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On August 16 2012 02:24 lim1017 wrote:
If theres no live audience. Whats the point of the stage and player presentations etc?
For the stream? No crowd isn't an excuse to skip out on stream production for all of us watching.
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On August 16 2012 02:25 BaRtHeN wrote:
btw when are played those 'open bracket' finals ?
They don't play the finals, the finalists in the open bracket make it to the main tournament group stage.
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How do these events make money, the viewer count is not that high and no one is there, where are all the people?
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On August 16 2012 02:22 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:21 ragz_gt wrote:On August 16 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Fjodorov wrote:
Lucifrons plan was to mass ghosts, snipe the observer and kill JYP with his invisible army? Im not kidding, that seemed to be the plan. Ghosts are really tanky and have a good dps against zealots, moreover emp is pretty good and they don't take additionnal damage from Stalker. In a perfect world all your bio units would be ghosts late game. They also have negative DPS (well, not negative, but 1/3 of unstimmed 1/5 of stimmed marine per supply when 3/3). They're also much more tanky and EMP can drain up to like half the HP/shields of units in the first place, and they have cloaking. Plus marines versus 3/3 zealots with guardian shield are good but not so good.
The thing is you end up with a Roach counters muta sort of problem. Cheap unit with higher DPS can just inflict alot of damage while ignores army.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 DanboSmitty wrote:
How do these events make money, the viewer count is not that high and no one is there, where are all the people?
Look at the top ffs.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 Quenchiest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:24 lim1017 wrote:
If theres no live audience. Whats the point of the stage and player presentations etc? For the stream? No crowd isn't an excuse to skip out on stream production for all of us watching.
Plus, there will probably be a crowd during the main tournament. This is just the open bracket stuff.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 Quenchiest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:24 lim1017 wrote:
If theres no live audience. Whats the point of the stage and player presentations etc? For the stream? No crowd isn't an excuse to skip out on stream production for all of us watching.
There will be audience tomorrow. Better do it before hand than do it tonight.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 DanboSmitty wrote:
How do these events make money, the viewer count is not that high and no one is there, where are all the people?
It boggles my mind how blind some people can be
The top of the thread: "There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday"
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On August 16 2012 02:26 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:25 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On August 16 2012 02:21 Bam Lee wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 16 2012 02:15 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:On August 16 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:On August 16 2012 01:54 sc2holar wrote:
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Please dont use that word, its highly offensive and innapropriate. Is it more or less offensive than, say, "killer absolutely murdered him"? Just curious More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive. You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions. This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that? its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape. Its about manners and common sense, not emotions. Jesus, this has nothing to do with manners even. Its about being a decent human being. Rape isn't something to joke about, its horrific and it scars people for life. Its one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I have a close friend who was raped, she only recently started dealing with it. It has a daily negative effect on her. I won't say much more because, honestly, it makes me incredibly angry. Don't use that word, not because you should be PC, not because people tell you not to, but rather because it can invoke the worst thing that has ever happened to a person. . My father died recently, so the word death is naturally potentially upsetting for me, or phrases like 'wow you nearly gave me a heart attack', should people stop saying things on the off-chance that it can upset or offend? was just about to write something similar. Seriously your reasoning behind not using the word is kinda stupid. If you cant tolerate a simple word in a forum then better stop reading in any forum. Nobody is joking about rape btw This communities shitty attitude towards minorities is actually (part of) why I've pretty much stepped out of it. I straight up refused to host Destiny when he came to Texas. I went from organizing tournaments to almost 0 involvment. I'm nursing a hangover and thought I'd watch IEM, alas, that seems to be a mistake. Rofl. Sorry, this is incredibly petty and probably more toxic than Destiny's "attitude toward minorities" which, if you've actually watched his explanation, doesn't even exist.
People believe that by ignoring something it goes away. Me not saying elephant or rape doesn't remove silly articles or people getting raped.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:27 DanboSmitty wrote:
How do these events make money, the viewer count is not that high and no one is there, where are all the people? Look at the top ffs.
Seriously.
That, and, for an open bracket I'd say the viewer count is pretty good.
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I'm calling JYP gets his revenge by barely beating ForGG in a crazy 2-1 scenario!
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On August 16 2012 02:27 Quenchiest wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:24 lim1017 wrote:
If theres no live audience. Whats the point of the stage and player presentations etc? For the stream? No crowd isn't an excuse to skip out on stream production for all of us watching.
Also for practice and criticism for when there is a live crowd probably
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On August 16 2012 02:27 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:22 Heavenlee wrote:On August 16 2012 02:21 ragz_gt wrote:On August 16 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Fjodorov wrote:
Lucifrons plan was to mass ghosts, snipe the observer and kill JYP with his invisible army? Im not kidding, that seemed to be the plan. Ghosts are really tanky and have a good dps against zealots, moreover emp is pretty good and they don't take additionnal damage from Stalker. In a perfect world all your bio units would be ghosts late game. They also have negative DPS (well, not negative, but 1/3 of unstimmed 1/5 of stimmed marine per supply when 3/3). They're also much more tanky and EMP can drain up to like half the HP/shields of units in the first place, and they have cloaking. Plus marines versus 3/3 zealots with guardian shield are good but not so good. The thing is you end up with a Roach counters muta sort of problem. Cheap unit with higher DPS can just inflict alot of damage while ignores army.
what?
In which world 5range marines ignore colossi? At one time you've to 200/200 the P if you let the game reached that point.
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Would it be allowed if one of the players used the newly discovered mineral boost trick? Has there been a statement on that?
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Pig is a pretty awesome commentator ;o
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I love Jarett Cale. He is legend.
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On August 16 2012 02:28 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:26 Shiori wrote:On August 16 2012 02:25 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On August 16 2012 02:21 Bam Lee wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 16 2012 02:15 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:On August 16 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
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Is it more or less offensive than, say, "killer absolutely murdered him"? Just curious More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive. You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions. This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that? its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape. Its about manners and common sense, not emotions. Jesus, this has nothing to do with manners even. Its about being a decent human being. Rape isn't something to joke about, its horrific and it scars people for life. Its one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I have a close friend who was raped, she only recently started dealing with it. It has a daily negative effect on her. I won't say much more because, honestly, it makes me incredibly angry. Don't use that word, not because you should be PC, not because people tell you not to, but rather because it can invoke the worst thing that has ever happened to a person. . My father died recently, so the word death is naturally potentially upsetting for me, or phrases like 'wow you nearly gave me a heart attack', should people stop saying things on the off-chance that it can upset or offend? was just about to write something similar. Seriously your reasoning behind not using the word is kinda stupid. If you cant tolerate a simple word in a forum then better stop reading in any forum. Nobody is joking about rape btw This communities shitty attitude towards minorities is actually (part of) why I've pretty much stepped out of it. I straight up refused to host Destiny when he came to Texas. I went from organizing tournaments to almost 0 involvment. I'm nursing a hangover and thought I'd watch IEM, alas, that seems to be a mistake. Rofl. Sorry, this is incredibly petty and probably more toxic than Destiny's "attitude toward minorities" which, if you've actually watched his explanation, doesn't even exist. People believe that by ignoring something it goes away. Me not saying elephant or rape doesn't remove silly articles or people getting raped.
True that. In fact, creating a bubble to live in to avoid facing things that (apparently) cause emotional trauma is not conducive to mental health. Best way to deal with anxiety or fear or emotional baggage is to confront it, not ask everyone to never speak about anything that might possibly remind you of it.
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On August 16 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:27 ragz_gt wrote:On August 16 2012 02:22 Heavenlee wrote:On August 16 2012 02:21 ragz_gt wrote:On August 16 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Fjodorov wrote:
Lucifrons plan was to mass ghosts, snipe the observer and kill JYP with his invisible army? Im not kidding, that seemed to be the plan. Ghosts are really tanky and have a good dps against zealots, moreover emp is pretty good and they don't take additionnal damage from Stalker. In a perfect world all your bio units would be ghosts late game. They also have negative DPS (well, not negative, but 1/3 of unstimmed 1/5 of stimmed marine per supply when 3/3). They're also much more tanky and EMP can drain up to like half the HP/shields of units in the first place, and they have cloaking. Plus marines versus 3/3 zealots with guardian shield are good but not so good. The thing is you end up with a Roach counters muta sort of problem. Cheap unit with higher DPS can just inflict alot of damage while ignores army. what? In which world 5range marines ignore colossi? At one time you've to 200/200 the P if you let the game reached that point.
HIGHER dps. you can't call marine higher DPS than colossi.
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Go ForGG! We could use one more terran in the scheme.
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On August 16 2012 02:27 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 02:26 Le BucheRON wrote:On August 16 2012 02:23 Shiori wrote:On August 16 2012 02:21 Le BucheRON wrote:On August 16 2012 02:17 Sc2Null wrote:On August 16 2012 02:13 Chunhyang wrote:On August 16 2012 02:08 shabby wrote:On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:
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More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive. You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions. This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that? its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape. Its about manners and common sense, not emotions. It is emotions, because you are immediately using the definition of forcefully having sex with someone, while rape can mean everything from abuse to violate and plunder etc. You can rape someones base in SC2 for instance. It is not an offensive and distasteful word, that is your opinion. A word is a word, and its context is what could be deemed offensive, not the words themselves, which only job is to describe something. You are making a case for that rape is a more offensive word than others, and that is based on your experiences and emotions with the word, and your associations with it. Well, he does have a point though. 'Rape'. Some words have connotations that come with them, sometimes even regardless of the context they are used in. It's not always completely in the mind of the listener. However, I do think 'rape' in this context though [gaming/competition] is ok. Usage and all. Custom. It's tolerable. The guy is obviously trolling..If someone wants to say 'rape' or 'butt molested', thats his/her choice..You asking will only make them say it more. Yes, but someday someone they love will be affected in this way and they'll be the ones that prefer others not to use this slang/terminology. Just grow up and use a better word that doesn't involve imagery of someone forcibly violating someone. Did you know rape can refer to molestation in a completely non-personal sense? For example, the French imperialists raped the Haitian natural resources. Unless you think the French literally started fucking the dirt, you'e going to need to adopt a wider view of what words mean. Yes, and rape is also another word for canola (where the oil comes from) but come on. We all know the connection here. I'm not going around calling people "faggot" and excusing myself because it has different meanings (cigarette, pile of wood). I'm pretty sure when I use the word "rape" to describe utterly dominating and crushing someone in the context of competition, I'm not referring to them actually having held down the opposing player and fucked them.
You are colloquializing the word tho - and that's the whole reason for complains.
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