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On July 21 2012 07:21 Maddhatter1 wrote:
who the hell hired fucking goswser as an analyst anyways.
Also they should only have one analyst in front of that screen, it's too awkward with two, they're in each others way and are just fiddling their hands nervously when not speaking
the rise of goswer is kind of random, has he won anything?
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On July 21 2012 07:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:19 Reaps wrote:On July 21 2012 07:17 turdburgler wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 BBMorti wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 Kieofire wrote:
HerO somehow staying in this game. >.> He has better micro and better composition. The game would have already been over if he didn't let 50 banes run aroudn his army and kill 75% of his workers. Those two statements doesn't really support each other =P Cyto seemed to be playing a bit with Hero in the end to be honest.. it is hard to throw such a wicket lead he won by that probe explosion. cytoplasm made +10 large mistakes hero made 1 large mistake but because the way the game is hero was just dead the whole game  its a shame but id be suprised if hero didnt come back from this Losing 40+ probes because he stacked them all on gas was kind of a bigger mistake then most of cyto's. Why are you acting like that was the big mistake? The mistake was forcefield the ramp of the third instead of moving his army back to storm the ling/bane. Once he trapped himself out the game was over.
It was pretty sad when Hero realized it and desperately blinked his stalkers, hoping to stop the bane wave.
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On July 21 2012 07:22 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:21 sekritzzz wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 ImustnotfeaR wrote:On July 21 2012 07:16 Art.FeeL wrote:
here comes weather forecast!!!! yes thats what it should be called! Even weather forecasts are more interesting. This analysis thing is bad. I don't know if you can wrap your head around this but its filling time to get the next game set up. It's either analysis or its looking at artosis and djwheat stalling for time for about 5-10 minutes.
finally someone with a brain.
well said.
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Wtf with the no. of people discrediting his play. No amount of micro can help trade cost efficiently against a protoss that's determined to turtle, except broods. He was lazy to wait for broods and tried to end it early. That's why zerg game design is so fking shit, the only game ending unit is one that needs no micro.
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On July 21 2012 07:22 ratbert wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:19 Fragile51 wrote:
Beat korean protoss
get called bad
standard stephano = mega bad then? :p
The worst, obviously.
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On July 21 2012 07:18 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:15 legaton wrote:
Cytoplasm is plainly bad, he got one lucky shot on the banelings, and destroyed the entire economy of Hero. Too bad SC2 is so unforgiving, in BW, it was easier to overwhelm an inferior player with micro alone. Well, guess Hero shouldn't stack his probes on gases anymore. Oh get outta here, Hero moved out for no reason, had no vision of the path to his third and then for whatever reason forcefielded himself out of his own 3rd and moved all his probes on one geyser when there were banelings incoming. That was just plain bad. The fact that he held on for that long was impressive alone, but he definitely should have lost that game and any arguments how in "bw he probably would have won" are just pathetic, lol.
For no reason? He moved out to take a 4th and get vision of the zergs army. He couldn't get vision the entire time because he continuously had his obs sniped wherever the overseer mutas went which meant the only way he could see his army was with his own. He then placed the FFs because he had ling bling about to smash into his entire army... What else could he do at that point? He HAS to place those FFs or his entire army just dies. In hindsight he probably should have sent 1 stalker out to scout first but in the heat of the moment it's obviously a lot harder to put into practice. You insinuate like he played terribly when he played well but the Zerg just played well too and made a one great strategic move.
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On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh.
Last two matches I know of was a win over DRG and very shortly after a loss to Stephano. What else has happened 'lately' that made him look bad in PvZ? Well except his little probe explosion today =D
Hero is a sick PvZ
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On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC!
MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O
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On July 21 2012 07:19 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Hero is easily top 3 PvZ. MC is another candidate, then Creator/Puzzle.
His 5-2 versus DRG was impressive but he just loss to Min, Stephano 1-3, and Annyeong. And he just hasn't looked good in the matchup. He's not top 3 PvZ at the moment. Squirtle is more than likely better, then probably Creator/Puzzle, with MC almost certainly #1.
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On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms. It is not Cytoplasm's build. It's Symbol's.
Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid.
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On July 21 2012 07:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:19 Reaps wrote:On July 21 2012 07:17 turdburgler wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 BBMorti wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 Kieofire wrote:
HerO somehow staying in this game. >.> He has better micro and better composition. The game would have already been over if he didn't let 50 banes run aroudn his army and kill 75% of his workers. Those two statements doesn't really support each other =P Cyto seemed to be playing a bit with Hero in the end to be honest.. it is hard to throw such a wicket lead he won by that probe explosion. cytoplasm made +10 large mistakes hero made 1 large mistake but because the way the game is hero was just dead the whole game its a shame but id be suprised if hero didnt come back from this Losing 40+ probes because he stacked them all on gas was kind of a bigger mistake then most of cyto's. Why are you acting like that was the big mistake? The mistake was forcefield the ramp of the third instead of moving his army back to storm the ling/bane. Once he trapped himself out the game was over.
Why are we acting like there was just one big mistake?
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Oz, Grubby and Alicia all won, so Protoss is doing pretty well right off the bat. Hero losing would be pretty painful though.
On the other hand, Zerg really needs a win, the LB is all zerg right now
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On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O
Let's be honest.
Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.
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wait a second..you can't go back without premium? I can't go watch cyto destroying heros entire economy from like 10-20 minutes ago or w/e?
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On July 21 2012 07:22 Broodwurst wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:20 SayGen wrote:On July 21 2012 07:17 Nomzter wrote:still having fps issues on the main stream with premium ultra is stable but ultamiate(sp) is laggy. Fix MLG fix. Works fine for me with all three streams open (the other 2 in low quality, but anyway).
Both streams on ultimate no problem!
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On July 21 2012 07:23 BBMorti wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Last two matches I know of was a win over DRG and very shortly after a loss to Stephano. What else has happened 'lately' that made him look bad in PvZ? Well except his little probe explosion today =D Hero is a sick PvZ
he's sick good at PvZ, but he's definitely not the world's best. MC and Squirtle are definitely better atm
Maybe even Seed if you give him enough prep time
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On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms. It is not Cytoplasm's build. It's Symbol's. Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid.
No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently.
And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT.
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On July 21 2012 07:21 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:15 BBMorti wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 Kieofire wrote:
HerO somehow staying in this game. >.> He has better micro and better composition. The game would have already been over if he didn't let 50 banes run aroudn his army and kill 75% of his workers. Those two statements doesn't really support each other =P Cyto seemed to be playing a bit with Hero in the end to be honest.. it is hard to throw such a wicket lead he won by that probe explosion. Hero lost the probes due to a positioning error, not a micro error. No amount of army control matters when your army is lured out of position.
What? Hero mis-microed his army which is why it was out of position in the first place. He also didn't block his choke with a Zealot, Sentry forcefield or Gateway in time, and then he clumped all the Probes on the gas rather than taking them into his main where they would be much safer, he could even have warped in a Sentry in his main and blocked his ramp so nothing got up there. Hero had a lot of chances to prevent what happened and unfortunately he didn't.
On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O Let's be honest. Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.
IM_Seed
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On July 21 2012 07:15 legaton wrote:
Cytoplasm is plainly bad, he got one lucky shot on the banelings, and destroyed the entire economy of Hero. Too bad SC2 is so unforgiving, in BW, it was easier to overwhelm an inferior player with micro alone. Well, guess Hero shouldn't stack his probes on gases anymore.
LOL your kidding me? Oh well, i guess clumping up my probes into a assimilator doesn't make me a bad player when there's clearly 20 baneling rolling in.
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On July 21 2012 07:20 Sc2ttyl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:18 Fragile51 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 legaton wrote:
Cytoplasm is plainly bad, he got one lucky shot on the banelings, and destroyed the entire economy of Hero. Too bad SC2 is so unforgiving, in BW, it was easier to overwhelm an inferior player with micro alone. Well, guess Hero shouldn't stack his probes on gases anymore. Oh get outta here, Hero moved out for no reason, had no vision of the path to his third and then for whatever reason forcefielded himself out of his own 3rd and moved all his probes on one geyser when there were banelings incoming. That was just plain bad. The fact that he held on for that long was impressive alone, but he definitely should have lost that game and any arguments how in "bw he probably would have won" are just pathetic, lol. Its actually completly valid to say that in BW he could have won. The amount of skill in BW is astounding and large maps + microable units make for large skill gaps. One mistake almost never costs you a game in BW where as in sc2 with small maps like these its GG.
No it's not valid to say he would beat him in BW. It's a different game. But I'm pretty sure you could tell me if Cyto would be able to beat Hero in Super Mario Kart?
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