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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.
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On August 04 2012 01:10 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. How was that not outplaying? Hero thought he could split his army up and keep naama on the defensive but naama just went for the counter and shoved it right back in hero's face. DEF outplayed.
Hero lost because of the hidden third. The engagements were just the details essentially.
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On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles.
Shiori, I normally agree with you, but a hidden CC is a good plan against protoss. Most standard builds are so thin on units and rely on turtling, sneaking in a CC isn't bad if you plan to deal with it once it is found.
Losing is getting outplayed.
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On August 04 2012 01:11 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:10 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. scouting gd skill to have  No shit, but it has nothing to do with Naama 'outplaying.' It's just a very risky way to coinflip a win. Goody did the same thing.
you might wonder why everyone does the same thing vs HerO lol.
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On the 1% chance they are allowed to continue playing the series Millenium started the PuMa vs ForGG game on their stream.
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While I admire Hero`s multitask-heavy style he really needs to take a lesson from his fellow protoss` MC and Squrtle in how to get easy wins. His style is just to exhausting and vulnerable for 3 day tournaments.
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On August 04 2012 01:11 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. Shiori, I normally agree with you, but a hidden CC is a good plan against protoss. Most standard builds are so thin on units and rely on turtling, sneaking in a CC isn't bad if you plan to deal with it once it is found. Losing is getting outplayed.
I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever.
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On August 04 2012 01:11 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
Hobot is a slutty robot.
LOL.
I was thinking of a robot walking by, burping with a beer in its hand.
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Naama winning using tanks, what a legend.
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On August 04 2012 01:11 Plansix wrote:
Losing is getting outplayed.
Uh-oh.
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"pull an Incontrol" <- that's some modern slang right there.
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On August 04 2012 01:11 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:10 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. scouting gd skill to have No shit, but it has nothing to do with Naama 'outplaying.' It's just a very risky way to coinflip a win. Goody did the same thing.
This is a common misconception, but mindgames =/= coinflipping. In fact, I'd argue that it's mental outplaying.
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On August 04 2012 01:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:LOL. I was thinking of a robot walking by, burping with a beer in its hand.
![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/en.futurama/images/c/c2/Dixie_and_Trixie.png)
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On August 04 2012 01:12 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:11 Plansix wrote:On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. Shiori, I normally agree with you, but a hidden CC is a good plan against protoss. Most standard builds are so thin on units and rely on turtling, sneaking in a CC isn't bad if you plan to deal with it once it is found. Losing is getting outplayed. I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever.
The skill that that was showcased was strategy - which was probably done before the match.
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On August 04 2012 01:13 MCDayC wrote:
Naama winning using tanks, what a legend.
there is a clear lack of scv trains here, i hope it's going to change...
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On August 04 2012 01:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:13 MCDayC wrote:
Naama winning using tanks, what a legend. there is a clear lack of scv trains here, i hope it's going to change...
I remember those old days during the homestory cup...
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On August 04 2012 01:15 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:14 sAsImre wrote:On August 04 2012 01:13 MCDayC wrote:
Naama winning using tanks, what a legend. there is a clear lack of scv trains here, i hope it's going to change... I remember those old days during the homestory cup...
yeah the same Byun did in the semi :D
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On August 04 2012 01:12 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:11 Plansix wrote:On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. Shiori, I normally agree with you, but a hidden CC is a good plan against protoss. Most standard builds are so thin on units and rely on turtling, sneaking in a CC isn't bad if you plan to deal with it once it is found. Losing is getting outplayed. I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever.
You shouldn't need to showcase immense skill to shut the haters up. Hating on players is pointless and damages the SC2 foreign scene, as well as this website.
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On August 04 2012 01:14 Snijjer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2012 01:12 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:11 Plansix wrote:On August 04 2012 01:09 Shiori wrote:On August 04 2012 01:08 Poisonblack wrote:On August 04 2012 01:07 Mouzone wrote:
How did Naama beat Suppy 3-0? :D by outplaying him like he just did with hero game 2? :D Lol, if you think that was "outplay" rather than a massive gamble you need to take off your biased goggles. Shiori, I normally agree with you, but a hidden CC is a good plan against protoss. Most standard builds are so thin on units and rely on turtling, sneaking in a CC isn't bad if you plan to deal with it once it is found. Losing is getting outplayed. I didn't say it was a bad idea. I said it's basically a build order win. I mean, yes, Naama obviously deserved to win the game, but there wasn't any showcase of immense skill to "shut up the haters" or whatever. The skill that that was showcased was strategy - which was probably done before the match.
Doesn't really seem like a deep/impressive strategy to me, especially when it's been around for a long, long time. Like, all I'm saying that if you want something to justify Naama being really good, or whatever, hiding a 3rd CC certainly isn't it.
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After watching a lot of replays, I don't understand why Protoss doesn't go for a well executed 4 gate pressure after expansion against Naama. Cloak would not be in time (after expansion) to kill or damage the protoss even with a very delayed robotics and 1 or 2 bunkers can be easily broken by the 4 gate pressure with chrono'ing the gates.
Makes me wonder. Does any Protoss want to give me info on that?
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Okay well the french decided to go ahead and get fOrGG to start his match with PuMa on their stream, no english coverage of it.
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