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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#741
On October 14 2012 15:39 bsdaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:35 covetousrat wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:31 Akhee wrote:
i didnt know much about this caster, jorosar, but he seems really good except some mistakes like the interceptor thing, everything else he was seeming very confident to talk about

also, carriers.........

On October 14 2012 15:31 bsdaemon wrote:
Why are so many people complaining about infestors when Creator did his own demise by going pure Carriers and no harassment.

Oh wait, people always complain about infestors...


no harassment

next time he needs to kill 27 bases probably

Lol Creator No HARESSMENT? HAHA are you even watching the same game?

Creator pin Curious at 4 bases while having 5 himself with lots of Zealot haress n DT.


I guess im looking at it differently but it seems to me that Creator is only doing that to buy time for his Carriers, no other goal behind it.


Uh yeah, he is.

You have to kill the Zerg army eventually and It's impossible to do without a carrier fleet.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#742
On October 14 2012 15:39 Lennient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:38 opterown wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:38 Lennient wrote:
Creator only used carriers, what's wrong with Curious only used Infestors ? Did Curious only use infestors to beat a standard protoss unit composition ?
But i agree that interceptors shouldn't cost money.

it would be like creator owning mass battlecruisers with mass sentries ;p

i've never tried this, but im pretty sure mass voidrays or mass stalkers can beat BCs

but not mass sentries!

infestor = integral zerg spellcaster. sentry = the same for protoss
brood lord = ultimate zerg capital ship. carrier = ultimate protoss capital ship

infestor > carrier
sentry < brood lord

?????
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#743
On October 14 2012 15:39 bsdaemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:35 covetousrat wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:31 Akhee wrote:
i didnt know much about this caster, jorosar, but he seems really good except some mistakes like the interceptor thing, everything else he was seeming very confident to talk about

also, carriers.........

On October 14 2012 15:31 bsdaemon wrote:
Why are so many people complaining about infestors when Creator did his own demise by going pure Carriers and no harassment.

Oh wait, people always complain about infestors...


no harassment

next time he needs to kill 27 bases probably

Lol Creator No HARESSMENT? HAHA are you even watching the same game?

Creator pin Curious at 4 bases while having 5 himself with lots of Zealot haress n DT.


I guess im looking at it differently but it seems to me that Creator is only doing that to buy time for his Carriers, no other goal behind it.


Because getting those carriers was the goal...
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#744
On October 14 2012 15:40 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:38 Lennient wrote:
Creator only used carriers, what's wrong with Curious only used Infestors ? Did Curious only use infestors to beat a standard protoss unit composition ?
But i agree that interceptors shouldn't cost money.


Response to mass carriers: Broodlord/Infestor
Response to standard late game army: Broodlord/Infestor

Protoss can't engage either. I think that's the problem.

You forgot the shittons of spines and spores that you also have to deal with
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#745
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


Calm down man. Top 8 are 6 Toss and 2 Zerg. Do you seriously complain that we dont get 7 Toss, 1 Zerg?
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 06:42:05
October 14 2012 06:41 GMT
#746
Rain got a lucky path to top 6 though, didn't play any Korean players so far.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#747
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


any composition without infestors are VERY cost ineffecient, not effecient enough to make up for the faster drones and bases, if infestors were nerfed, expect 40% or less winratios for zvt and zvp
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
YiSunsin
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovakia60 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#748
Can somebody tell me something about that trailer after WoL ? Looked like story was from Warcraft3 neutral campaign to me ?
"BO for girls: @8 movie, @10 dinner , around 12 I lean in for the kiss and if that messes up, I try to get back with a little bit of harassment." Day[9]
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#749
On October 14 2012 15:39 Lennient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:38 opterown wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:38 Lennient wrote:
Creator only used carriers, what's wrong with Curious only used Infestors ? Did Curious only use infestors to beat a standard protoss unit composition ?
But i agree that interceptors shouldn't cost money.

it would be like creator owning mass battlecruisers with mass sentries ;p

i've never tried this, but im pretty sure mass voidrays or mass stalkers can beat BCs

But curious never tried to counter creator's with mass corruptor? A more appropriate analogy would be like having mass high templars being able to counter mass BCs
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#750
From the whiney comments I'm reading here on this last page, I take it some PvZ was played. Suddenly, I'm not interested in reading the LR thread, Liquipedia here I come!
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#751
On October 14 2012 15:41 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


Calm down man. Top 8 are 6 Toss and 2 Zerg. Do you seriously complain that we dont get 7 Toss, 1 Zerg?

the 2 zerg there were the only two good zerg coming into WCS asia anyway, while three good tosses have fallen ;p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 14 2012 06:42 GMT
#752
On October 14 2012 15:41 ElephantBaby wrote:
Rain got a lucky path to top 6 though, didn't play any Korean players so far.


yeah that's kind of BS and I feel bad for Seed and Squirtle, their run was much much harder.

great for rain though ^_^
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 06:43:51
October 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#753
On October 14 2012 15:42 YiSunsin wrote:
Can somebody tell me something about that trailer after WoL ? Looked like story was from Warcraft3 neutral campaign to me ?

Wasn't that a commercial for World of Warcraft: Mist of Pandaria?
EZ4ENCE
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
October 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#754
He got the message guys.
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#755
On October 14 2012 15:41 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


Calm down man. Top 8 are 6 Toss and 2 Zerg. Do you seriously complain that we dont get 7 Toss, 1 Zerg?

The less PvZ I see in a tourney, the better.
PvP at least has tons of micro involved
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
October 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#756
ha, looks like Artosis let him know.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#757
well at least he's apologizing for his ignorance
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
October 14 2012 06:44 GMT
#758
On October 14 2012 15:42 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:41 Fenrax wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


Calm down man. Top 8 are 6 Toss and 2 Zerg. Do you seriously complain that we dont get 7 Toss, 1 Zerg?

the 2 zerg there were the only two good zerg coming into WCS asia anyway, while three good tosses have fallen ;p


Because all the other Zergs got knocked out by Protoss in Korean WCS?
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
October 14 2012 06:44 GMT
#759
Ultralisk charge ... such a funny idea.
Fut am Bam
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 14 2012 06:44 GMT
#760
On October 14 2012 15:42 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 15:41 Fenrax wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:40 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:30 Lysanias wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:26 eleaf wrote:
On October 14 2012 15:24 Ksquared wrote:
I don't think anyone actually likes infestors


I bet some zerg players who rely it to steal their money from much better players in tournament dont think so.


Don't be a sore loser, without infestors zerg can never be cost efficient. It's a needed unit, though they way it's made is rather questionable, but then again so are many more units in WoL.


So zerg needs cost efficiency despite in the same time it has the most easy and efficient macro mechanism. OK you can have the most drone at first and have largest minerals/gas income than any other two races and now you have to have some 'cost efficiency' in the production. Please tell me so in the theorycraft how could a Terran/Protoss be not loser.


Calm down man. Top 8 are 6 Toss and 2 Zerg. Do you seriously complain that we dont get 7 Toss, 1 Zerg?

the 2 zerg there were the only two good zerg coming into WCS asia anyway, while three good tosses have fallen ;p


Coming through the loser bracket. After losing to Toss.
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