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Mackus
England1681 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:35 Xpace wrote: Wut? I thought the Terran Hope was Byun. it was then seed happened | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:34 ritzia1 wrote: The big problem with Terran air is that it also requires 3/3 air upgrades with PDD to combat Zerg air. It's possible to beat Zerg with that specific army, but it takes much much longer to aquire which is why you only see it on the biggest maps of SC2. Not to mention the transition to it can be quite scary since it requires so many starports. I wonder how gamebreaking it would be for mech upgrades to apply to air. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: lol could you imagine Zerg going from that 300 army push (with extra larvae) to a 400 army push (by just having a few extra macro hatches and queens late game)? yep lol the higher the supply the more powerful zerg is late game. for army remax zerg>protoss>terran and zerg can tech switch much easier than other races. that ultra switched/remax just killed taeja | ||
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dcsoda
United States583 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:30 captainshards wrote: I have been a fan of professional SC since the early broodwar days. To me, extreme bias by casters etc is not only annoying, it is extremely disrespectful to the other player. Competition is fine. Fans are fine. Even a few jabs here and there are fine. But this overly exaggerated worship of Stephano simply because hes a non-korean who plays well is really embarrassing to me. Maybe people need someone like themselves (non-korean) to cheer for, and thats fine. But its getting really old by now. I feel you're opinion is being extremely skewed by the fact that you don't want Stephano to win. This is nothing new in sports. If someone you don't like is doing well it always seems like he's getting too much praise and coverage for their actual accomplishments (Tim Tebow or any NFL QB at this point?). Personally I don't think this has been nearly as bad as some other sports. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45707 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:34 Shellshock1122 wrote: fast roach max in zvp... 300 food at like the 15 min mark lol Oh my god O.O lol Ret overdroning to 250 though... | ||
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Fig
United States1324 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:32 chambertin wrote: He definitely, def., def. didnt have enough time to get out Raven/BC, jesus with air ups and the raven ups that shit takes forever... Well it's all how you play the other part of the game. Seems like Taeja likes getting early gasses right? He also likes killing creep tumors right? Well instead of using a ton a scans to clear them, use mules to get more minerals and use your gas to get a raven! Not like he doesn't have starport with tech lab. He even made banshees early on. Just get a raven, and then you can get a second raven, and a third. And since they take so long, they won't really eat into any of your resources, except your huge gas bank. That's how you do it early enough | ||
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mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:31 Mackus wrote: IM with a big showing without Nestea, MvP or Seed. Makes you wonder how they they failed miserably in the team leagues. They did reasonably well in the KSL before going out and are doing fine in tac3, gstl was a failure but do remember that losira nearly allkilled tsl during the gstl before symbol turned on his magic for the reverse all kill. IM is not great in team leagues but they can generally hold their own. Still good to see Losira tearing it up again and First showing off why you should pay attention to him in tsl4. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:34 HolyArrow wrote: Well, that's what happens when one foreigner stands out above all the rest. People need someone to cheer for, and massive amounts of bias and fanboyism is annoying, but sadly inevitable. If we lived in some alternate universe in which the things Stephano has done was instead performed by some random Code B Korean who hasn't been in the GSL yet, it would be interesting to see if people would still try to call him the best/one of the best players in the world. It is all about making Stephano a hero of the foreigners of sorts, who represents the struggles of foreigners against the "faceless" Koreans. It is a lot easier to hype and love the rock star of SC2 rather than a quiet, non-English speaking Korean who is simply set on winning and gaining money. Yes, the Stephano worship is getting ridiculous, but don't blame the casters when basically all foreigners want Stephano for his symbolism. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:34 Shiori wrote: They wouldn't. First has been crushing his way through this MLG so far and so has Taeja. Don't see anyone salivating over their every move. Well, I'm talking about the entirety of Stephano's achievements (not just this tournament), which includes beating players like MC, Hero, Parting, Puma, JYP, Ganzi, Polt, etc. | ||
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:32 TheHova wrote: I wish BCs/Ravens and Carriers were as accessible as Broodlords are. Feel so sorry for Terran in this matchup... ty bro ^^ well taeja played extremely well. he prepared for broods as good as possible. how the hell is he supposed to have like 20 marauders out 1min after the broods are dead to fight all those ultras while having 20 useless vikings as well? he wasn't even able to drop efectiveley becaus losira played flawles and defended his expansions so well. the only mistake he made was the angagement with his broodlords but as the game unfolded you could even say the broodlord loss was intentional. just lol... | ||
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Oh my god O.O lol Ret overdroning to 250 though... I wanna see what Freaky would do with 300/300 infestors | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:35 WigglingSquid wrote: I would say he did. Even then, he only won because Losire fungaled just once and flew his corruptors over free marine fire. You're telling me he needed 27 vikings... AFTER like 4 or 5 died to the army? So he had 32 vikings... that's more food invested in anti-broodlord/corrupter than there were food in BL/Corrupter. Originally I thought it was a mistake but the more I think about it I'm starting to convince myself that Losira intentionally did it to free up supply for Ultras O_O | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:35 sam05396 wrote: well stephano is ridiculously good and wins from situations that no one else does, and him being the only foreigner to be able to consistently defeat koreans obviously warrants praise The problem isn't with him having fans, that's fine The problem lies with: Stephano burrows an ultra "OH MY GOD STEPHANO.. BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD!!".. Stephano lands a fungal "Jesus christ this is so good, DRG is a scrub compared to this" and all such ridiculous things, it's annoying. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:24 Shiori wrote: How the fuck did you get that from his post? I'm pretty sure nobody has an orgasm every time MC blinks a Stalker, especially not the casters. You can't deny that the amount of Stephano-affection from players and casters alike is huge and gets pretty ridiculous at times. Yes, it goes completely overboard - both the cheering and the booing. But it's the same thing for all the 'great' players. DRG looses two matched in a row and there's a fan collection of pictures of sneakers to show support. Mkp had a fan collection of money to send him to a mlg. MC, well, he's not the best example. But think of the adoration Hero recieves. My point is that stephano's fans are no different than the supporters of other players. Casters do tend to like him - he often stands out as lone foreign representative in later stages of tournaments and he's a bit of a character as well. There's lot to talk about and right at this moment it's hard to see a zerg more successful. That is extraordinary for a player training in Europe. Of course there is gonna be a lot of buzz around him. It's unavoidable that there will be some kind of identification from both casters and fans. The less riled about it you get, the more enjoyable the LR-threads will be. You can't control peoples enthusiasm and yelling back just makes everything worse. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:26 Seiferz wrote: I agree. I can't understand these people who complain about "bias". I imagine that every time Stephano does something well, they cringe or something like that. It's a game and a cast, just take it for what it is. Haters cannot stand players getting praised. It adds to their bitterness. They want a haters commentary where players get constantly bashed every time they do something. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:37 GwSC wrote: Should have just built some Ravens against ultraling? how would that help ... | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
On July 22 2012 10:32 frogrubdown wrote: Four days ago on Live On Three he said he wouldn't take it. I don't know what interview you're talking about. this interview: http://aaa.eu/news-22627-0-1-stephano_la_longue_interview_des_wcs.html (can't manage to find the exact moment) but the other guys might be right, could be season 5, not 4, but even stephano didn't look sure | ||
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