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On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.
Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do? How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?
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Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard. Marines are pretty good. Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.
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Once you spread out 12 thors and siege up, no roach or ultralisk army is ever going to break it. To be fair, supernova could have just stayed in one place and won that as well.
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:
Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do? How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?
he was joking
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote: Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.
It can work as long as you kill 70 drones while you slowly build up
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote: Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.
I think we both know Artosis is. :-P
I like it though, adds a branch of diversity. :-D
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On August 18 2012 02:36 EmmeCY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:29 starception wrote: who cares if hasu obs beat mc, he still is not advancing so I don't know why he didn't just probe rush because: 1) having a better position in the group will be rewarded with extra money 2) because some players just want to enjoy the game and have fun, trying their best!  ggwp Hasu! 
Yeah, a true warrior wants to win no matter the benefit. I think it shows class and professionalism to perserevere.
Go Hasu!
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard. Marines are pretty good. Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.
To be fair, +3 defense drones will last like hell vs the marines.
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On August 18 2012 02:34 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:33 Topdoller wrote: SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals Why would you make an upgraded marines just to spend minerals. He constantly dumped excess into hellion harass, which is like 100* better
Good point, just think with that kind of spare money in the bank, its possible to build barracks and tech switch to marine \ marauder to handle lings better .
His constant hellion harrass was amazing mind you
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Austria24417 Posts
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote: Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.
People have been frustrated with TvZ so they've been trying to figure out more styles I suppose. I like it!
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On August 18 2012 02:38 MangoMountain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:
Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do? How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?
he was joking
Hard to tell anymore with so many of these comments....
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard. Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do? How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?
Give this guy some sarcasm-detect0matic
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote: Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games. Of course, always good to see variation. Love seeing mech come out in tvt and tvz.
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard. Marines are pretty good. Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.
Nah, correct response is to turn every Zergling that was already in his original composition into banelings (because banelings hard counter Marines), and run them into Tank lines.
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On August 18 2012 02:37 Chaosvuistje wrote: Once you spread out 12 thors and siege up, no roach or ultralisk army is ever going to break it. To be fair, supernova could have just stayed in one place and won that as well.
Actually, it's easy to break even 3/3 mech with Zerg armies. But you can't just A-move and expect to win, come on!
The idea is to tech switch after the break, which Vortix never did.
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On August 18 2012 02:39 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote: Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ? I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games. Of course, always good to see variation. Love seeing mech come out in tvt and tvz.
I love seeing mech but I also know it has its inherent weaknesses. This isn't some magic bullet or undiscovered territory.
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On August 18 2012 02:38 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:More data for the raven TvZ case How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk ... and then vortix gg already, fu SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ? The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard. Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do? How do they handle 3/3 cracklings? Give this guy some sarcasm-detect0matic
Well it is sometimes hard to tell, given that it is Internet and people do have some strange ideas about what works and what doesn't in sc2...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Pretty sure day9 is wrong about Voritx advancing if he beats Supernova here. Violet had the same score as MVP and beat him head to head, but is still second because of map score.
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