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Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#761
On July 23 2012 02:11 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:03 DwD wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MuseMike wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:01 DwD wrote:
And this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER make carriers

?


If Stephano had 5 more corruptors he would've died. They are sooo weak for the investment you make

5 more corrupters? Oz had like 12-13 carriers left. We only saw one clump on screen.


He had 7. Still would have won the fight though
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Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#762
On July 23 2012 02:10 Quintum_ wrote:
Those Carriers seemed to melt so fast, seemed like he almost got broken. Without the dts i think oz might of lost. Mass VRs would do just as good in that situation and i think would of been better.

That is why you need HTs. You either hit feedbacks on the infestors before the ITs come out, or you storm the infested terran eggs, and then suddenly only like 2 carriers die. The problem was Oz didn't really have anything there to kill the infested terrans in a timely fashion, so they were able to kill a whole lot before he pulled his carriers back out of their range.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#763
On July 23 2012 02:11 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:04 Ziggitz wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
How are there so few posts in this thread? O_o

Insane game. So well played by Oz.


It's because of posts like this that I stopped coming to live report threads. Oz did not play amazingly well. Stephano misread his build and Oz executed a build that any low masters player can execute. Because Stephano cut essentially 10 drones or so to produce those lings that couldn't attack, the game was over at that point. Everything else was superfluous.

Too bad most low Masters players play less predictably than Stephano does. Maybe he should actually practice rather than relying on 1 build to win him everything.


Agreed with this. While Stephano does well tactically on the map, it always seems like he just does the same build over and over. Finally a toss caught on and made him pay for it.


Heh, and I got all this shit for saying that yesterday. Give people time to prepare builds and they'll run him over.
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#764
On July 23 2012 02:10 Quintum_ wrote:
Those Carriers seemed to melt so fast, seemed like he almost got broken. Without the dts i think oz might of lost. Mass VRs would do just as good in that situation and i think would of been better.


Yeah, if you support them with colossi or Templar against infested Terrans, I think there is nothing a Void Ray can't do, that a Carrier does....
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#765
Ryanung.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 22 2012 17:13 GMT
#766
Well, a 5-6th place one week after the NASL victory, still a good result. It wasn't a great Stephano this weekend. Great job Oz !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#767
On July 23 2012 02:11 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:03 DwD wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MuseMike wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:01 DwD wrote:
And this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER make carriers

?


If Stephano had 5 more corruptors he would've died. They are sooo weak for the investment you make

5 more corrupters? Oz had like 12-13 carriers left. We only saw one clump on screen.


What? No way.. He lost surely some 10~ when the fight was over. There is no way he had 23 of them in the start
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#768
That was such a beautiful series to watch by OZ!! He picked stephano apart like a protoss surgeon. Just unbelievable play by OZ!!
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#769
On July 23 2012 02:13 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:10 Quintum_ wrote:
Those Carriers seemed to melt so fast, seemed like he almost got broken. Without the dts i think oz might of lost. Mass VRs would do just as good in that situation and i think would of been better.


Yeah, if you support them with colossi or Templar against infested Terrans, I think there is nothing a Void Ray can't do, that a Carrier does....

how bout surviving fungal?
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#770
I wish I could see how much the viewer number drops after Stephano has been eliminated, I wont be watching since the koreans left don't interest me whatsoever.
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#771
On July 23 2012 02:12 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:11 Chytilova wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:10 ACrow wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:08 Dfgj wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:07 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:04 Hassybaby wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:03 Coffin wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MuseMike wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:01 DwD wrote:
And this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER make carriers

?


He is right actually, they were falling so fast, that investment could have proved fatal in a closer game I think.


Start of fight: 27 Corrupters with infested Terran support vs 13 Carriers
End of fight: 4 Corrupters vs 7 Carriers

.....

Yeah, 3-3-3 upgrades carriers ARE cost efficiently. The upgrades are a must though.

Er

I tried maxed 3-3-3 carriers vs 3-3 corruptors in unit tester, all carriers die, 30% of corruptors die.

But an army maxed out on carriers is something you can actually use, and army solely consisting of corrupters is useless. Not sure what your point is.


This. When has anyone maxed on corrupters?


You understand that corrupters transform into brood lords, yes?


???

Corrupters are not broodlords though. I don't get it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#772
Very nice play by Oz. I wish they would have concentrated a little more on how well he played it out. Stephano could have come back anytime with just one good engagement, so Oz forced that engagement to take place when and where he wanted and with what units he wanted.

Just one thing riddles me. No mothership in the last engagement?
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#773
On July 23 2012 02:13 KonohaFlash wrote:
Ryanung.

Best player in Ireland vs best player in France. They're the only 2 Europeans that are able to consistently compete with top code S Koreans.
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#774
On July 23 2012 02:04 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:02 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
How are there so few posts in this thread? O_o

Insane game. So well played by Oz.

I hope it is because more of the decent people have realized that these threads are only about whining, and stay out of it.

Glad that Oz won 2-0 and extended series did not come into play.


Thank you!! I thought it was an insanely well-played close match on both sides, with an earned "WP WP" to Oz from Stephano. I was rooting for our hero Zerg, but no denying that Oz was just the better player those two games. No excuses for Stephano, although part of me wonders if he is not a morning person, hahaha.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#775
On July 23 2012 02:12 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:11 Chytilova wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:10 ACrow wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:08 Dfgj wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:07 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:04 Hassybaby wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:03 Coffin wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MuseMike wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:01 DwD wrote:
And this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER make carriers

?


He is right actually, they were falling so fast, that investment could have proved fatal in a closer game I think.


Start of fight: 27 Corrupters with infested Terran support vs 13 Carriers
End of fight: 4 Corrupters vs 7 Carriers

.....

Yeah, 3-3-3 upgrades carriers ARE cost efficiently. The upgrades are a must though.

Er

I tried maxed 3-3-3 carriers vs 3-3 corruptors in unit tester, all carriers die, 30% of corruptors die.

But an army maxed out on carriers is something you can actually use, and army solely consisting of corrupters is useless. Not sure what your point is.


This. When has anyone maxed on corrupters?

The question was 'cost effectiveness', so you compare costs.


Oz won with Carriers. Seems cost effective to me.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#776
Alicia in such a good spot to pick up another 2nd place xD!
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eksert
Profile Joined August 2010
France656 Posts
July 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#777
stream down right??? they are at break???
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
July 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#778
On July 23 2012 02:10 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 02:08 Dfgj wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:07 HolydaKing wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:04 Hassybaby wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:03 Coffin wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:02 MuseMike wrote:
On July 23 2012 02:01 DwD wrote:
And this is why you NEVER NEVER NEVER make carriers

?


He is right actually, they were falling so fast, that investment could have proved fatal in a closer game I think.


Start of fight: 27 Corrupters with infested Terran support vs 13 Carriers
End of fight: 4 Corrupters vs 7 Carriers

.....

Yeah, 3-3-3 upgrades carriers ARE cost efficiently. The upgrades are a must though.

Er

I tried maxed 3-3-3 carriers vs 3-3 corruptors in unit tester, all carriers die, 30% of corruptors die.

But an army maxed out on carriers is something you can actually use, and army solely consisting of corrupters is useless. Not sure what your point is.


Yeah good point, even if you win that battle you are dead cause you have 100+ supply in a completely useless unit.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
July 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#779
Aww too bad. Well at least europeans can get good sleep tonight.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 22 2012 17:15 GMT
#780
On July 23 2012 02:14 eksert wrote:
stream down right??? they are at break???

My stream is still up
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