a viable army against mass heavy air units


Yes, that is what they said about the Ghost just after the nerf. The issue lies deeper in the overall design of SC2 though..and there is no quick fixes.


No it lies with Infestor. All casters are in good spot right now except fucking infestor.

The biggest problem is that Zerg needs the infestor, no matter how fucking OP it is, to survive, although if I could, I would remove the infestor for 6 months and see what kind of metagame shifts happened.

Zergs were doing pretty well before Infestors became common in TvZ iirc. More entertaining to watch and play at the very least.

Infestors need to be nerfed, and nerfed hard. At least change the fungal...


Terrans were not nearly as good back then either, why did zerg go to the Inferstor in the first place, to say things like this is rather silly.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 06:41:35
October 14 2012 06:36 GMT
#720
I think the reason games like these are hated is because I think people would like to see the 'ultimate' armies from both sides to have fairly even battles.

Now, it is like, I got this army and you will never break it. It is not really about balance since obviously,, there are many ways to kill the Zerg before he gets that army.
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