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On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. One explanation is - as Khaldor mentioned - mindgames.
Open in a crazy fashion and use that image in the next games of the series.
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ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.
He already beat Hero in the winners bracket. Just a silly build hoping hero wouldn't scout I guess.
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On August 22 2012 21:17 YyapSsap wrote:
Still to this day I dont understand why blizzard decided to cut the reaver in favor for the colossus..
too much clumping. the sacrabs will never hit anything on low lvl play. so no reaver cus diamond and below wont be able to use it
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On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind.
He might have also gone down the route of coca and happy by making a stupid opening build in game one of the series.
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On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.
Dat constant supply blocks through out the game. Absolutely petrified of those elephant mechanics.
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On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played
11 gate is way dif to 13 gate.
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On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. I'm sure that's it. rofl.
On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it.
At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.
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On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played
That subtle 20 minute build order win 
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
On August 22 2012 21:20 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played That subtle 20 minute build order win
Did you even watch the game probe? =p
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On August 22 2012 21:16 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. Some people don't scout in PvP, I'm not sure if Hero has or hasn't in his previous games but Puzzle may have had reason to believe that Hero wouldn't scout. If you get away with a Nexus first you would have a huge lead.
Thats still a pretty big risk, I havent seen many people who dont scout in PvP. But actually thats a pretty good point, yea maybe Puzzle was thinking that Hero wouldn't scout.
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On August 22 2012 21:19 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. I'm sure that's it. rofl. Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it. At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.
their tactical play and decision making is more impressive
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
To save time, the winner bracket semi finals should just be a 4 man FFA. Then we might even see Carriers and Motherships!
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
On August 22 2012 21:17 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. He already beat Hero in the winners bracket. Just a silly build hoping hero wouldn't scout I guess.
I cannot remember exactly what the scout timings were for Hero in the games they played earlier in general, nor the Cloud Kingdom one specifically, but if Puzzle spotted that he had a very, very late scout it is possible that he went Nexus first to punish a no-scout build.
But Nexus first is so risky - it almost feels like the ultimate cheese in PvP. Though I have seen it so seldom that I am not even sure how it needs to play out to get a substantial lead from it?
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On August 22 2012 21:19 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 FataLe wrote:On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. I'm sure that's it. rofl. Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 DrPandaPhD wrote:On August 22 2012 21:16 Djagulingu wrote:On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn. He might have gotten scared of elephant mechanics and tried to get an advantage elsewhere. Only reason that comes to my mind. The 8 overlords at the same time mechanic. Oh yeah, better be scared of it. At least that's what GOM pros say: That KeSPA pros have monster mechanics.
From what we've seen thus far, definintely mechanics of the gods. Puzzle is just obviously scared.
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Italy12248 Posts
On August 22 2012 21:18 AceLight wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played 11 gate is way dif to 13 gate.
Normally, yes, since the whole point of 11 gate is that your warpgate will be faster than a standard opening. Against nexus first, that will always happen.
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On August 22 2012 21:20 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 21:17 ArchangelJada wrote:
ya BO win you made a nexus i made a gateway, like every pvp ever played That subtle 20 minute build order win
The game was over after about 3 minutes...
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[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:20 Noc- wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:16 ZAiNs wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2012 21:13 Noc- wrote:
So lets assume Puzzle wants to win this match.
Why the hell does he(anyone) go Nexus first in a PvP match, unless the opponent is a bronze? Theres no other reason than someone paid Puzzle to lose, because thats like suicide. Im so shocked that a PvP master like Puzzle does something like this.
Its only Bo3 Puzzle, cmon stop joking god damn.[/QUOTE]
Some people don't scout in PvP, I'm not sure if Hero has or hasn't in his previous games but Puzzle may have had reason to believe that Hero wouldn't scout. If you get away with a Nexus first you would have a huge lead.
Thats still a pretty big risk, I havent seen many people who dont scout in PvP. But actually thats a pretty good point, yea maybe Puzzle was thinking that Hero wouldn't scout.[/QUOTE]
wat.
no scout in pvp is really common.
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hero is gonna win. faster robo bay = win 
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