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No balance whine
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
September 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#641
Oh god, mutas ... im still crying inside from my last game on the ladder vs mutas where i just played so poorly lol.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#642
I love how Leenock get burrow every single game, even when he goes muta/ling. Really gotta start doing it myself.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#643
sick queen surround
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#644
Sick spire snipe
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 27 2012 10:35 GMT
#645
On September 27 2012 19:30 kaokentake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:27 MangoMountain wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:25 rtsAlaran wrote:
I somehow get the impression that Roaches are pretty cost effective units... especially with burrow vs such a late robo


Roaches are like absolute opposite of cost effectiveness. You need a massive amount of them to even break even in most cases. But with a well timed attack you can basically overrun a protoss who's not prepared properly.

Or a protoss who's way behind from a failed cannon rush


roaches are the most cost effective unit in the game, but probably the worst food effective

cost being minerals/gas

roaches at 75/25 basically kill a stalker at 125/50 but due to less range 50 stalkers kill 50 roaches due to range mechanics

4 roaches at 300/100 beat a 250/100 immortals as well, but are twice the food

but roaches have other things making them weak in both matchups either tanks or forcefields/collossi/immortals cause roaches to be dealt with by both races


Tanks are not even the main problem for roaches against terran, as you can drop. It's medivacs that kill the slow attacks of roaches vs bio.

Also as stated roaches are supply ineffective as hell, the bigger supply your opponent has the worse it is for a 200 max roach army.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 27 2012 10:36 GMT
#646
leenock already on 5 bases after 11 minutes, but nice snipe

go hero
bisu
billywayne
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil109 Posts
September 27 2012 10:36 GMT
#647
GO HERO
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
September 27 2012 10:36 GMT
#648
great move by hero, he may have just won the game because roach/lings upgrade will be so so so behind
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 10:36 GMT
#649
On September 27 2012 19:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
HerO vs Leenock
Game 2
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
HerO spawns in the bottom left
Leenock spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first from Leenock

2:45
Nexus first from HerO
Hatchery from Leenock
forge from HerO

3:30
gate before cannon from HerO
Leenock shows gas and then cancels it when the probe is chased out

4:00
3rd Hatch from Leenock
probe for HerO scouts the 3rd

6:00
+1 attack started for HerO
robo from HerO

7:00
Roach warren from Leenock
Lair from Leenock
Ling speed

8:00
Warp prism from HerO
+1 finishes for HerO
Hero up to 4 gates
+1 armor started for HerO
Lair finishes for Leenock
macro hatch started for Leenock

9:00
roach speed and burrow for Leenock
Immortal production started
Twilight council for HerO
spire from Leenock
3rd base for HerO

10:00
zealot drop in the main of Leenock is deflected by queens
blink started for HerO
nice zealot drop micro traps a queen and kills it
HerO scouts the spire

11:00
+2 started for HerO
4th base for Leenock
spire finishes for Leenock
12 mutas stared for Leenock
Zealot drop at the spire from HerO
HerO targets downt he spire
roach burrowed movement started
Mutas kill the warp prism
double evo from Leenock

12:00
cannons up at all of HerO's bases to deflect muta harass

13:00
infestation pit started for Leenock
+1 melee and +1 range attack started for Leenock
5th base finishes for Leenock
Templar archives on the way from HerO
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 27 2012 10:37 GMT
#650
HerO will still be too late to stop the hive tech.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 27 2012 10:37 GMT
#651
On September 27 2012 19:35 DJHelium wrote:
I love how Leenock get burrow every single game, even when he goes muta/ling. Really gotta start doing it myself.

I've always felt that burrow should be as standard as speedling upgrade.
rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
September 27 2012 10:37 GMT
#652
On September 27 2012 19:33 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 19:30 kaokentake wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:27 MangoMountain wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 27 2012 19:25 rtsAlaran wrote:
I somehow get the impression that Roaches are pretty cost effective units... especially with burrow vs such a late robo


Roaches are like absolute opposite of cost effectiveness. You need a massive amount of them to even break even in most cases. But with a well timed attack you can basically overrun a protoss who's not prepared properly.

Or a protoss who's way behind from a failed cannon rush


roaches are the most cost effective unit in the game, but probably the worst food effective

cost being minerals/gas

roaches at 75/25 basically kill a stalker at 125/50 but due to less range 50 stalkers kill 50 roaches due to range mechanics

4 roaches at 300/100 beat a 250/100 immortals as well, but are twice the food

but roaches have other things making them weak in both matchups either tanks or forcefields/collossi/immortals cause roaches to be dealt with by both races

But you cannot just compare x unit to y unit. You need to see how they work in game. Roaches get worse and worse the more you got compared to most units unless you can swarm your opponent.


And that is excatly the point I was going for... at this stage in the game Leenock's roaches just outpowered the 3/4 unit composition from HerO pretty effective. This game looks totally different

anyway.. no place for balance talk...
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
September 27 2012 10:37 GMT
#653
Hero, the Morphling Protoss
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 27 2012 10:37 GMT
#654
Leenock, bringing a drone for the manner hatch in case of.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#655
On September 27 2012 19:35 DJHelium wrote:
I love how Leenock get burrow every single game, even when he goes muta/ling. Really gotta start doing it myself.


I was hoping Leenock would convince every zerg player in the world to get burrow every game, but it appears that people still slack off on getting it :<
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#656
Close your eyes, hide your children. :p
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
September 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#657
Did leenock just make 12 infestors at once?
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
September 27 2012 10:38 GMT
#658
what 33 probes with that flock of mutas, that is huge
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States476 Posts
September 27 2012 10:39 GMT
#659
I never know what to do in this situation...sentries/templar are just so slow. you can never move out until you have storm basically.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
September 27 2012 10:40 GMT
#660
Leenock only getting attack upgrades. I like that.
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