EPT[Code S] Ro16 Group B: 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 32
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
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-YoricK-
United States477 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:26 Fragile51 wrote: Roaches are like absolute opposite of cost effectiveness. You need a massive amount of them to even break even in most cases. But with a well timed attack you can basically overrun a protoss who's not prepared properly. For 75 minerals and 25 gas, coupled with the damage they do and their health roaches are absurdly cost efficient. They just cost a lot of supply. Like Leenock could lose that whole army and easily remax since roaches are so cheap. | ||
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InDesconrowl
Togo311 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:27 ramon wrote: i'm already getting into this sad mood, feeling that hero might drop to code a again Hero will come back and win this 2-1. He was playing with a huge disadvantage last game. | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
Perhaps I did not know HerO's PvZ as well as I thought I did. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:  HerO vs  Leenock Game 2 Map: Cloud Kingdom 0:00 HerO spawns in the bottom left Leenock spawns in the top right2:00 pool first from Leenock 2:45 Nexus first from HerO Hatchery from Leenock forge from HerO | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:27 X3GoldDot wrote: roaches are cost efficient, 1 of them can almost go 1 on 1 with even microed stalkers with roach speed, and 2 of them is only 25 minerals more than a stalker, but they are incredibly supply ineffective and have fairly low range which makes them worse and worse the more you get They are only cost efficient in a vacuum. The more you get the less cost efficient they get, that's what i was going for. Yes stalkers lose to 2 roaches when left alone but with micro and forcefields the battle isn't even close. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
*leenock places hatch in both games* | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:27 X3GoldDot wrote: roaches are cost efficient, 1 of them can almost go 1 on 1 with even microed stalkers with roach speed, and 2 of them is only 25 minerals more than a stalker, but they are incredibly supply ineffective and have fairly low range which makes them worse and worse the more you get They get worse and worse the higher your opponents supply is (while you've been maxed for a while, due to going roaches). The more you have is just better, that's the reason the Stephano 200/200 max out is so powerful! But I get your point  | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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kaokentake
383 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:27 MangoMountain wrote: Or a protoss who's way behind from a failed cannon rush roaches are the most cost effective unit in the game, but probably the worst food effective cost being minerals/gas roaches at 75/25 basically kill a stalker at 125/50 but due to less range 50 stalkers kill 50 roaches due to range mechanics 4 roaches at 300/100 beat a 250/100 immortals as well, but are twice the food but roaches have other things making them weak in both matchups either tanks or forcefields/collossi/immortals cause roaches to be dealt with by both races | ||
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INNI
Sweden249 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:29 Shellshock1122 wrote: 2:00 pool first from Leenock 2:45 Nexus first from HerO Hatchery from Leenock forge from HerO 3:30 gate before cannon from HerO Leenock shows gas and then cancels it when the probe is chased out 4:00 3rd Hatch from Leenock probe for HerO scouts the 3rd 6:00 +1 attack started for HerO robo from HerO 7:00 Roach warren from Leenock Lair from Leenock Ling speed | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
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aznball123
2759 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 27 2012 19:30 kaokentake wrote: roaches are the most cost effective unit in the game, but probably the worst food effective cost being minerals/gas roaches at 75/25 basically kill a stalker at 125/50 but due to less range 50 stalkers kill 50 roaches due to range mechanics 4 roaches at 300/100 beat a 250/100 immortals as well, but are twice the food but roaches have other things making them weak in both matchups either tanks or forcefields/collossi/immortals cause roaches to be dealt with by both races But you cannot just compare x unit to y unit. You need to see how they work in game. Roaches get worse and worse the more you got compared to most units unless you can swarm your opponent. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
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