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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
August 16 2012 14:59 GMT
#2341
On August 16 2012 23:57 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:54 vthree wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:51 xrapture wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:49 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:47 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:45 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:35 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Elios wrote:
The best terran in the world ... come and make 20 ravens and wins...

Terrans still say "Ravens are bad!!"...

Just learn to play the game.

Just read the posts people who actually know what they're talking about have made on this.

Starcraft isn't a game where you just summon good units out of nowhere, you have to consider transitioning to them, being safe in the interim, the possibility of your opponent techswitching etc etc


So you simply ... learn to play the game...Thx .

Yeah I'll take the advice of a trash poster who doesn't have any idea what he's talking about and doesn't expand on his points. I suppose if you tried to expand on them you'd prove your ignorance so one sentence 'learn to plays' help you hide your miniscule knowledge of the game.


Stop crying ...if terran nowadays dont know how to play with ravens its ok ... at least someone knows and guess what ... hes MVP...so go back to your world where "Ravens are bad".

Please tell us more about the incredible no split from Nestea which allowed Ravens to be good.


Why would he split if he didnt even see the ravens before? ...

That was all MVP strategy ...


I don't understand. Terrans have been preemptively splitting vs all races for over a year. Toss do the same thing for emp...


Air units are inherently much harder to split compare to marines, templars. Also, splitting also hurts your DPS since not all your corrupters will be firing and vikings can kite them back and make them bunched again. Can the zerg players do a better job? Sure. But it is not as easy as it looks.

Oh please, do tell those TERRANS how difficult it is to split ground (marines, marauders, tanks etc) and air units (vikings) so they don't get obliterated by something like banelings and fungals.

He's right on the air unit point, as a Terran player I'm sure you know what he's talking about. Terran bio, at least when you split doesn't immediately re-clump up in the same way air units do.

I actually wish Blizzard would introduce some kind of change to the way air units work in this fact. They can clump initially that's fine, but after you split them they should stay split a little more
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 16 2012 14:59 GMT
#2342
On August 16 2012 23:57 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:54 vthree wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:51 xrapture wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:49 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:47 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:45 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:35 Elios wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Elios wrote:
The best terran in the world ... come and make 20 ravens and wins...

Terrans still say "Ravens are bad!!"...

Just learn to play the game.

Just read the posts people who actually know what they're talking about have made on this.

Starcraft isn't a game where you just summon good units out of nowhere, you have to consider transitioning to them, being safe in the interim, the possibility of your opponent techswitching etc etc


So you simply ... learn to play the game...Thx .

Yeah I'll take the advice of a trash poster who doesn't have any idea what he's talking about and doesn't expand on his points. I suppose if you tried to expand on them you'd prove your ignorance so one sentence 'learn to plays' help you hide your miniscule knowledge of the game.


Stop crying ...if terran nowadays dont know how to play with ravens its ok ... at least someone knows and guess what ... hes MVP...so go back to your world where "Ravens are bad".

Please tell us more about the incredible no split from Nestea which allowed Ravens to be good.


Why would he split if he didnt even see the ravens before? ...

That was all MVP strategy ...


I don't understand. Terrans have been preemptively splitting vs all races for over a year. Toss do the same thing for emp...


Air units are inherently much harder to split compare to marines, templars. Also, splitting also hurts your DPS since not all your corrupters will be firing and vikings can kite them back and make them bunched again. Can the zerg players do a better job? Sure. But it is not as easy as it looks.

Oh please, do tell those TERRANS how difficult it is to split ground (marines, marauders, tanks etc) and air units (vikings) so they don't get obliterated by something like banelings and fungals.


??? I said air units, this means corrupters, BLs, vikings, voidrays, mutas, phoenix... Not a comment on race..
Gutrot
Profile Joined August 2010
122 Posts
August 16 2012 15:01 GMT
#2343
Can we stop the whining about which race has it harder splitting, and enjoy the games.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 15:01 GMT
#2344
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FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
August 16 2012 15:01 GMT
#2345
Ohana a more open map than DayBreak?

You high Kaelaris?
Elios
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil277 Posts
August 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#2346
On August 17 2012 00:01 Gutrot wrote:
Can we stop the whining about which race has it harder splitting, and enjoy the games.

If u dont wanna read people talkign about the game ... why are you even at a forum ?
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
August 16 2012 15:02 GMT
#2347
wondering if people red that
even thought Metropolis + PF + turtle how can that happens x)
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#2348
On August 16 2012 23:32 Zwerver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:27 Scrubwave wrote:
It'd be hilarious to see a bunch of ravens get chain fungaled and lose MVP thousands of gas as a result, all with 0 hsms fired.


You can kill infestors with ravens, you even have detecton. Please think before you type.


I love the insight of that post.

I'll give you a clue: test the range differential between Fungal and HSM.

Now apply that to a real game.
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
August 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#2349
On August 17 2012 00:02 Elios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:01 Gutrot wrote:
Can we stop the whining about which race has it harder splitting, and enjoy the games.

If u dont wanna read people talkign about the game ... why are you even at a forum ?


I assume this is an LR thread. And LR threads and balance discussions have a very long, cloudy history on TL.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#2350
It's not so much about raven being bad. It is more about getting enough raven while surviving until that point. This is possible only on maps like metropolis, atlantis spaceship, or sometimes whirlwind where Terran can have 4+ bases relatively easily. Zerg late game is very strong, yet Terran super late game is better than that of Zerg if Terran can manage to get there, which is usually very hard to pull off. That map + his drops bought enough time for that unit composition for MVP.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 16 2012 15:05 GMT
#2351
YES!

ling/infestor style for Nestea :D
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4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 16 2012 15:06 GMT
#2352
tourmenteur, tbh english is just a boring language
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
August 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2353
who left BYES for the playoffs?
Sekken
Profile Joined August 2012
Afghanistan248 Posts
August 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2354
What's that cheering in the backround? If only sc2 got that much love
High dia terran, and slayer of Zergs -.-
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 16 2012 15:09 GMT
#2355
On August 17 2012 00:06 4Servy wrote:
tourmenteur, tbh english is just a boring language


hatchery = couveuse \o/
Terran & Potato Salad.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 16 2012 15:09 GMT
#2356
On August 17 2012 00:08 phanto wrote:
who left BYES for the playoffs?


It's the bonus for the group winners.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
August 16 2012 15:09 GMT
#2357
On August 17 2012 00:08 phanto wrote:
who left BYES for the playoffs?


The person who tops the group gets a seed directly into round of 8. Apparantly, for formatting reasons, they've decided to show this with a BYE, but I think you could show it in another way to make it less confusing.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 15:10 GMT
#2358
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soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
August 16 2012 15:10 GMT
#2359
On August 17 2012 00:08 phanto wrote:
who left BYES for the playoffs?


It's the group play winner's advantage, they go straight to BO8 while the second and third placer have to battle it out in RO16.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 16 2012 15:10 GMT
#2360
MVP wasting no time in frying up some bacon
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