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On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success
He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for?
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On August 25 2012 05:52 jammedk wrote:
So... is WCS NA over for today?
Nope, just less games scattered between MLG games
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will there be a third bracket to separate 7th-10th?
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EG getting stomped, love it.
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On August 25 2012 05:54 jaxjaguars wrote:
Semi-unrelated question, why is the European championship so much later than the NA one? I mean the final countries finished in July, I'm just wondering. Unless they're doing it in conjunction with another tourney like Dreamhack or something, idk.
Save the best for last :>
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On August 25 2012 05:53 legaton wrote:
And people don't get the difference between "too much" money and "no money at all"... keep fighting straw men while you cope with bad games and worst players.
Again ignorance. Who are you to determine what "too much money" equals in the SC2 scene? Are you trying to become a professional player and suffering from financial difficulty or are you just another arrogant fan on the sidelines stuffing your face with cheetos? I think the latter is more likely.
Going around bitching and moaning to anyone in any occupation that said person is making too much money when it's not your money and has nothing to do with you would earn you a justified punch in your face. Maybe you should go try it sometime. . . .I mean, walk into a business and start crying: "waaa you all earn to much money waaa europeans deserve more than you waaa" and see what happens.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for?
It's settled then, ship all the $$$ to Korea.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for?
Feelings are very important.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for?
if the tourney is developmental, the people can argue that the weaker scenes should even get "more" money than the stronger scenes...
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On August 25 2012 05:50 mycro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. High prizepool isn't just for rewarding skill it's also PR for the young gamers that are wondering if it's worth laying down the time needed to become really good. Thanks to these (and hopefully other) high prizepools we could see an upsurge in talented players from NA, which would only benefit the SC scene as a whole.
Must be an evidence of incapacity for the NA "pros" to see that this money is used for PR instead of rewarding their skill.
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On August 25 2012 05:57 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:53 legaton wrote:
And people don't get the difference between "too much" money and "no money at all"... keep fighting straw men while you cope with bad games and worst players. Again ignorance. Who are you to determine what "too much money" equals in the SC2 scene? Are you trying to become a professional player or just another arrogant fan on the sidelines stuffing your face with cheetos? I think the latter is more likely. Going around bitching and moaning to anyone in any occupation that said person is making too much money when it's not your money and has nothing to do with you would earn you a justified punch in your face. Maybe you should go try it sometime. . . .I mean, walk into a business and start crying: "waaa you all earn to much money waaa" and see what happens.
why feed him?
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On August 25 2012 05:57 theMiNUS wrote:
will there be a third bracket to separate 7th-10th?
Seeing as the two people who already have seeds are in the top 7 it will be the top 9 getting seeds. I assume they will have a separate bracket of the 9th-12th place people to determine the last seed.
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On August 25 2012 05:58 theMiNUS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for? if the tourney is developmental, the people can argue that the weaker scenes should even get "more" money than the stronger scenes...
So why didn't Blizzard pump money into Oceania?
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On August 25 2012 05:58 jaxjaguars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:57 SCST wrote:On August 25 2012 05:53 legaton wrote:
And people don't get the difference between "too much" money and "no money at all"... keep fighting straw men while you cope with bad games and worst players. Again ignorance. Who are you to determine what "too much money" equals in the SC2 scene? Are you trying to become a professional player or just another arrogant fan on the sidelines stuffing your face with cheetos? I think the latter is more likely. Going around bitching and moaning to anyone in any occupation that said person is making too much money when it's not your money and has nothing to do with you would earn you a justified punch in your face. Maybe you should go try it sometime. . . .I mean, walk into a business and start crying: "waaa you all earn to much money waaa" and see what happens. why feed him?
I honestly don't think he's a troll, just oblivious.
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On August 25 2012 05:59 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:58 jaxjaguars wrote:On August 25 2012 05:57 SCST wrote:On August 25 2012 05:53 legaton wrote:
And people don't get the difference between "too much" money and "no money at all"... keep fighting straw men while you cope with bad games and worst players. Again ignorance. Who are you to determine what "too much money" equals in the SC2 scene? Are you trying to become a professional player or just another arrogant fan on the sidelines stuffing your face with cheetos? I think the latter is more likely. Going around bitching and moaning to anyone in any occupation that said person is making too much money when it's not your money and has nothing to do with you would earn you a justified punch in your face. Maybe you should go try it sometime. . . .I mean, walk into a business and start crying: "waaa you all earn to much money waaa" and see what happens. why feed him? I honestly don't think he's a troll, just oblivious.
Agreed, only the 6 posts guy is.
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On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for?
Who cares how they feel? This is business, it isn't meant to be nice for everyone.
All these European players should be happy that NA players get some money from somewhere, because it increases the overall market for everyone, including them.
Ask yourself if Stephano would've been as known without IPL, NASL and MLG.
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Anyone else having massive stream issues? I'm on mlg premium and i literally can't watch any stream for longer then 5 seconds before it just comes to a complete stop and i need to press pause and play again.
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On August 25 2012 06:04 Fragile51 wrote:
Anyone else having massive stream issues? I'm on mlg premium and i literally can't watch any stream for longer then 5 seconds before it just comes to a complete stop and i need to press pause and play again.
Probably too many people connecting at once, chill for a min and try again? :3
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On August 25 2012 06:00 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2012 05:56 -_- wrote:On August 25 2012 05:51 Benjamin99 wrote:On August 25 2012 05:48 legaton wrote:On August 25 2012 05:42 Redox wrote:On August 25 2012 05:40 O Fortuna PLS wrote:On August 25 2012 05:38 Gamegene wrote:On August 25 2012 05:35 O Fortuna PLS wrote:
HuK really good player... oh wait.
Btw this prizemoney is a joke or? I mean so much money for such a weak continent... no one of these players (maybe Scarlett) would have a chance against europeans or koreans. Wasted money one more time. lol quit your bitching. more money for players is better than having less and having shitty posts complaining about how little this or that country gets. So wasting money to shitty skill is better? I mean I could also take the money and wipe my ass with it, the result would be the same. Holy crap... I just dont understand why bad skill gets rewarded with so much money. I hope you get banned. Why? It's a fair comment. The skill level is low: bad unit control and positioning, mediocre macro, average map control for most players, horrible engagements and the least goes on. All the money poured into the NA scene has achieved nothing. The NA scene is not competitive at all. For a long time, people said that money was needed to nurture a new good players as they had to make a living. I'm starting to think the contrary. Too much money is subsidizing bad players that would get purged on a more competitive market (and it's not that bad, life goes on and they will go to the uni again). You need to invest in a scene to make it better. I cant believe some people actually think they shouldn't get payed. The main point of WCS is finding and supporting new players around there world. Its a great concept and I hope it gets a lot of success He's being blunt, but how do you think players in Europe feel when they're competing for the same prize pool a group of players hugely less qualified are playing for? Who cares how they feel? This is business, it isn't meant to be nice for everyone. All these European players should be happy that NA players get some money from somewhere, because it increases the overall market for everyone, including them. Ask yourself if Stephano would've been as known without IPL, NASL and MLG.
Yeah... this is business. It's obvious with all the suits hanging around.
It's not like SC2 is a like a sport with competitors battling each other for supremacy, where the best player is awarded for his talent and fina... oh wait.
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