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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#1541
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

That seems like a nice perk.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#1542
A clumped-up Terran is a dead Terran. Tell that to your children every night before they go to sleep.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#1543
On August 14 2012 07:17 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:09 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:07 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:06 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:04 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Porcelina wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:01 ELA wrote:
DId stream just die?


Waxangel tripped over yet another cable at TL offices.

R1ch will have to 'do something'.


You can mail me the royalty payment check for that joke.


sorry bro, your out of luck. I joked around about it too. You shoulda claimed IP rights before posting it (;


I'll see you in court! I have prior art!


They have COURTS in Estonia? I thought civilization ended at germanys eastern border!


Courts and civilization were doing great for nearly a thousand years before you guys decided to sack Rome. Good going!


you're mistaken, we not only sacked it, we highjacked it afterwards aswell... in the holy roman empire! (;
Broodwar for life!
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
August 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#1544
IPL video guy also doing TSL?
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 13 2012 22:20 GMT
#1545
On August 14 2012 07:18 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:17 imallinson wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:15 imallinson wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:13 imallinson wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:11 imallinson wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:08 ELA wrote:
According to Twitch.tv, there are 500 people still watching... You guys better start doing some live reporting man!


Major is meching, has 3 bases. JR is going for a pretty quick hive and is getting his 4th up.


17:00
Major taking his 4th JR taking his 5th. Both getting 3-3 and JR is getting greater spire and ultralisk cavern.


19:00
Major seiges up JR's center base but gets all his hellions fungalled to death and has lost most of his army. JR has countered taking out Major's 4th.


22:00
Major taking his 4th again and trying to rebuild his army. JR attacks again crushing Major's army again Major ggs.


Wait wtf you mean streams not working and they are still playing it? Oh well means I can stop waiting/refreshing


Equally confused. I was sure it was a joke when I saw the first post. Then I smiled even more when I saw the second. Huh.
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1546
On August 14 2012 07:20 amazingoopah wrote:
IPL video guy also doing TSL?


Perhaps that's another reason we didn't get to see this on saturday.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1547
On August 14 2012 07:19 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:15 Terranist wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:14 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:12 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:09 Sroobz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:04 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Terranist wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:00 Terranist wrote:
[quote]

ravens... ghosts... lol...


Ravens are good in TvZ.

PDD or Hunter Seeker does a lot against the corrupters making your vikings able to deal with them and the broodlords.


the only thing ravens are good at in tvz is getting fungal'd and making you instalose.


Only if you're an idiot with them. Keep them behind your tanks, pull your vikings back and they're damned useful.

Just because they look like they get fungalled and lead to your loss doesn't make them a bad unit. It's the players being really stupid.


Yeah he's right. Ravens are so good in TvZ when you micro your marines/marauders around perfectly, keep your vikings from getting clumped, siege at perfect moments, and move around your ravens above the tanks while stimming, sieging, focus firing, and casting PDD + seeker missile against the impossible to play with zerg army of multitasking goodness.


Why would you need to micro your marine marauder around? I'm not seeing why you'd ever want to when you have your tank line set up to deal with the infestors. If you move any bio forward it's going to get fungaled and you'll die and seriously I'm a high platinum/diamond Terran and I have 0 issues splitting vikings. It's almost impossible not to. just have them set into 3 groups over seperate hotkeys and attack from different angles.

Ahhh, High Plat. Awesome.

So how many hotkeys we talking, 1 for bio, 1 for tanks, 1 for ghosts and like 4 for you air units? Okay.. Cool.


it bothers me when other races theory craft about how terran should be played at a grandmaster+ level. if ravens actually worked and didnt die to fungal every time someone made them, they would be used far more often.

God it pisses me off. I have a hotkey setup specifically to give 4 useable army control groups when I play Terran and it is beyond difficult to pull off these kind of things.

At least when I'm playing PvT, and losing or really working up a sweat I KNOW that my Terran opponent's hands are probably about to fall off, the discrepancy between Zerg and Terran army control is beyond a joke now.


agree. in theory ghosts and ravens possibly could be a counter, but in practice there are no terran players that can pull it off yet because one fungal on the ravens is all it takes to win the game.


Only if you stack them up... Why is it so hard to split your units? People split their bio against banelings at that level, I'm sure they can split a group of ravens with little to no effort. Nothing will change if nobody tries anything new. You can't expect balance changes to change the metagame for the players every time, the players need to experiment.
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Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1548
On August 14 2012 07:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
What pisses me off is when people ona public forum flame anyone except the top 1% of players for trying to contribute to a conversation about starcraft. Go play on a GM only forum and stop being so elitist.


It's amazing how many Grandmaster players there are on this forum whenever a balance discussion starts...

No one cares about your rank or what your thoughts on balance are, just watch the games and enjoy. It's the greatest tournament in the world, please try harder not to spoil it for the rest of us :D
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1549
On August 14 2012 07:20 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:17 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:09 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:07 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:06 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:04 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Porcelina wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:01 ELA wrote:
DId stream just die?


Waxangel tripped over yet another cable at TL offices.

R1ch will have to 'do something'.


You can mail me the royalty payment check for that joke.


sorry bro, your out of luck. I joked around about it too. You shoulda claimed IP rights before posting it (;


I'll see you in court! I have prior art!


They have COURTS in Estonia? I thought civilization ended at germanys eastern border!


Courts and civilization were doing great for nearly a thousand years before you guys decided to sack Rome. Good going!


you're mistaken, we not only sacked it, we highjacked it afterwards aswell... in the holy roman empire! (;


Nothing like a thousand years of cultural regression and theocracy!
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
hayata2.0
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1550
On August 14 2012 07:20 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

That seems like a nice perk.

yeah its called a paywall
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1551
On August 14 2012 07:21 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:20 amazingoopah wrote:
IPL video guy also doing TSL?


Perhaps that's another reason we didn't get to see this on saturday.


Bravo.
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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 13 2012 22:21 GMT
#1552
On August 14 2012 07:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:18 The_Unseen wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:11 sAsImre wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:09 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:07 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:06 Cele wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:04 yeint wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Porcelina wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:01 ELA wrote:
DId stream just die?


Waxangel tripped over yet another cable at TL offices.

R1ch will have to 'do something'.


You can mail me the royalty payment check for that joke.


sorry bro, your out of luck. I joked around about it too. You shoulda claimed IP rights before posting it (;


I'll see you in court! I have prior art!


They have COURTS in Estonia? I thought civilization ended at western germany eastern border!


fixed for you


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Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
August 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1553
On August 14 2012 07:20 amazingoopah wrote:
IPL video guy also doing TSL?


At first I laughed, then I cried....

I'll have to wait a few days for that vod on youtube where MajOr goes mech.

again
Rogue Deck
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1554
Stream is offline T.T

welp
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1555
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

Retaliation towards people who ask for refunds i guess.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9842 Posts
August 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1556
On August 14 2012 07:21 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
What pisses me off is when people ona public forum flame anyone except the top 1% of players for trying to contribute to a conversation about starcraft. Go play on a GM only forum and stop being so elitist.


It's amazing how many Grandmaster players there are on this forum whenever a balance discussion starts...

No one cares about your rank or what your thoughts on balance are, just watch the games and enjoy. It's the greatest tournament in the world, please try harder not to spoil it for the rest of us :D


I didn't make any comments on balance
RIP Meatloaf <3
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 13 2012 22:22 GMT
#1557
clicked on the live icon at the top, showed the credit screen and then the stream went offline. LoL. Looks like they finished without even noticing
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 13 2012 22:23 GMT
#1558
On August 14 2012 07:21 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:19 Terranist wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:15 Terranist wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:14 Jono7272 wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:12 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:09 Sroobz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:04 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Terranist wrote:
On August 14 2012 07:02 Qikz wrote:
[quote]

Ravens are good in TvZ.

PDD or Hunter Seeker does a lot against the corrupters making your vikings able to deal with them and the broodlords.


the only thing ravens are good at in tvz is getting fungal'd and making you instalose.


Only if you're an idiot with them. Keep them behind your tanks, pull your vikings back and they're damned useful.

Just because they look like they get fungalled and lead to your loss doesn't make them a bad unit. It's the players being really stupid.


Yeah he's right. Ravens are so good in TvZ when you micro your marines/marauders around perfectly, keep your vikings from getting clumped, siege at perfect moments, and move around your ravens above the tanks while stimming, sieging, focus firing, and casting PDD + seeker missile against the impossible to play with zerg army of multitasking goodness.


Why would you need to micro your marine marauder around? I'm not seeing why you'd ever want to when you have your tank line set up to deal with the infestors. If you move any bio forward it's going to get fungaled and you'll die and seriously I'm a high platinum/diamond Terran and I have 0 issues splitting vikings. It's almost impossible not to. just have them set into 3 groups over seperate hotkeys and attack from different angles.

Ahhh, High Plat. Awesome.

So how many hotkeys we talking, 1 for bio, 1 for tanks, 1 for ghosts and like 4 for you air units? Okay.. Cool.


it bothers me when other races theory craft about how terran should be played at a grandmaster+ level. if ravens actually worked and didnt die to fungal every time someone made them, they would be used far more often.

God it pisses me off. I have a hotkey setup specifically to give 4 useable army control groups when I play Terran and it is beyond difficult to pull off these kind of things.

At least when I'm playing PvT, and losing or really working up a sweat I KNOW that my Terran opponent's hands are probably about to fall off, the discrepancy between Zerg and Terran army control is beyond a joke now.


agree. in theory ghosts and ravens possibly could be a counter, but in practice there are no terran players that can pull it off yet because one fungal on the ravens is all it takes to win the game.


Only if you stack them up... Why is it so hard to split your units? People split their bio against banelings at that level, I'm sure they can split a group of ravens with little to no effort. Nothing will change if nobody tries anything new. You can't expect balance changes to change the metagame for the players every time, the players need to experiment.


you have to understand that marines are expendable and can be replenished easily. it's not wise to invest so heavily into a unit that has little hp and clumps extremely easily like ghosts and ravens.
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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
August 13 2012 22:23 GMT
#1559
On August 14 2012 07:20 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

That seems like a nice perk.


Damn, you're right. Stream was black, then I logged in and cought like 4 seconds of the closing credits. Yay, this is fun.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
August 13 2012 22:23 GMT
#1560
On August 14 2012 07:20 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 07:19 Noonius wrote:
apparently only people with TSL+ are able to watch right now

That seems like a nice perk.

well only the last talk... I have tsl+ and my stream was off as well
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