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Vargavaka
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden111 Posts
July 10 2012 14:21 GMT
#41
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

Because in this stage of the tournament it's split in two parts (one for the Kespa-players and one for the non-Kespas).
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
July 10 2012 14:31 GMT
#42
Go Byun! Go Mvp! Go DRG!
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#43
On July 10 2012 23:21 Vargavaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

Because in this stage of the tournament it's split in two parts (one for the Kespa-players and one for the non-Kespas).

nono, it's because each group is
Match 1: A vs B
Match 2: C vs D
Match 3: Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2 ---> Match 3 Winner advances
Match 4: Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2
Match 5: Match 3 Loser vs Match 4 Winner ---> Match 5 Winner advances

this format is known as 'dual tournament' haha
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 10 2012 14:39 GMT
#44
On July 10 2012 23:36 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 23:21 Vargavaka wrote:
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

Because in this stage of the tournament it's split in two parts (one for the Kespa-players and one for the non-Kespas).

nono, it's because each group is
Match 1: A vs B
Match 2: C vs D
Match 3: Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2 ---> Match 3 Winner advances
Match 4: Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2
Match 5: Match 3 Loser vs Match 4 Winner ---> Match 5 Winner advances

this format is known as 'dual tournament' haha


Basically GOM format but Bo1 =/
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#45
On July 10 2012 23:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 23:36 opterown wrote:
On July 10 2012 23:21 Vargavaka wrote:
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

Because in this stage of the tournament it's split in two parts (one for the Kespa-players and one for the non-Kespas).

nono, it's because each group is
Match 1: A vs B
Match 2: C vs D
Match 3: Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2 ---> Match 3 Winner advances
Match 4: Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2
Match 5: Match 3 Loser vs Match 4 Winner ---> Match 5 Winner advances

this format is known as 'dual tournament' haha


Basically GOM format but Bo1 =/


GOM used this format for an entire year, but it originated from OGN.

I think Bo1 is fine in BW, because it's not as random as SC2 can be. Bo1 is not that great for SC2 as it was for BW.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 14:49:47
July 10 2012 14:48 GMT
#46
EDIT: cba
I'm Jeff Goldblum
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2715 Posts
July 10 2012 15:05 GMT
#47
On July 10 2012 23:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 23:36 opterown wrote:
On July 10 2012 23:21 Vargavaka wrote:
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

Because in this stage of the tournament it's split in two parts (one for the Kespa-players and one for the non-Kespas).

nono, it's because each group is
Match 1: A vs B
Match 2: C vs D
Match 3: Winner of 1 vs Winner of 2 ---> Match 3 Winner advances
Match 4: Loser of 1 vs Loser of 2
Match 5: Match 3 Loser vs Match 4 Winner ---> Match 5 Winner advances

this format is known as 'dual tournament' haha


Basically GOM format but Bo1 =/


Dual Tournament format is used in OSL and MSL long time ago before GOM used it, lol.

And maybe I exagerated with 50% luck, but Bo1 Groups is much Luck-based in SC2 that in BW.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 10 2012 15:12 GMT
#48
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


Running this format in a complete different game.

There is a good reason why GOM moved away from BO1s entirely.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 10 2012 15:14 GMT
#49
I can understand tradition, but it's a pity that they stuck with bo1s imo. OSL may be the better tournament overall and with a ton more history, but the current GSL Code S format is the grand prix of giving everyone a chance and ensuring that the best player on the day advances. Unfortunately, this is not.

I predict players getting cheesed out and lots of whining/bans to follow.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 10 2012 15:15 GMT
#50
It's gonna be cool to watch these players in an OGN production.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 10 2012 15:16 GMT
#51
On July 10 2012 23:06 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:41 thragar wrote:
On July 10 2012 22:14 haitike wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.



It is not a poor format. Bo1 groups was fair in BW and always worked fine.

OGN still dont know well SC2 and that it is a game based 50% in Luck...


50% luck with 3 people winning 9 GSLs. Okay.

Edit: grammar.


Yeah I don't agree with the 50% Luck but Bo1s have no place in SC2.

How many of those GSLs have Bo1s? Not many. Which is the point of this conversation.

Bo1s in SC2 is absolutely horrible.


Yes, looked at versus any one player it is a Bo1..but in the overall context every player is essentially playing a Bo3, albeit possibly against varying players from their group.
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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
July 10 2012 15:16 GMT
#52
Yeah, bo1 is bad. Everyone knows how easy it is to lose one game in SC2. Not even due to big mistakes.

Does anyone know why ESportsTV is blocked in Germany? Never been able to watch the livestream. I know there will be restreams or something but still...
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 15:17 GMT
#53
I could see the players having a lot of respect for the tournament so much that barely any of them end up cheesing, maybe.
Would be a shame to see 2rax all day every day (although only three terrans).
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 10 2012 15:18 GMT
#54
I haven't seen San play in ages. He's had a real roller coaster of a career in SC2. In honor of the old days, when GSL was first starting I hope that San crushes both DRG and Symbol to rise to the top of his group.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 15:21 GMT
#55
when do the awesome intro/hype videos come out? RO32 ODT or RO16 only? haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 10 2012 15:27 GMT
#56
On July 10 2012 23:12 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c

ever heard of double elimination?
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
July 10 2012 16:08 GMT
#57
I'm really sad that this is that close and yet there's still no sign of English commentary.
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
July 10 2012 16:18 GMT
#58
What, I thought it won't start until September or October.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
July 10 2012 16:29 GMT
#59
Korean tournaments usually go for quality, not quantity of games. If they show this on TV, then it's a stupid idea to have bo3. It would take up all the broadcasting hours of other games. Realize that their TV channel is not just for Starcraft. They have other games to broadcast, too. If you have a bazillion games played, then they would go down in history as just a bunch of games, which is hard to remember whether one is epic or not. With fewer number of games, epic games will be remembered forever.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2715 Posts
July 10 2012 16:52 GMT
#60
On July 11 2012 01:08 aristarchus wrote:
I'm really sad that this is that close and yet there's still no sign of English commentary.


Their main audience is Korea. A TV channel get more viewers that a internet stream. But I guess they will get english casters soon (I personally dont care, If casters are not Artosis/Tastelees I prefer korean casters to the other ones).

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