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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#2481
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do?
How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?

Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#2482
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Nausea_
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden68 Posts
August 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#2483
HasuObs, impressive.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#2484
On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Marines are pretty good.

Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.
Glorious SEA doto
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
August 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#2485
Once you spread out 12 thors and siege up, no roach or ultralisk army is ever going to break it. To be fair, supernova could have just stayed in one place and won that as well.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2486
On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:

Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do?
How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?


he was joking
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2487
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote:
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.


It can work as long as you kill 70 drones while you slowly build up
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2488
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote:
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.


I think we both know Artosis is. :-P

I like it though, adds a branch of diversity. :-D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2489
On August 18 2012 02:36 EmmeCY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:29 starception wrote:
who cares if hasu obs beat mc, he still is not advancing so I don't know why he didn't just probe rush


because:
1) having a better position in the group will be rewarded with extra money
2) because some players just want to enjoy the game and have fun, trying their best!

ggwp Hasu!


Yeah, a true warrior wants to win no matter the benefit. I think it shows class and professionalism to perserevere.

Go Hasu!
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2490
On August 18 2012 02:37 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Marines are pretty good.

Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.


To be fair, +3 defense drones will last like hell vs the marines.
The Bomber boy
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2491
On August 18 2012 02:34 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:33 Topdoller wrote:
SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


Why would you make an upgraded marines just to spend minerals.

He constantly dumped excess into hellion harass, which is like 100* better



Good point, just think with that kind of spare money in the bank, its possible to build barracks and tech switch to marine \ marauder to handle lings better .

His constant hellion harrass was amazing mind you
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2492
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote:
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.


People have been frustrated with TvZ so they've been trying to figure out more styles I suppose. I like it!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2493
On August 18 2012 02:38 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:

Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do?
How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?


he was joking


Hard to tell anymore with so many of these comments....
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
August 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#2494
On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do?
How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?



Give this guy some sarcasm-detect0matic
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#2495
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote:
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.

Of course, always good to see variation. Love seeing mech come out in tvt and tvz.

gyad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States423 Posts
August 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#2496
On August 18 2012 02:37 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:36 gyad wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Marines are pretty good.

Hey it can work, the zerg sees a 0/0 marine he's like "Wtf is this" suddenly goes full panic, sacs the entire army and remaxes on drones.


Nah, correct response is to turn every Zergling that was already in his original composition into banelings (because banelings hard counter Marines), and run them into Tank lines.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
August 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#2497
On August 18 2012 02:37 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Once you spread out 12 thors and siege up, no roach or ultralisk army is ever going to break it. To be fair, supernova could have just stayed in one place and won that as well.


Actually, it's easy to break even 3/3 mech with Zerg armies. But you can't just A-move and expect to win, come on!

The idea is to tech switch after the break, which Vortix never did.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
August 17 2012 17:40 GMT
#2498
On August 18 2012 02:39 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:37 Noocta wrote:
Anyone is kinda happy that Mech is actually a viable choice for TvZ ?
I've always been on the " It's fun, but really not as good as biomech" side, but recently we've seen some great mech games.

Of course, always good to see variation. Love seeing mech come out in tvt and tvz.



I love seeing mech but I also know it has its inherent weaknesses. This isn't some magic bullet or undiscovered territory.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 17 2012 17:40 GMT
#2499
On August 18 2012 02:38 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2012 02:37 Qwerty85 wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 18 2012 02:33 Noocta wrote:
More data for the raven TvZ case

How does raven transition work when going mech into raven against Ultralisk

... and then vortix gg already, fu

SuperNova should be mixing marines to burn off minerals


You mean those 0/0 marines without stim ?

The 0/0 mass marine transition, catches all zergs off guard.


Lol what? How much armor 5/3 ultras have? How much damage 0/0 marines do?
How do they handle 3/3 cracklings?



Give this guy some sarcasm-detect0matic


Well it is sometimes hard to tell, given that it is Internet and people do have some strange ideas about what works and what doesn't in sc2...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 17 2012 17:41 GMT
#2500
Pretty sure day9 is wrong about Voritx advancing if he beats Supernova here. Violet had the same score as MVP and beat him head to head, but is still second because of map score.
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