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On July 21 2012 07:22 crazykirsch wrote:
The massive insecurity levels of the hero fanboys is off the charts. Nobody is saying that cytoplasm is a better player than hero, that would be ludicrous. but cytoplasm did capitalize on a big mistake and win this match. I actually really like hero, but everytime your favorite player loses a match, running to the forums and trashing the other player and making excuses is just pathetic
So very very true. Cyto is not deserving of all the shit getting thrown his way because he happened to beat you guys Hero. Class up..
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On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O Let's be honest. Nobody is good vs Zerg right now.
Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.
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On July 21 2012 07:24 oogieogie wrote:
wait a second..you can't go back without premium? I can't go watch cyto destroying heros entire economy from like 10-20 minutes ago or w/e?
Nope. Live rewind is premium only.
It's only $9.99 for 3 days of this. 8 euros, meh.
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Seed is an anomaly. He will fade out soon enough.
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I need a HERO! Im holding out for a HERO till the end of the night!
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On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:21 yeint wrote:On July 21 2012 07:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Reaps wrote:On July 21 2012 07:17 turdburgler wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 BBMorti wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 SafeAsCheese wrote:On July 21 2012 07:10 Kieofire wrote:
HerO somehow staying in this game. >.> He has better micro and better composition. The game would have already been over if he didn't let 50 banes run aroudn his army and kill 75% of his workers. Those two statements doesn't really support each other =P Cyto seemed to be playing a bit with Hero in the end to be honest.. it is hard to throw such a wicket lead he won by that probe explosion. cytoplasm made +10 large mistakes hero made 1 large mistake but because the way the game is hero was just dead the whole game  its a shame but id be suprised if hero didnt come back from this Losing 40+ probes because he stacked them all on gas was kind of a bigger mistake then most of cyto's. Why are you acting like that was the big mistake? The mistake was forcefield the ramp of the third instead of moving his army back to storm the ling/bane. Once he trapped himself out the game was over. Because it was? You have an incoming army of with banelings, you're pulling your probes back, and instead of sending the probes from the nat into the main, you stack EVERYTHING on one gas? He had already lost his third and even if he saved all his probes he would have lost his natural too. As soon as Cytoplasm had free reign in his base the game ended.
His army was very close to the natural at that point, you can't possibly imply that stacking the probes on his gas was not a mistake.
It happens, even to the best.
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On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms. It is not Cytoplasm's build. It's Symbol's. Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid. No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently. And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT.
No, Stephano did not popularize it either, but he was doing it way before Symbol became famous.
Fruitdealer didn't popularize it in ZvT either, he exploited a bug.
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On July 21 2012 07:20 Leyra wrote:Is it just me or are these Threads looking more and more like twitch.tv stream chats? Can't read these without getting a headache at some of the dumb shit people say, lol.
Always happens when an underdog wins, even more so when its a foreigner.
One has to learn to ignore most of the stuff in here, otherwise its not worth it.
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On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O Let's be honest. Nobody is good vs Zerg right now. Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have.
It's not balance whine.
And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.
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On July 21 2012 07:23 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:22 ratbert wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Fragile51 wrote:
Beat korean protoss
get called bad
standard stephano = mega bad then? :p The worst, obviously.
So since Cytoplasm won against Stephano the last time they faced... that would make Cyto ultra mega bad.
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On July 21 2012 07:23 TheHova wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:18 Fragile51 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 legaton wrote:
Cytoplasm is plainly bad, he got one lucky shot on the banelings, and destroyed the entire economy of Hero. Too bad SC2 is so unforgiving, in BW, it was easier to overwhelm an inferior player with micro alone. Well, guess Hero shouldn't stack his probes on gases anymore. Oh get outta here, Hero moved out for no reason, had no vision of the path to his third and then for whatever reason forcefielded himself out of his own 3rd and moved all his probes on one geyser when there were banelings incoming. That was just plain bad. The fact that he held on for that long was impressive alone, but he definitely should have lost that game and any arguments how in "bw he probably would have won" are just pathetic, lol. For no reason? He moved out to take a 4th and get vision of the zergs army. He couldn't get vision the entire time because he continuously had his obs sniped wherever the overseer mutas went which meant the only way he could see his army was with his own. He then placed the FFs because he had ling bling about to smash into his entire army... What else could he do at that point? He HAS to place those FFs or his entire army just dies. In hindsight he probably should have sent 1 stalker out to scout first but in the heat of the moment it's obviously a lot harder to put into practice. You insinuate like he played terribly when he played well but the Zerg just played well too and made a one great strategic move.
He's gonna take a 4th when there's a massive ling bane muta army just outside his 3rd? Yeah that seems like a very wise thing to do. Also, overseers have nothing whatsoever to do with vision in that path, he should have a zealot/pylon/probe/whatever out there in case that cyto is coming around through that area. That is something you should expect from a player of Hero's level.
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On July 21 2012 07:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 spilledmilk wrote:
wow Cytoplasm had a crazy cool build. I liked the aggressive nature. I think it threw Hero off. Was a very good game, and I thought Hero was going to take it when he was getting crazy storms. It is not Cytoplasm's build. It's Symbol's. Stephano was doing ling/infestor/ultra long before Symbol even showed up in Iron Squid. No one was doing that in ZvP until very, very recently. And Fruitdealer was the guy who popularised it in ZvT. No, Stephano did not popularize it either, but he was doing it way before Symbol became famous. Fruitdealer didn't popularize it in ZvT either, he exploited a bug.
Show me some games in tournaments where Stephano uses Ultra/Ling/Bane/Infestors vs Protoss.
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Is "Awkward" the latest buzzword or something?
The analysis seems fine to me. Nothing awkward about it. It could stand to be tweaked so each person is standing on an end as to not cover anything, but otherwise everything is good.
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On July 21 2012 07:24 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:23 BBMorti wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Last two matches I know of was a win over DRG and very shortly after a loss to Stephano. What else has happened 'lately' that made him look bad in PvZ? Well except his little probe explosion today =D Hero is a sick PvZ he's sick good at PvZ, but he's definitely not the world's best. MC and Squirtle are definitely better atm Maybe even Seed if you give him enough prep time
Seed is 100% better he is the best PvZ right now. Hero went 1-2 against Curious on the same day that Seed 4-0'd him. 4-0in'g a Zerg as strong as Curious is amazing.
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On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O Let's be honest. Nobody is good vs Zerg right now. Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have. It's not balance whine. And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.
ryung
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Guys can we stop the HerO topX PvZ. Can we just agree his a very good protoss player who made a very big mistake... You know what. I heard Flash once missplaced a marine. It was horrific. Now get over it.
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On July 21 2012 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:25 Reaps wrote:On July 21 2012 07:24 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 21 2012 07:23 Chicane wrote:On July 21 2012 07:22 polyphonyEX wrote:On July 21 2012 07:21 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 Asha` wrote:On July 21 2012 07:19 JJH777 wrote:On July 21 2012 07:18 Heavenlee wrote:On July 21 2012 07:15 hifriend wrote:
he just beat the best PvZ:er in the world and some people are calling him bad lolz Best PvZer, wat? Yeah Hero has not looked good in PvZ lately tbh. Almost nobody looks consistently good in PvZ lately Seed SKMC! MC keeps getting knocked out of tournaments by Zergs though. :O Let's be honest. Nobody is good vs Zerg right now. Clueless and a balance whiner, damn thats a bad combo to have. It's not balance whine. And feel free to tell me a player who doing really well vs Zerg at the moment.
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On July 21 2012 07:25 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 07:24 oogieogie wrote:
wait a second..you can't go back without premium? I can't go watch cyto destroying heros entire economy from like 10-20 minutes ago or w/e? Nope. Live rewind is premium only. It's only $9.99 for 3 days of this. 8 euros, meh.
Thats pretty lame..it wasn't like that for other mlgs, and that was like a main thing that was great for them.
bah
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On July 21 2012 07:25 SayGen wrote:
Seed is an anomaly. He will fade out soon enough.
He's been around since early 2011. wtf are you talking about
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