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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
September 18 2012 12:09 GMT
#1321
Utterly unsurprising. Honestly not been very impressed by Jaedong's play in the GSL. With practice he'll have a decent shot at fighting his way back into Code A but I've honestly felt all along the Code S seeds for Kespa should have been Rain and RorO. This whole "ace match worth more" thing is nonsense, RorO has shown far better play.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
September 18 2012 12:09 GMT
#1322
not really a fan of this kind of music, but shear is good
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 12:12:08
September 18 2012 12:10 GMT
#1323
On September 18 2012 21:02 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 20:58 WArped wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:55 HowardRoark wrote:
Force Fields is really boring for us spectators. Hopefully it will be removed in HotS so that PvZ will be decent fun.

Force fields being removed would be silly, toss would die 100% of the time against roaches when they fight, surrounded into gg.

Yeah, I don't get it.

People complain about everything. Sentries are an important part of Protoss and vP micro.
I thought we don't want A-move units only (warhounds).


Because Forcefield denies micro, just like fungal, it has the same effect as an a-move unit, since it reduces the amount of micro in the game by preventing your opponent of microing - even if the ability itself takes a bit more skill to use than Fungal.

Also, Saying stuff like "Protoss would die without FF" is also stupid since a removal of forcefield in HotS wouldn't obviously come alone, there would be a buff or another ability coming with it to make up for the loss of this spell. There has been multiple posts explaining why because of Forcefield/Warpgate gateway units can't do anything but suck, because otherwise Protoss would instantly become completely OP.

Which leads to the current state of protoss, kinda balanced, but all their matchups are boring and stupid as fuck to watch/play. Too bad Blizz' ego is too big to come back on those mechanics in HotS.
Romanes eunt domus
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 12:11:55
September 18 2012 12:11 GMT
#1324
On September 18 2012 20:58 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 20:56 Dosey wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:55 LimitSEA wrote:
I love Jaedong, but I've been waiting for Finale to break out since his performances in GSTL and IPLTAC.

2x Sentry immo all in qualifies as a "breaking out"? o_O


Beat Jaedong first with that build please. I'm hating how much people are hating on finale, just cause he beat JD. As much as I love JD, he's just a worse player than finale. All there is to it.

I'm not hating on Finale for beating JD. JD looked horrible and made terrible decisions. I'm just saying that Finale didn't look too stellar either, at least when we first saw this from Seed last season (and his 8gate +3) it looked STRONG. This just looked poorly executed and he got lucky that he was facing an inexperienced player.
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 12:12:26
September 18 2012 12:12 GMT
#1325
that was depressing to watch. I wonder if Jaedong will ever get to Code S (again)?

Gogo Grubby.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#1326
On September 18 2012 21:05 Sadness wrote:
JD hasn't been JD in years guys. I doubt he will ever be back.


Your name is pretty fitting :p
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 18 2012 12:14 GMT
#1327
oh you have got to be fucking kidding me.... all kinds of lesser Kespa players winning lately and my precious Jaedong can't even stay in the gsl ><?!

fuck nothing goes my way lately, lol...
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
September 18 2012 12:16 GMT
#1328
Jaedong has been inconsistent anyway, why is everyone surprised ?

He prolly knows he is still behind, let alone be comfortable with the game where he can 'express' himself.

Give him time, he will ez be top tier.
*burp*
Rexeus
Profile Joined October 2011
78 Posts
September 18 2012 12:20 GMT
#1329
The games today proves that Roro should get the code S seed instead of JD.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 12:20:56
September 18 2012 12:20 GMT
#1330
--- Nuked ---
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
September 18 2012 12:21 GMT
#1331
how did roro play?
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
September 18 2012 12:31 GMT
#1332
On September 18 2012 21:20 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 21:10 BobMcJohnson wrote:
On September 18 2012 21:02 00Visor wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:58 WArped wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:55 HowardRoark wrote:
Force Fields is really boring for us spectators. Hopefully it will be removed in HotS so that PvZ will be decent fun.

Force fields being removed would be silly, toss would die 100% of the time against roaches when they fight, surrounded into gg.

Yeah, I don't get it.

People complain about everything. Sentries are an important part of Protoss and vP micro.
I thought we don't want A-move units only (warhounds).


Because Forcefield denies micro, just like fungal, it has the same effect as an a-move unit, since it reduces the amount of micro in the game by preventing your opponent of microing - even if the ability itself takes a bit more skill to use than Fungal.

Also, Saying stuff like "Protoss would die without FF" is also stupid since a removal of forcefield in HotS wouldn't obviously come alone, there would be a buff or another ability coming with it to make up for the loss of this spell. There has been multiple posts explaining why because of Forcefield/Warpgate gateway units can't do anything but suck, because otherwise Protoss would instantly become completely OP.

Which leads to the current state of protoss, kinda balanced, but all their matchups are boring and stupid as fuck to watch/play. Too bad Blizz' ego is too big to come back on those mechanics in HotS.

That's just, like, your opinion. I personally love watching the Protoss match-ups.

And as long as it is balanced, I don't see a problem.


Statistical balance does not imply good games. Browder and co. need to get that off their heads.

It's not if its balanced, but how it is balanced. Remove an ability that denies micro to our opponent? Compensate with abilities that make use of better micro on your side.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 18 2012 12:34 GMT
#1333
On September 18 2012 21:21 ydeer1993 wrote:
how did roro play?

He played solid. He didnt look amazing or anything but Ace was kind of just floundering around and got outplayed and died
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UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
September 18 2012 12:57 GMT
#1334
On September 18 2012 21:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 21:21 ydeer1993 wrote:
how did roro play?

He played solid. He didnt look amazing or anything but Ace was kind of just floundering around and got outplayed and died

Pretty much this. Roro did some nice splits of roach/ling pressure onto Ace's natural and third and Ace just couldn't handle it.
Gogo Grubby.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 18 2012 13:09 GMT
#1335
NOooooooooo FIRST WTF

Dammit, I don't care about JD, why Fiiirsst?!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
FeltFace
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia577 Posts
September 18 2012 13:13 GMT
#1336
(Z)Jaedong practice with (P)HerO more please
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
September 18 2012 13:31 GMT
#1337
On September 18 2012 22:09 MCDayC wrote:
NOooooooooo FIRST WTF

Dammit, I don't care about JD, why Fiiirsst?!


So much this, I loved watching First destroy people in foreign tournaments. I missed the games, can anyone summarize what happened in that series?
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 13:37:30
September 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#1338
On September 18 2012 22:31 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 22:09 MCDayC wrote:
NOooooooooo FIRST WTF

Dammit, I don't care about JD, why Fiiirsst?!


So much this, I loved watching First destroy people in foreign tournaments. I missed the games, can anyone summarize what happened in that series?

There are live reports in the OP.

Game 1: First lost to marines. Marine poke killed about 11 probes at nat then later on more marines stimmed up ramp and killed first. Didn't actually see this game but assume first failed with his forcefields

Game 3: First got 1/1/1'd. First defended really well on 2 base but there was a couple of banshees left over and he just couldnt gather enough stalkers to defeat them especially with PDD's being dropped by a raven. Was quite depressing to watch.
Gogo Grubby.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
September 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#1339
Oh JD... I still believe...

Heart of a champion!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 18 2012 14:10 GMT
#1340
On September 18 2012 21:10 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 21:02 00Visor wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:58 WArped wrote:
On September 18 2012 20:55 HowardRoark wrote:
Force Fields is really boring for us spectators. Hopefully it will be removed in HotS so that PvZ will be decent fun.

Force fields being removed would be silly, toss would die 100% of the time against roaches when they fight, surrounded into gg.

Yeah, I don't get it.

People complain about everything. Sentries are an important part of Protoss and vP micro.
I thought we don't want A-move units only (warhounds).


Because Forcefield denies micro, just like fungal, it has the same effect as an a-move unit, since it reduces the amount of micro in the game by preventing your opponent of microing - even if the ability itself takes a bit more skill to use than Fungal.

Also, Saying stuff like "Protoss would die without FF" is also stupid since a removal of forcefield in HotS wouldn't obviously come alone, there would be a buff or another ability coming with it to make up for the loss of this spell. There has been multiple posts explaining why because of Forcefield/Warpgate gateway units can't do anything but suck, because otherwise Protoss would instantly become completely OP.

Which leads to the current state of protoss, kinda balanced, but all their matchups are boring and stupid as fuck to watch/play. Too bad Blizz' ego is too big to come back on those mechanics in HotS.


Force field does not deny micro, it requires good micro from opponent both before and after FF get placed. Fungal only require micro before cast, and the ability to chain fungal put it on a different level.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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