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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 18:28:54
August 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1201
Just make sure HerO's doesn't have bad feelings about it, I want him to crush MLG.
He always fears to disappoint his fans, even when there is absolutly no reason.
On August 23 2012 03:13 Jacmert wrote:
Wait, so did Taeja never participate in WCS Korea? I can't find his name in liquipedia.

He did not qualify, lost to random Protoss in the preliminaries, it was before he went godmode if I recall correctly.
Forget that, I was thinking of the OSL prelims. As Nazgul said, he was busy winning MLG.
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
August 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#1202
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


I thought as much...
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4558 Posts
August 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#1203
On August 23 2012 02:46 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:58 thegreatpiata wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:48 SHOOG wrote:
It must be horrible being a GSL player an knowin you spent so much time practicing only to get beat by people who have played a lot less than you!
Kespa is full of Stephanos?!


and no, quite the opposite... they just practice way more, in a more regimented manner
Someone find this man a sense of humour. He appears to have lost his!


clearly I must have, since it wasn't that funny

No it was. It's just your sense of humour ^^
hi. big fan.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 22 2012 18:54 GMT
#1204
On August 23 2012 03:41 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:46 ]343[ wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:58 thegreatpiata wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:48 SHOOG wrote:
It must be horrible being a GSL player an knowin you spent so much time practicing only to get beat by people who have played a lot less than you!
Kespa is full of Stephanos?!


and no, quite the opposite... they just practice way more, in a more regimented manner
Someone find this man a sense of humour. He appears to have lost his!


clearly I must have, since it wasn't that funny

No it was. It's just your sense of humour ^^


well damn

gg
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Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
August 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#1205
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


Sounds good. Sad to see Hero go though, he's the only player I was cheering for left in WCS, being a protoss and not knowing any of the Kespa guys (yet), I cheered for the Euro team guy with an international class haircut (what else is there ?), WCS just got rather pointless for me, got no one to get excited about for the rest of the tournament
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 22 2012 20:19 GMT
#1206
On August 23 2012 04:36 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


Sounds good. Sad to see Hero go though, he's the only player I was cheering for left in WCS, being a protoss and not knowing any of the Kespa guys (yet), I cheered for the Euro team guy with an international class haircut (what else is there ?), WCS just got rather pointless for me, got no one to get excited about for the rest of the tournament

uhh... you REALLY need to look at the bracket again then. As a fellow Protoss player I can assure you that there are plenty of Protoss to choose from. Squirtle, Parting, Creator, and the last GSL champion Seed are all in the final four of the winners bracket lol. This is THE protoss tournament to pick from dude
thedaks16
Profile Joined May 2011
United States34 Posts
August 22 2012 20:25 GMT
#1207
I'm a little confused, I get that Hero pulled out of WCS for above reasons, but he HAS secured his top 8 spot and a trip to ASIA Finals ...... right? Basically nothing lost besides potential higher placement and a few bucks?
We shall have peace... We shall have peace when you answer for the burning of the Westfold! When you answer for the children who lie dead on the plains! For the soldiers who were hewn even as they lay dead! We shall have peace when you hang from a gibbit"
dacimvrl
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State582 Posts
August 22 2012 20:33 GMT
#1208
Thanks for clearing that up Nazgul go go HerO and Taeja!! Cannot wait til MLG Summer!!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
August 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#1209
On August 23 2012 05:25 thedaks16 wrote:
I'm a little confused, I get that Hero pulled out of WCS for above reasons, but he HAS secured his top 8 spot and a trip to ASIA Finals ...... right? Basically nothing lost besides potential higher placement and a few bucks?

The tournament and fans lose a lot from players dropping out, so it is not something that should be done lightly.
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rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
August 22 2012 20:39 GMT
#1210
I know I would be very upset if I flew all the way to Korea to see HerO only to find out that he would be in the states. It'd be tough for me to understand at first, but I only would want HerO to do his best. hwaiting!!!
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 22 2012 20:58 GMT
#1211
I think Hero and Liquid made the best of a bad situation. He was able to secure his spot in WCS Asia, but also be able to visit his foreign fans at MLG which he is seeded into the groups. Obviously it sucks to forfeit the rest of WCS Korea, but unfortunately tournaments collide.
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
August 22 2012 21:30 GMT
#1212
On August 23 2012 04:36 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


Sounds good. Sad to see Hero go though, he's the only player I was cheering for left in WCS, being a protoss and not knowing any of the Kespa guys (yet), I cheered for the Euro team guy with an international class haircut (what else is there ?), WCS just got rather pointless for me, got no one to get excited about for the rest of the tournament

liquid = euro team..? i thought it is based in NY and is a multi national team?
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#1213
On August 23 2012 05:58 jmbthirteen wrote:
I think Hero and Liquid made the best of a bad situation. He was able to secure his spot in WCS Asia, but also be able to visit his foreign fans at MLG which he is seeded into the groups. Obviously it sucks to forfeit the rest of WCS Korea, but unfortunately tournaments collide.


Yeah. It's interesting to compare his situation with that of Taeja, who had to sacrifice his chances in WCS completely (skipping the KR preliminaries, which HerO didn't need to attend thanks to his GSL ranking) in order to participate in the Arena.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4558 Posts
August 22 2012 21:55 GMT
#1214
On August 23 2012 03:54 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:41 FataLe wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:46 ]343[ wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:58 thegreatpiata wrote:
On August 23 2012 00:48 SHOOG wrote:
It must be horrible being a GSL player an knowin you spent so much time practicing only to get beat by people who have played a lot less than you!
Kespa is full of Stephanos?!


and no, quite the opposite... they just practice way more, in a more regimented manner
Someone find this man a sense of humour. He appears to have lost his!


clearly I must have, since it wasn't that funny

No it was. It's just your sense of humour ^^


well damn

gg

gg
hi. big fan.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
August 22 2012 22:12 GMT
#1215
On August 23 2012 06:30 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 04:36 Eurekastreet wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


Sounds good. Sad to see Hero go though, he's the only player I was cheering for left in WCS, being a protoss and not knowing any of the Kespa guys (yet), I cheered for the Euro team guy with an international class haircut (what else is there ?), WCS just got rather pointless for me, got no one to get excited about for the rest of the tournament

liquid = euro team..? i thought it is based in NY and is a multi national team?

No one working on the team is based in our NY office permanently. Nazgul is Dutch and lives in the Netherlands. I'm Danish and live in Denmark. Treehugger is American and lives in Minnesota when he studies and during summer in NY. Kennigit lives in Ottawa, Canada.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
August 23 2012 00:27 GMT
#1216
On August 23 2012 07:12 Bumblebee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 06:30 sc14s wrote:
On August 23 2012 04:36 Eurekastreet wrote:
On August 23 2012 02:53 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Just a small word on HerO's forfeit. Because Bumblebee is the man and does his job better than anyone, we found out about the scheduling issue between MLG and WCS in July. We really do not like consciously committing to things we can't finish so we suggested to WCS that we cancel HerO and TaeJa's participation.

These choices need to be made very early on. MLG needs to know whether you're coming to play group stage so they can book the flights and hotel for you. The forfeit has nothing to do with how much of a chance we have to win WCS due to PvP or other silly speculation like that. You don't tell MLG you will participate, having your flights booked, and then say never mind our chances in WCS are better. We decided MLG over WCS, knowing we would be in MLG group stage, when WCS had not even started yet.

After some communication GOMTV basically said we should join WCS, and play it for the seeds to WCS Asia, since it was possible to qualify for top 8 before MLG started. We appreciate this kind of attitude from tournaments, although as our suggestion implies we also would have understood if they said you can't play.


Sounds good. Sad to see Hero go though, he's the only player I was cheering for left in WCS, being a protoss and not knowing any of the Kespa guys (yet), I cheered for the Euro team guy with an international class haircut (what else is there ?), WCS just got rather pointless for me, got no one to get excited about for the rest of the tournament

liquid = euro team..? i thought it is based in NY and is a multi national team?

No one working on the team is based in our NY office permanently. Nazgul is Dutch and lives in the Netherlands. I'm Danish and live in Denmark. Treehugger is American and lives in Minnesota when he studies and during summer in NY. Kennigit lives in Ottawa, Canada.

seems to support my previous statement xD
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
August 23 2012 06:44 GMT
#1217
I will admit I am a bit disappointed that I will not see a PvP between HerO and herO. That would have made for some really good laughs I'm sure. But then again I wish HerO good luck at MLG
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