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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 22 2012 12:17 GMT
#1041
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.
One explanation is - as Khaldor mentioned - mindgames.

Open in a crazy fashion and use that image in the next games of the series.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
August 22 2012 12:17 GMT
#1042
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 12:18:16
August 22 2012 12:17 GMT
#1043
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


He already beat Hero in the winners bracket. Just a silly build hoping hero wouldn't scout I guess.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#1044
On August 22 2012 21:17 YyapSsap wrote:
Still to this day I dont understand why blizzard decided to cut the reaver in favor for the colossus..


too much clumping. the sacrabs will never hit anything on low lvl play. so no reaver cus diamond and below wont be able to use it
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#1045
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.

He might have also gone down the route of coca and happy by making a stupid opening build in game one of the series.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4512 Posts
August 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#1046
On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.

Dat constant supply blocks through out the game. Absolutely petrified of those elephant mechanics.
hi. big fan.
AceLight
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand220 Posts
August 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#1047
On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played

11 gate is way dif to 13 gate.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
August 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#1048
Go go Puzzle !
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 22 2012 12:19 GMT
#1049
On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.

I'm sure that's it. rofl.


On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.

At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 22 2012 12:20 GMT
#1050
On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played

That subtle 20 minute build order win
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 22 2012 12:20 GMT
#1051
On August 22 2012 21:20 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played

That subtle 20 minute build order win


Did you even watch the game probe? =p
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 12:22:54
August 22 2012 12:20 GMT
#1052
On August 22 2012 21:16 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

Some people don't scout in PvP, I'm not sure if Hero has or hasn't in his previous games but Puzzle may have had reason to believe that Hero wouldn't scout. If you get away with a Nexus first you would have a huge lead.




Thats still a pretty big risk, I havent seen many people who dont scout in PvP. But actually thats a pretty good point, yea maybe Puzzle was thinking that Hero wouldn't scout.
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
August 22 2012 12:20 GMT
#1053
On August 22 2012 21:19 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.

I'm sure that's it. rofl.


Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.

At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.


their tactical play and decision making is more impressive
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1054
To save time, the winner bracket semi finals should just be a 4 man FFA. Then we might even see Carriers and Motherships!
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1055
On August 22 2012 21:17 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


He already beat Hero in the winners bracket. Just a silly build hoping hero wouldn't scout I guess.


I cannot remember exactly what the scout timings were for Hero in the games they played earlier in general, nor the Cloud Kingdom one specifically, but if Puzzle spotted that he had a very, very late scout it is possible that he went Nexus first to punish a no-scout build.

But Nexus first is so risky - it almost feels like the ultimate cheese in PvP. Though I have seen it so seldom that I am not even sure how it needs to play out to get a substantial lead from it?
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4512 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1056
On August 22 2012 21:19 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.

I'm sure that's it. rofl.


Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.

He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.


The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.

At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.

From what we've seen thus far, definintely mechanics of the gods. Puzzle is just obviously scared.
hi. big fan.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1057
On August 22 2012 21:18 AceLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played

11 gate is way dif to 13 gate.


Normally, yes, since the whole point of 11 gate is that your warpgate will be faster than a standard opening. Against nexus first, that will always happen.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1058
On August 22 2012 21:20 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played

That subtle 20 minute build order win


The game was over after about 3 minutes...
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4512 Posts
August 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#1059
[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:20 Noc- wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:16 ZAiNs wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.

Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.

Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.[/QUOTE]
Some people don't scout in PvP, I'm not sure if Hero has or hasn't in his previous games but Puzzle may have had reason to believe that Hero wouldn't scout. If you get away with a Nexus first you would have a huge lead.

Thats still a pretty big risk, I havent seen many people who dont scout in PvP. But actually thats a pretty good point, yea maybe Puzzle was thinking that Hero wouldn't scout.[/QUOTE]
wat.
no scout in pvp is really common.
hi. big fan.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 22 2012 12:23 GMT
#1060
hero is gonna win. faster robo bay = win
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