[Day 2] ASUS ROG Summer 2012 - Page 90

On August 04 2012 01:16 MVTaylor wrote:
Okay well the french decided to go ahead and get fOrGG to start his match with PuMa on their stream, no english coverage of it.

On August 04 2012 01:12 Shiori wrote:

I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever.

On August 04 2012 01:16 Type|NarutO wrote:
After watching a lot of replays, I don't understand why Protoss doesn't go for a well executed 4 gate pressure after expansion against Naama. Cloak would not be in time (after expansion) to kill or damage the protoss even with a very delayed robotics and 1 or 2 bunkers can be easily broken by the 4 gate pressure with chrono'ing the gates.

Makes me wonder. Does any Protoss want to give me info on that?

On August 04 2012 01:16 Type|NarutO wrote:
After watching a lot of replays, I don't understand why Protoss doesn't go for a well executed 4 gate pressure after expansion against Naama. Cloak would not be in time (after expansion) to kill or damage the protoss even with a very delayed robotics and 1 or 2 bunkers can be easily broken by the 4 gate pressure with chrono'ing the gates.

Makes me wonder. Does any Protoss want to give me info on that?

On August 04 2012 01:17 n0ise wrote:


this

I'm looking at Naama's build and still can't understand how he just doesn't die to any 3-4-5 gate

On August 04 2012 01:17 sAsImre wrote:


he sometimes does 1rax FE into 4raxes and bad things happen to the 4gater. I think they just don't want to throw the coin.

On August 04 2012 01:15 revel8 wrote:


You shouldn't need to showcase immense skill to shut the haters up. Hating on players is pointless and damages the SC2 foreign scene, as well as this website.

On August 04 2012 01:17 BlitzerSC wrote:


wtf is that "legal" ?

On August 04 2012 01:19 starception wrote:


how does hating a player hurt sc2? players like major who do stupid shit like bming and changing names every week deserves the hate... or how about hating on orb for being a blatant biggot?

it's like in real sports like when athletes like kobe bryant raped someone or michael vick who did dog fights.. hating on them brings them attention, which also brings attention to esports, which is a good thing

On August 04 2012 01:18 sAsImre wrote:


he can get tanks first and it should be okish, here it's greedy but nice scv scout so...
my dreams of chocho train are about to be real.

On August 04 2012 01:12 Shiori wrote:

I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever.

On August 04 2012 01:18 Type|NarutO wrote:


How is 4 barracks pressure a problem to a 4gate after expansion? At best the Terran player will see it and deny it, but cannot counter nor pressure. You have 4 gateways and will at worst be behind in economy a bit, but still with superior tech as you have gas while he has not...

Now again, whats the reason not to do it :D?

On August 04 2012 01:21 Plansix wrote:


I don't really judge skill based on my opinion of a paticular build. As far as we know, Naama watched 20 of Hero's games on this map and knew that he never scouted that location. People downplay the thought that may go into those sorts of risks and just assume that it is a thoughtless "Well, this will either win or it won't".

No one ever downlplays a players skill when a poker player is bluffing, or a football team for doing a pass fake. I get tried of it in SC2.

But the proof will be if Naama can follow it up and win the set.

On August 04 2012 01:21 sAsImre wrote:


hmm you're a bit better than me but in my experience 4rax 2gas has a nice window against 1gFe 4g.
i don't remember which foreigner T who said that kor P almost never do this build and don't do quick pressure after 1g FE in PvT.