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Zeaket
Profile Joined June 2011
United States208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 19:34:10
July 22 2012 19:33 GMT
#1681
On July 23 2012 04:30 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:28 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:27 MCDayC wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:26 nojok wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:24 illsick wrote:
poor oz, he did the hard work by knocking out stephano

alicia got lucky avoiding stephano

No it's fair.

Everyone had an equal chance to randomly have a bracket which avoided Stephano, therefore its fair.

People had seeds, in your scenario it would only be fair if there were an unlimited amount of tournaments.

Everyone had the equal chance to be born in a country thats not korea so has a better ability to qualify in a tournament which gives them a higher seed?


can't argue this

let's go taeja let's go
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
July 22 2012 19:33 GMT
#1682
Haitch Dee pass lol.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#1683
On July 23 2012 04:32 sAsImre wrote:
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On July 23 2012 04:29 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:27 nojok wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:27 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:26 sAsImre wrote:
Taeja is so fucked by MLG's rules, no advantage and he might be the only one out /w only one series lost...


NOT TRUE.

If he loses the first Bo3, he gets a second one. If he wins the first Bo3, he goes through.

He wins his bracket final & then lose in the grand final, lose only one serie.

Just as alicia.


if Oz had won would've been quite unfair. Still just doing a simple double elim format and accepting that the final might suck or doing single elim /w bo5 would be way better...

That's true but it didn't happen. I just think this format sucks. They want a meaningful final and that is not feasible with extended series.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
July 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#1684
On July 23 2012 04:30 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:28 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:27 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:25 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:21 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:20 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:18 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:16 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:12 sam05396 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
[quote]

Extended series advantage...


that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If he had not dropped a game to Oz earlier, he would have a 2-0 advantage, which means he only has to win 2 games across the entire series and his opponent has to win 4.

Compare to Taeja, who could lose the first series 2-1, and then has to win 2 games in the next Bo3 to advance, for 3 total.

Best advantage goes to person with extended series.

that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If you come from the winners bracket against someone who you haven't played against, you get a second Bo3 if you lose the first.

If you play against someone who you've already played against, you have to win 2 games in a Bo3. You don't get an additional advantage because that advantage is already better than just the winners bracket one.

So you just lose the winner bracket advantage?


No, you're not given one because you already have a BETTER advantage. Win 2 games at ANY time and you win. The winner bracket advantage may require you to win 3 games.

You still lose the winner bracket advantage.


Your statement is absolutely meaningless. It's like saying getting a 120 euro prize instead of a 100 dollar prize sucks because you lose your 100 dollar prize.

It's like if you win €50 and then the next day €100 and you suddenly loose the €50 that's not fair.


no it is not, it is like if u earn 50 dollars but they are willing to give you 100, so instead of picking 50 or 100 dollars u think u should be able to pick 150 dollars
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#1685
On July 23 2012 04:33 Fragile51 wrote:
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On July 23 2012 04:32 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
First has to win 2 bo3's? After winning through all of the loser's bracket I don't think he should be placed at a disadvantage...


NO

NO

NOT AGAIN

NO

it's not as bad as the first 10 pages when people kept asking if Oz had beaten Stephano 2-1 in the loser's bracket at some point off stream because they didnt understand extended series even though it's about half the posts there ^^
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#1686
On July 23 2012 04:32 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
First has to win 2 bo3's? After winning through all of the loser's bracket I don't think he should be placed at a disadvantage...


you know it's not a penalty to come from the lb but a chance that Taeja might use? And extended series bullshit means that he'll be ahead if he wins the 1st bo3.
Zest fanboy.
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
July 22 2012 19:35 GMT
#1687
That poor probe, I wanted it to get home.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#1688
On July 23 2012 04:28 Scribble wrote:
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On July 23 2012 04:25 MCDayC wrote:
All this conversation about bad games has made me all nostalgic. I love terrible scrappy games, they're the best!

Idra vs Chickencombo from open season 2 (right?) where ChickenCombo tries to battlecruiser rush him on Scrap Station.


"Luckily it turns out Queens can kite Battlecruisers so I won."

Probably a slight misquote, but that interview was a classic. Nothing on the Davit interview, of course. If you want soul crushing awfulness in StarCraft form, that's what you need.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#1689
First's probes are good but it's no FXOtear.
Glorious SEA doto
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 22 2012 19:36 GMT
#1690
On July 23 2012 04:34 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:30 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:28 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:27 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:25 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:21 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:20 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:18 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:16 yeint wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:12 sam05396 wrote:
[quote]

that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If he had not dropped a game to Oz earlier, he would have a 2-0 advantage, which means he only has to win 2 games across the entire series and his opponent has to win 4.

Compare to Taeja, who could lose the first series 2-1, and then has to win 2 games in the next Bo3 to advance, for 3 total.

Best advantage goes to person with extended series.

that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If you come from the winners bracket against someone who you haven't played against, you get a second Bo3 if you lose the first.

If you play against someone who you've already played against, you have to win 2 games in a Bo3. You don't get an additional advantage because that advantage is already better than just the winners bracket one.

So you just lose the winner bracket advantage?


No, you're not given one because you already have a BETTER advantage. Win 2 games at ANY time and you win. The winner bracket advantage may require you to win 3 games.

You still lose the winner bracket advantage.


Your statement is absolutely meaningless. It's like saying getting a 120 euro prize instead of a 100 dollar prize sucks because you lose your 100 dollar prize.

It's like if you win €50 and then the next day €100 and you suddenly loose the €50 that's not fair.


no it is not, it is like if u earn 50 dollars but they are willing to give you 100, so instead of picking 50 or 100 dollars u think u should be able to pick 150 dollars

The rules don't say:
If their are extended series in the bracket finals then the player from the winners bracket has no other advantage. Your argument doesn't apply to this situation.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 22 2012 19:37 GMT
#1691
Why does MLG do this to us? Why dont they use rules in a loser bracket like everyone else? Every MLG people are getting aggrevated and start to argue about the extended series instead of just enjoying the games.
I dont understand what they get out of that.

Is it that they dont want to admit how dumb their system was in the first place?
Off-season = best season
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#1692
Seriously, how do you get your warpgates to look like on the premium stream?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
July 22 2012 19:38 GMT
#1693
On July 23 2012 04:37 Redox wrote:
Why does MLG do this to us? Why dont they use rules in a loser bracket like everyone else? Every MLG people are getting aggrevated and start to argue about the extended series instead of just enjoying the games.
I dont understand what they get out of that.

Is it that they dont want to admit how dumb their system was in the first place?


because they dont have a clue what they are doing, it's all trial and error
RawrbHero
Profile Joined September 2010
United States165 Posts
July 22 2012 19:39 GMT
#1694
On July 23 2012 04:32 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
First has to win 2 bo3's? After winning through all of the loser's bracket I don't think he should be placed at a disadvantage...

<_< So Taeja gets a disadvantage because he has never lost a game and wont get his second shot like First did? Yeah, makes sense....
Its not today that im worried about, but tomorrow that scares the shit out of me...
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 22 2012 19:39 GMT
#1695
"he can't drop while attacking"
taeja drops while attacking
can i get my estro logo back pls
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
July 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#1696
Great multi-tasking drops by TaeJa.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
July 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#1697
Loving Taeja's dropship play.

I feel like, with Apollo, Day9 is a lot more analytic. This is the Day9 I like hearing as a commentator.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
July 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#1698
Flubbed emp? He took out 2 sentries energy.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#1699
Sexy snipes by Taeja
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
July 22 2012 19:42 GMT
#1700
Taeja is so fucking good, my favourite Terran.
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