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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 31 2012 00:27 GMT
#161
On July 31 2012 09:25 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:21 Noocta wrote:
On July 31 2012 09:18 MCDayC wrote:
Mech actually didn't look bad there, imo that could have swung the other direction if he'd managed to finish the DTs and actually siege up in time.


Hack barely lost to Squirtle with it.
And he beat Lure.

A composition of like 70% hellions 15% Tanks, 15% Ghost is pretty good.

I think far more tanks are needed. 40% Hellions, 40% Tanks, 15% Ghosts, 5% Vikings to manage warp prisms, floating around the map.

I dunno, I'm no pro, but just on the back of games where mass tanks are used lategame, in combination with Ghosts, they seem really effective, the Terran just has trouble quite closing it out.


Yeah I'm probably over reading the hellions numbers.
But the guy was making 12 hellions at a time so.. it got huge pretty quick x)
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 31 2012 00:28 GMT
#162
On July 31 2012 09:26 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:26 Zane wrote:
If NesTea is God, Mvp is Satan. I like it.

Flash is unimpressed.

What kind of kind would get beaten by a terrorist?
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 31 2012 00:28 GMT
#163
On July 31 2012 09:25 Dunmer wrote:
Typical a pro uses a Mech and suddenly everyone thinks its viable as if it was magically buffed all of a sudden. Just because its not used in the GSL.etc does not mean its not viable. Mech just needed some serious looking into, not playing a game and losing and going well its must be because mech is bad. Helions can hurt toss so much, Mass helions can decimate clumped up roaches.


Wait what? No-one even said anything at all about buffs. I think it is universally accepted that mech is unexplored, the question is whether this is due to mech just not being any good or whether the magical formula has not yet been found.

I mean, I do not disagree with what you are saying necessarily, but that was a really random comment...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 31 2012 00:28 GMT
#164
On July 31 2012 09:26 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:26 Zane wrote:
If NesTea is God, Mvp is Satan. I like it.





Flash is unimpressed.


Flash is dead, Fantasy killed him.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 31 2012 00:28 GMT
#165
On July 31 2012 09:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 31 2012 09:25 Porcelina wrote:
Ooooh I like this analogy. Nestea being God, Mvp being Satan. Hmmm.

So should we be worried that Satan has a winning record vs god?


It is just like real life omg omg...

:D
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 00:29:52
July 31 2012 00:29 GMT
#166
All I know is, unless HOTS changes significantly, when HOTS comes out I'm switch race and be meching like hell in all matchups.

And I ain't making no mutherfuckin' warhounds.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
July 31 2012 00:30 GMT
#167
On July 31 2012 09:27 Antithesis wrote:
I think Doa and KevinKnocke are a more harmonizing duo than TB and Knocke... TB's style is kind of too outspoken for IPL I feel.


I feel Doa and Kevin are too "anything could happen" while TB is slightly too cynical which is refreshing IMHO.


On July 31 2012 09:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 31 2012 09:25 Porcelina wrote:
Ooooh I like this analogy. Nestea being God, Mvp being Satan. Hmmm.

So should we be worried that Satan has a winning record vs god?


MVP mentioned he hasn't won against Nestea inhouse for a while during one of his GSL interviews iirc.
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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 31 2012 00:30 GMT
#168
On July 31 2012 09:29 MCDayC wrote:
All I know is, unless HOTS changes significantly, when HOTS comes out I'm switch race and be meching like hell in all matchups.

And I ain't making no mutherfuckin' warhounds.

In that case I'll switch to toss and ruin your fun with my 22 range tempests.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 31 2012 00:30 GMT
#169
On July 31 2012 09:30 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:29 MCDayC wrote:
All I know is, unless HOTS changes significantly, when HOTS comes out I'm switch race and be meching like hell in all matchups.

And I ain't making no mutherfuckin' warhounds.

In that case I'll switch to toss and ruin your fun with my 22 range tempests.

T_T !!

Yeah, that may be a problem....
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 31 2012 00:31 GMT
#170
On July 31 2012 09:25 Dunmer wrote:
Typical a pro uses a Mech and suddenly everyone thinks its viable as if it was magically buffed all of a sudden. Just because its not used in the GSL.etc does not mean its not viable. Mech just needed some serious looking into, not playing a game and losing and going well its must be because mech is bad. Helions can hurt toss so much, Mass helions can decimate clumped up roaches.


Mech may be viable, but if there is a better composition (such as bio-viking), then it still will never be used.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 31 2012 00:31 GMT
#171
On July 31 2012 09:30 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:29 MCDayC wrote:
All I know is, unless HOTS changes significantly, when HOTS comes out I'm switch race and be meching like hell in all matchups.

And I ain't making no mutherfuckin' warhounds.

In that case I'll switch to toss and ruin your fun with my 22 range tempests.


I for one would like to see these mech vs rush to Tempest games in action!
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-31 00:35:13
July 31 2012 00:31 GMT
#172
On July 31 2012 09:28 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 09:25 Dunmer wrote:
Typical a pro uses a Mech and suddenly everyone thinks its viable as if it was magically buffed all of a sudden. Just because its not used in the GSL.etc does not mean its not viable. Mech just needed some serious looking into, not playing a game and losing and going well its must be because mech is bad. Helions can hurt toss so much, Mass helions can decimate clumped up roaches.


Wait what? No-one even said anything at all about buffs. I think it is universally accepted that mech is unexplored, the question is whether this is due to mech just not being any good or whether the magical formula has not yet been found.

I mean, I do not disagree with what you are saying necessarily, but that was a really random comment...


I mean that because people all of a sudden realise mech can be viable because they see a pro use the strategy, it feels like it got buffed of a sudden, I am kind of mad because I mech/sky like every game and I can win with it. But on the forums people tell me its not viable and it only works against noobs. Which is a fair statement but then they are gobsmacked when a pro uses it.

And yes Bio-viking is more viable(at this moment in time), nobody disputes that. But you have to be in Taeja mode or your opponent will probably win. By this I mean the terran has to play alot faster and precisely or his army melts.

Lets keep the strategy discussion out though or it will turn to balance whine
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 31 2012 00:32 GMT
#173
Mmm. No Robo versus Cloak about to complete...
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
July 31 2012 00:35 GMT
#174
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
July 31 2012 00:36 GMT
#175
On July 31 2012 09:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?


Not going to lie.

No.
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 31 2012 00:36 GMT
#176
On July 31 2012 09:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?

A couple of them went to the late game, one where Illusion went mech, but he didn't have the multitasking to pressure at the front and deal with DT drops, and so both lost his army and his economy in both games.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 31 2012 00:36 GMT
#177
On July 31 2012 09:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?


Squirtle and Illusion generally play on relatively even terms until the lategame, where Squirtle just ends up overrunning Illusion.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
July 31 2012 00:36 GMT
#178
On July 31 2012 09:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?


Not really sadly. It's pretty much been a stomp
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 31 2012 00:38 GMT
#179
First the fight club event with Hero/DRG/MMA, now this...

Is it just me or is IPL matching Illusion with impossible odds? I understand that they want to support upcoming NA talent, but maybe a small reality check is in order.
BeyondCtrL
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden642 Posts
July 31 2012 00:38 GMT
#180
On July 31 2012 09:35 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Just tuned in, and it looks like Squirtle has been slaughtering Illusion. Were any of the games close?


Not really. There was one even game, but it was due to Squirtle slacking.
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