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On July 16 2012 03:23 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 03:20 GeorgeH wrote:On July 16 2012 03:17 Derrida wrote:
wow when did the starcraft community evolve into a bunch of snob-elitist people who can't even watch another e-sports candidate game constructively for 1 hour? I guess they were looking for an excuse to bash on another game when all the BW players said similar things about SC2. People don't seem to understand that a game that requires less skill =/= trash. For example football (soccer) is the most popular sport but it is by no means the most difficult sport to master. Depends what you mean with master: play at a decent level? Not too hard (although I am terrible at it), but play at a professional level is something else entirely, let alone play the kind of game that the messis of this world can do. It's like saying tennis is easy: it is... but that doesn't make everybody a Roger Federer. EDIT: one thing that makes football such a popular sport is because it is REALLY easy to see what is going on. Starcraft has a similar advantage. Halo/Quake take a lot more effort to figure out why someone is winning. In that respect they are more like baseball that, honestly, is a terrible spectator sport: you really have to know the subtle details to enjoy a game (or just bring a LOT of beer).
I agree with Quake but not with Halo. Halo is really easy to watch as a spectator.
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On July 16 2012 03:43 Chytilova wrote:
So does someone know how close this is to ending?
This is the 3rd map in a best of 5, currently tied at 1-1. So possibly one more map, possibly 2.
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Just logged in, at first sight I thought this was Shootmania, can anyone explain the differences between these 2 games?
I don't follow the FPS scene much
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Tribes would be an incredible spectator experience showcasing the unbelievable speed and precision that game takes but as it is, all people new see are a bunch of ants flying across the screen.
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i have no idea wtf is happening, but i like these casters
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this is the perfect time to down some cold MGDs
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As an old Tribes player, I can assure you watching first person would be so overwhelming that first time watchers would be dazed by the speed and clueless about the complexity of player decisions. I agree watching first person is required, but only for players that play themselves at a pretty good level.
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On July 16 2012 03:35 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 03:32 Demonidze wrote:
how the hell NASL thread turned into Tribes vs Sc2 tread ??? o_o You should see threads when game X is being forced on a starcraft stream before the finals, making the SC2 spectators think that they are going through some kind of huge ad before the games they have been waiting for start. LoL finals before SC2 finals in.. was it Dreamhack or MLG? is a good example.
Ya it was dream hack. And then people talked about the viewer numbers falling off after LoL but what they failed to realize was that a lot of the viewers for lol were just waiting for sc2 and didn't even know what was going on in LoL.
I doubt we will ever see the reverse of that where sc2 comes on a LoL stream before a big match.
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Meanwhile in Dota 2...
Puppey pick Mortred hahahahaha
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On July 16 2012 03:42 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 03:36 turdburgler wrote:On July 16 2012 03:09 GeorgeH wrote:On July 16 2012 02:59 turdburgler wrote:On July 16 2012 02:53 Disengaged wrote:On July 16 2012 02:52 turdburgler wrote:On July 16 2012 02:50 ikh wrote:On July 16 2012 02:43 turdburgler wrote:
first impression of tribes. super basic fps game that is fast paced to hide the fact it takes 0 skill. theres no team work because theres only 1 way to run the flag and its instant return for defence. its simply a race to kill off the enemy team all at the same time and then you just run away with the flag. wow, that's actually a ridiculously inaccurate first impression to get  well explain why im wrong, it doesnt look like ctf it looks like team elimination. the objective isnt to run the flag because its impossible to run a flag if anyone on their team is alive, you die so fast. so infact the goal is to kill their entire team at the same time then run a token flag unopposed across the map. oh and suddenly theres a plane, ok. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. what part of first impressions and please explain it to me are you struggling with. if no one who plays this game is willing to explain it what am i supposed to take away beyond, oh a plane. last cap, from my perspective. he runs in a perfectly straight line down a straight map and the only person who tries to shoot him tries to shoot him while hes jumping (air behind him) rather than into the hills, where the explosion will deal damage off the floor. so a guy just runs across the map and people who are terrible in terms of fps mechanics all miss him and for some reason 2 people were in planes. help me understand this massive skill cap they keep talking about because i dont see it Hey, bro. I just watched this game called Starcraft 2. I personally found it pretty boring and don't understand why it's so popular. All I did was watch two guys make an army and attack each other and that was it. They also do this thing where they just spam making boxes at the beggining of the game. Why do that? Also, apparently there's more than 3 types of unit for each race (Terran, Protoss, and some other alien race who has a hot girl as their leader), but I don't understand why the game developers bothered to put them in since they were never used (maybe for Single Player?). It seems like I could just take a couple of weeks playing the game before I can be as good as them... very funny, except this is a starcraft orientated site watching a starcraft league. if you want people on teamliquid to understand a random game being played at nasl you need to do a better job than LOL BUT ITS HARD TO SHOOT. On July 16 2012 03:26 imallinson wrote:On July 16 2012 03:21 L3g3nd_ wrote:On July 16 2012 03:17 Derrida wrote:
wow when did the starcraft community evolve into a bunch of snob-elitist people who can't even watch another e-sports candidate game constructively for 1 hour? we are watching a sc2 stream not a tribes stream. We are watching an NASL stream which isn't exclusively SC2. what exactly do you think nasl stands for I'm betting you think SC2 is the pinnacle of skill in competitive video games. LOL
I dunno about him, but I don't. However, It's at or near the top. What can you name that takes so much skill and rewards all races/factions/classes so equally for practice? Brood war.. I can't think of any off the top of my head. Im pretty sure MOBA games arent the pinnacle of skills just because you cant play any class and be just as good with each, some are OP, some are shit. shooter games have a low skill cap relative to all other games just because you only have to focus on teamwork, reflexs, some mindgaming. fighting games take just as much if not more skill then Starcraft, but once again its not as closed to balanced as Starcraft is,
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guys, quick question. who's the dj again? the casters keep mentioning the name but i keep forgetting D:
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On July 16 2012 03:45 setzer wrote:
Tribes would be an incredible spectator experience showcasing the unbelievable speed and precision that game takes but as it is, all people new see are a bunch of ants flying across the screen.
Yeah this is how I feel. I can't focus on anything and the camera jerks and spins so much.
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I didnt see so much discussion and hatred when they played stuff like Quake3 arena during one of the IEM events (dont remember which one was it, think kiev) ... anyway, i find it refreshing to watch something different from time to time, feels refreshing.
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On July 16 2012 03:45 setzer wrote:
Tribes would be an incredible spectator experience showcasing the unbelievable speed and precision that game takes but as it is, all people new see are a bunch of ants flying across the screen.
its not a good esport because it doesnt have the presentation LoL or Starcraft has.
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updated with two more vid
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On July 16 2012 03:47 Chytilova wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 03:45 setzer wrote:
Tribes would be an incredible spectator experience showcasing the unbelievable speed and precision that game takes but as it is, all people new see are a bunch of ants flying across the screen. Yeah this is how I feel. I can't focus on anything and the camera jerks and spins so much.
I got vertigo yo.
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Always a bummer when you turn in for some SC2 but they show Quidditch instead
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On July 16 2012 03:46 Derrida wrote:
As an old Tribes player, I can assure you watching first person would be so overwhelming that first time watchers would be dazed by the speed and clueless about the complexity of player decisions. I agree watching first person is required, but only for players that play themselves at a pretty good level.
It doesn't matter if people don't know what's going on at first. You need to make it seem complex to a new viewer, and then they'll be interested in finding out why it's complex. If you just show them something that looks very basic, chances are they will write it off as a basic game.
Do you know how many people first got interested in BroodWar because they saw a FPVOD of Nada or iloveoov? The insanity is what draws people.
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On July 16 2012 03:49 Pey wrote:
Always a bummer when you turn in for some SC2 but they show Quidditch instead
Haha
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On July 16 2012 03:49 Pey wrote:
Always a bummer when you turn in for some SC2 but they show Quidditch instead
lol
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