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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#961
On July 30 2012 04:39 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:38 NeonFox wrote:
Why is Naniwa playing so bad? Very far from his usual self.

Naniwa's personality and mindset plays hugely in his games. When he sees someone as a great player, he turns it up. When he sees them as bad, not only does he have a hard time taking them seriously, but he ALSO doesn't seem to put out the best builds. And this is something seen in many other situations. When other Code S players play in online cups or lower-tier tournaments, we don't see them do the same unbelievably refined, exact builds that we see in Code S. They don't use strategies that they spent weeks perfecting for something other than Code S. And this is something seen not only in Naniwa, but other players too. Naniwa considers himself a code S player first. He will travel to other tournaments, but Code S is the core objective in his career. Its no surprise that he did some really basic, by the book, predictable builds up til now.

Lets be honest. If you were a consistent Code S RO8 player and you were playing against someone you've never even heard of, would you be using your PvZ strats you intended to use in code S? I never even heard of this guy. He's playing well, and I agree that Naniwa misread the situation, but I think its a valid point to bring up how code S is played and how that compares to other methods of training.


It's not even the builds, on Metropolis he didn't scout and didn't see he could have won the game, instead dancing around, wasting forcefields, focusing a hatch until it had 30% and then stopping even though he could have finished it. This last game he attacked with stalkers with all his archons/immortals sitting behind, he blinked into a bunch of infested terrans and spines, he had horrible timings and position.

I remember his series against Nestea and DRG for exemple, not in Code S but still incredibly crisp play and perfect micro. Maybe he is tired or something, but this was definitely not his usual level of skill.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#962
MajOr just got free win for round of 8, congrats to him.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#963
On July 30 2012 04:43 luke3920 wrote:
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On July 30 2012 04:42 andis35 wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:42 Dexington wrote:
What a baby. Just gg and leave.

Best foreigner? Not a chance, not even close.



Yeah, 2x Code S Ro8 is nothing


His Top8 finishes were based on excellent play in PvP and PvP...

To be fair, those are both pretty hard matchups.
The frumious Bandersnatch
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#964
Match of the night incooooooooooming.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#965
On July 30 2012 04:42 setzer wrote:
lol

Idra: congrats you play protoss
Naniwa: congrats you play zerg

Congrats to JRecco even if he is a total Stephano clone.


At least you can see that Idra is smart when he speaks, Naniwa on the other hand...
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#966
Noooooo, NaNiwa .

EZ4ENCE
Braric
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada184 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#967
On July 30 2012 04:43 luke3920 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:42 andis35 wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:42 Dexington wrote:
What a baby. Just gg and leave.

Best foreigner? Not a chance, not even close.



Yeah, 2x Code S Ro8 is nothing


His Top8 finishes were based on excellent play in PvP and PvP...


a balanced matchup
"Hoodor" -Hodor
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#968
Lategame struggles vs Z is showing too much in Naniwas choice of builds and decisions. Seems like he's lacking the confidence in the matchup, and his outbursts seem to mirror this =/
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#969
Very well played by JonnyREcco. His tactical movement and decision making is top notch. Allways positioning well, Allways flanking. He has allways the right units at the right time, knows exactly when to drone. One of the best Zerg plays I've seen so far by a non-GSL player.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#970
Naniwa so disappointing, losing in the first round...
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#971
I want to see a naniwa vs idra showmatch right now.
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#972
On July 30 2012 00:32 Crais wrote:
NaNiwa < JonnyREcco
Kas > fraer
Keen > Welmu
Life > elfi


Quoting myself! Gogo my bracket
RIP MBC Game Hero
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#973
nani always provides high quality entertainment
EGM guides me
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#974
1 / 4 on my liquibet and bracket for today, 4/5 in games so far. Not bad, not bad.

Curse you Retje, I was hoping for a win!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
luke3920
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom182 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#975
On July 30 2012 04:43 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:42 MCDayC wrote:
Congrats for Jonny! For the right reasons as well, he played very nicely.


Not particularly. He pretty much just massed up roaches, defended pressure and then maxed on brood lords off of 3 base economy in most of the games.


I guess you missed the EXCELLENT scouting timed to perfection, or the EXCELLENT use of fungal...
Not write me more about balance, or next time i kick you ass
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#976
On July 30 2012 04:44 dragonborn wrote:
MajOr just got free win for round of 8, congrats to him.


You mad? Recco ZvT is sick.
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 19:45:37
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#977
On July 30 2012 04:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 04:40 Linwelin wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:39 Braric wrote:
On July 30 2012 04:38 Antithesis wrote:
Why didn't Naniwa take a 4th?
Why didn't Naniwa do some harass?
Why didn't Naniwa add stargates?


because you can't afford that against Zerg, protoss units are way to expensive


You can't afford take a 4th or harass?

You can't do everything, simultaneously as some retards seem to think you can, to paraphrase:

"OH WHY DIDN'T NANI GET 5 BASES AND MOTHERSHIP IN THAT GAEM, OMG HE'S BAD'

That said he could have played a ton better, I don't really like these big blink stalker/immortal pushes without some kind of option to zone out infestors, be they templar for the feedbacks or collosi to snipe them.

That's not paraphrasing, that's inventing things nobody said or implied. Nobody said he had to do everything and nobody said he was bad, they just wondered why he didn't do something of the options given. As you say yourself, he did need another option.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#978
I expect naniwa to be telling his next zerg opponent to apologise for playing that race.
Glorious SEA doto
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#979
I love Naniwa, but going for a 3 base timing vs a 4base zerg without a single bit of splash damage just isn't going to work. If you max out with no colossus, templar, or stargate tech vs a maxed zerg you will lose. Pretty disappointing play from Nani
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Blardy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
July 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#980
Starting to regret buying a TSL4 ticket if we have more people like recco.
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