EPTThose games vs MC at IEM...
[Up/Down] Group D 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 11
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
Those games vs MC at IEM... | ||
|
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:44 pmp10 wrote: Why would tanks become more viable against protoss? If mech will work in TvP it will be all about the warhound. Well, if warhounds are good at tanking for the mech army, then tanks actually becomes very good. One of the problems with mech in TvP was that hellions weren't really good at tanking vs chargelots. Tanks are similiar to colossi and broodlords. Good siege units but they need support. | ||
|
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
"Thats the thing about Supernovas man! You dont know when they'll explode" | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
| ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
| ||
|
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote: I'm thankful the Kespa players are here now so we may some day not have to watch such bad play in the GSL I don't know about that. We had some bad BW games in OSLs as well (even before the last OSL when players were switching). E-sports is no different from other sports. You see awful soccer and basketball games from good teams as well. | ||
|
Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
| ||
|
Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
| ||
|
Infernal Knight
United States557 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:47 vthree wrote: Well, if warhounds are good at tanking for the mech army, then tanks actually becomes very good. One of the problems with mech in TvP was that hellions weren't really good at tanking vs chargelots. Tanks are similiar to colossi and broodlords. Good siege units but they need support. I think the Battle Hellion is more meant to fill the tanking role. Besides, I have the feeling that the Warhound is going to be overhauled considerably before HotS goes live. It's just got too ill-defined a role right now. | ||
opterown
Australia54783 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote: I'm thankful the Kespa players are here now so we may some day not have to watch such bad play in the GSL tbh a fair number of PL games are similarly bad haha | ||
|
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
"dude." | ||
|
SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:45 opterown wrote: OSL and the previous UnD were pretty bad games too tbh Yea but there was so much more hype surrounding them. Even if the actual matches themselves were a bit subpar, the players were for the most part top contenders. Except for Creator and maybe Nova, these are players people expect to lose ;\ | ||
|
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote: I'm thankful the Kespa players are here now so we may some day not have to watch such bad play in the GSL Kespa players are incapable of bad play? Cool =P Code A will always have bad play. Willing to bet on this. Much lower chance of really having 'great' play in the U/D when it's full of people that have lost =P | ||
|
00Visor
4337 Posts
Killer places a gateway at his own natural. Supernova goes CC first inbase. | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:52 bittman wrote: Kespa players are incapable of bad play? Cool =P Code A will always have bad play. Willing to bet on this. How can you really have 'great' play in the U/D when it's full of people that have lost =P the relative skill level of code a/updowns is going to get higher if we get more good players in here and replace the worse ones  | ||
|
pmp10
3239 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:47 vthree wrote: Well, if warhounds are good at tanking for the mech army, then tanks actually becomes very good. One of the problems with mech in TvP was that hellions weren't really good at tanking vs chargelots. Tanks are similiar to colossi and broodlords. Good siege units but they need support. The problem wasn't only the chargelots but also immortals. Thats the whole reason for warhound - it's supposed to be the mech counter leaving no need for ghosts. The obvious issue is that if warhound fights immortals cost-efficiently then chances are it will be so good it will trade better than tanks with everything else. | ||
|
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:53 Dodgin wrote: the relative skill level of code a/updowns is going to get higher if we get more good players in here and replace the worse ones But they'll still be worse than the top 30-ish overall. Thus they won't be as "good" =3 | ||
|
Jtom
Ireland1044 Posts
| ||
|
architecture
United States643 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:47 vthree wrote: Well, if warhounds are good at tanking for the mech army, then tanks actually becomes very good. One of the problems with mech in TvP was that hellions weren't really good at tanking vs chargelots. Tanks are similiar to colossi and broodlords. Good siege units but they need support. Tanks still might not have the right stats to be useful. If you look at the current stats of the warhound, that's how big the bandaid is for this matchup. It's a 2 food unit with like 215/225 HP! The thing with tanks and bio in TvZ is that the similarly low HP of the vast majority of the Z army means that they can trade fairly evenly. Even if your bio/tanks gets coated with fungals and banes, they can output enough DPS before they die such that it will be even. Point is that tanks are balanced against essentially one shotting low HP zerg units at range. You can kinda see how this doesn't hold true against late game P. What would tanks be good at trading against vs P? Practically everything is better handled by WH and BH. | ||
|
ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On August 30 2012 18:45 opterown wrote: OSL and the previous UnD were pretty bad games too tbh no where near the code-a-ness of WCS though | ||
| ||
