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On September 18 2012 21:00 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:58 glzElectromaster wrote:On September 18 2012 20:56 Dosey wrote:On September 18 2012 20:55 LimitSEA wrote:
I love Jaedong, but I've been waiting for Finale to break out since his performances in GSTL and IPLTAC. 2x Sentry immo all in qualifies as a "breaking out"? o_O Beat Jaedong first with that build please. I'm hating how much people are hating on finale, just cause he beat JD. As much as I love JD, he's just a worse player than finale. All there is to it. JD loves to make roach/ling and stay on it for a long time. Finale decides to hardcounter that with two immortal sentry all ins. People are just mad because finale is relatively unknown and jaedong is a legend that people want to see do well. If you swapped out jaedong with horror and finale with bisu i can guarantee you that people would be praising bisu's smart build choice and solid execution :p
I totally agree. Thus I'm hating on the ignorance lol. But I guess you really can't fight fanboyism with logic...I'm one myself
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On September 18 2012 21:01 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:58 Redox wrote:On September 18 2012 20:54 X3GoldDot wrote:
jaedong never deserved his code S seed imho, maybe code A, but roro deserved it more JD qualified for his code S seed by beating fellow Kespa players. He didnt get it for his name. Because it disregarded win/loss RATIO. He racked up ace match wins, and he had NINE loses.
yea I thought that was kind of weird. Roro would have been a better code s seed, but oh well. too late to do anything about it now.
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On September 18 2012 20:57 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:54 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
As sad as i am to see some random protoss advancing vs jd it should be said that jd really isnt playing good, well he was on a decline in bw for a longer time now and he seems to "not get" sc2 [transation]When a BW-pro wins, it's because they are BW players. When they lose, they were already on the decline[/translation]
u probably shouldnt work as a translator with your comprehension skills 
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On September 18 2012 20:58 Quarz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:56 s3rp wrote:
Jaedong isn't that good in Sc2 (yet) . Only reason he was seeded into Code S was reputation and not results. There are great Kespa Sc2 players but JD is not among them ( yet ). Wrong he was seeded because of his perfomance in the pro league get your facts straight.
Did you actually look at his Pro-League stats ? Yeah he had alot of wins but also a buttload of losses.
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On September 18 2012 21:01 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:58 Redox wrote:On September 18 2012 20:54 X3GoldDot wrote:
jaedong never deserved his code S seed imho, maybe code A, but roro deserved it more JD qualified for his code S seed by beating fellow Kespa players. He didnt get it for his name. Because it disregarded win/loss RATIO. He racked up ace match wins, and he had NINE loses.
Gom didn't make the ranking system for proleague, blame kespa for that one.
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On September 18 2012 20:56 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:55 LimitSEA wrote:
I love Jaedong, but I've been waiting for Finale to break out since his performances in GSTL and IPLTAC. 2x Sentry immo all in qualifies as a "breaking out"? o_O
squirtle broke out doing 2 base collo all ins.
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On September 18 2012 21:01 Pvvned wrote:
It's difficult being Jaedong fan for the past couple of years
Yup, even in BW he was on the downside. I feel like he's approaching the stage where Boxer and other legends like Nada and July were nothing more than mid-level players.
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JD
I'm really sad, not because he lost, but because he really didn't seem very good there.
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On September 18 2012 21:02 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:58 Quarz wrote:On September 18 2012 20:56 s3rp wrote:
Jaedong isn't that good in Sc2 (yet) . Only reason he was seeded into Code S was reputation and not results. There are great Kespa Sc2 players but JD is not among them ( yet ). Wrong he was seeded because of his perfomance in the pro league get your facts straight. Did you actually look at his Pro-League stats ? Yeah he had alot of wins but also a buttload of losses.
But most of his wins were ace matches which count heavier then regular wins. That's why he was ranked 2nd.
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On September 18 2012 20:56 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:55 LimitSEA wrote:
I love Jaedong, but I've been waiting for Finale to break out since his performances in GSTL and IPLTAC. 2x Sentry immo all in qualifies as a "breaking out"? o_O
I don't see why people keep saying the second game was a sentry immortal all in. If it was an all in and he didn't kill the third (or at least I didn't notice it in the LR), then how did he end up winning by taking a third? It seems like that's just a pressure to force and kill units from JD and safely take his third to tech up to colossus. But it seems people don't want to give finale any credit...
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On September 18 2012 21:03 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 21:01 bgx wrote:On September 18 2012 20:58 Redox wrote:On September 18 2012 20:54 X3GoldDot wrote:
jaedong never deserved his code S seed imho, maybe code A, but roro deserved it more JD qualified for his code S seed by beating fellow Kespa players. He didnt get it for his name. Because it disregarded win/loss RATIO. He racked up ace match wins, and he had NINE loses. Gom didn't make the ranking system for proleague, blame kespa for that one.
I don't think anyone blames GOM . But in hindsight JD was seeding was not really deserved considering how strong some of the other Kespa players looked.
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On September 18 2012 20:59 haka wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:57 Kasaraki wrote:
Meh, I don't hate or love him, but he deserved to fall out. He doesn't play as well as other Kespa players. *shrugs* That code S seed was very weird. What's so weird about it? Seeds are based on PL performance. JD and Rain were the top two; JD single-handedly leading to Team8's crazy win streak.
Yeah I'm not one of the people saying he got invited for his "name", I know the reason him and rain got invited. Maybe it's just that I don't like Code S seeds in general. :p
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On September 18 2012 21:03 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 21:02 s3rp wrote:On September 18 2012 20:58 Quarz wrote:On September 18 2012 20:56 s3rp wrote:
Jaedong isn't that good in Sc2 (yet) . Only ReasoN he was seeded Into Code S was reputation and not results. There are Great Kespa Sc2 players but JD is not among them ( yet ). Wrong he was seeded because of his perfomance in the PrO league get your facts straight. Did you Actually look at his Pro-League Stats ? Yeah he had alot of wins but also a buttload of losses. But most of his wins were ACE matches Which count heavier then regular wins. That'S why he was ranked 2nd.
We know what to do, it's what we do best!
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On September 18 2012 21:01 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 20:58 Gevna wrote:On September 18 2012 20:55 Yagami wrote:
Ouch that was painful to watch
Finale just became the number 1 hated player on TL :D No, to me he is just confirming that all his results in teamleague are no joke. And btw, what's the point with all the forcefield's whine ? We are back in 2010 ? Yes! Because there were still no changes and they are hurting this game by preventing micro. Like Fungel, but I guess no one will listen and the mods will simply warn me -.-
This is still not a good reason to whine in LR threads. Moreover, forcefields have been figured out a long time ago, they prevent a player from microing if he got caught, but actually I think they force micro since zergs have to flank, bait forcefields, drop on sentries or whatever the counter you chose.
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I still give a leg up for JD compared to the other Kespa players played today. JD needs some more time to practice. I have a feeling that he will shoot up once he develops his 6th sense.
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JD hasn't been JD in years guys. I doubt he will ever be back.
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Jaedong has lost his mojo 1 year or so ago. Need to get it back from Dr. Evil.
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To clarify im happy JD got beat up, he needs to rethink his way of playing SC2, you can't happily copy Stephano, add some counter attack and DO THE SAME THING always.
Smart move by finale, Jaedong needs some beating, those type of players play better after some loses because that way they learn. Earning miracoulous wins just gives a fake "fine" feeling. Im torn, i dont want to so mediocre JD i want to see 2008/2009 JD back.
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On September 18 2012 21:03 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 21:01 bgx wrote:On September 18 2012 20:58 Redox wrote:On September 18 2012 20:54 X3GoldDot wrote:
jaedong never deserved his code S seed imho, maybe code A, but roro deserved it more JD qualified for his code S seed by beating fellow Kespa players. He didnt get it for his name. Because it disregarded win/loss RATIO. He racked up ace match wins, and he had NINE loses. Gom didn't make the ranking system for proleague, blame kespa for that one.
Im aware.
sorry for double post.
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