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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 10:33:10
July 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#21
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
July 10 2012 10:34 GMT
#22
what about Kespa players?
where I can find more details about OSL ?
hello
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 10:35 GMT
#23
On July 10 2012 19:34 Fanek wrote:
what about Kespa players?
where I can find more details about OSL ?

kespa prelims are on the 19th. 12 will come from there to make their own dual tournament
check OSL on liquipedia I or II?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 10:37:04
July 10 2012 10:35 GMT
#24
On July 10 2012 19:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
they gave the worst maps to DRG's group as well

Antiga, Ohana AND entombed
.,...are you fucking kidding me?!

Someone at OGN must really hate good gsl zerg players.

...
Ohana:
TvZ: 44-40 (52.4%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 38-41 (48.1%) [ Games ]
PvT: 40-38 (51.3%) [ Games ]

Antiga:
TvZ: 84-79 (51.5%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 61-50 (55%) [ Games ]
PvT: 73-77 (48.7%) [ Games ]

Entombed:
TvZ: 34-49 (41%) [ Games ] (this really surprised me, I actually did think it would be a terran map too lol)
ZvP: 49-51 (49%) [ Games ]
PvT: 55-67 (45.1%) [ Games ]

Poor zerg indeed.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 10:38:34
July 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#25
On July 10 2012 19:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:34 Fanek wrote:
what about Kespa players?
where I can find more details about OSL ?

kespa prelims are on the 19th. 12 will come from there to make their own dual tournament
check OSL on liquipedia I or II?


so this is mean GSL and Kespa players will be play 2 separate tournaments?
or they will be mix just in playoffs, what's about that?
hello
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 10:38 GMT
#26
On July 10 2012 19:38 Fanek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:35 opterown wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:34 Fanek wrote:
what about Kespa players?
where I can find more details about OSL ?

kespa prelims are on the 19th. 12 will come from there to make their own dual tournament
check OSL on liquipedia I or II?


so this is mean GSL and Kespa players will be play separate tournaments?
or they will be mix just in playoffs, what's about that?

they will mix in the RO16 i think
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
July 10 2012 10:42 GMT
#27
On July 10 2012 19:38 opterown wrote:
they will mix in the RO16 i think

ok thanks

don't find any info about that, but you probably have right. Maybe it's good decision, Kepsa players got more time to prepare against GSL monsters
hello
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 10:49:20
July 10 2012 10:48 GMT
#28
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.

moo...for DRG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 10:58 GMT
#29
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.

not sure that it's so much tradition - it has worked for ten years. no reason why it shouldn't now =]
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 10 2012 11:00 GMT
#30
On July 10 2012 19:24 opterown wrote:
i think it's BO1, yeah o.O hence the two groups per day

osl has always worked this way.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 10 2012 11:01 GMT
#31
On July 10 2012 19:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.

not sure that it's so much tradition - it has worked for ten years. no reason why it shouldn't now =]



Well things work, but doesn't mean there isn't something better out there.

Horses work as a mode of travel for thousands of years.
It wasn't until the 20th century that the world switched to cars simply because it is better.
moo...for DRG
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 10 2012 11:15 GMT
#32
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.


or players would have to prepare thrice as much to avoid those random shit (or you mean, in other words, cheese?). Yeah, if there was so much "random shit" in the OSL, would dominant players exist after all? Would Flash/JangBang/fanta make to tving semis?
better player will have bettter preparation (look at mvp last GSL). If you have 2 weeks in advance to prepare for two bo1s and still lose, then you suck
And Im not mentioning about things like timeslot, programs schedule etc which a cable tv station like OGN has to consider
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 11:30 GMT
#33
sooo i wonder if anyone noticed a small change to the TLPD links
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 10 2012 11:40 GMT
#34
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


BW and SC2 are different games. The better player was usually able to win more often because as the game went on, despite any build order disadvantages or blind counters, the higher skillcap meant that better players usually still came out in the end.

In SC2 you could lose a game in some matchups just from a build order loss, which is why Bo3 is usually preferrable.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
July 10 2012 13:14 GMT
#35
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.



It is not a poor format. Bo1 groups was fair in BW and always worked fine.

OGN still dont know well SC2 and that it is a game based 50% in Luck...
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 13:32:09
July 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#36
On July 10 2012 19:35 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:
they gave the worst maps to DRG's group as well

Antiga, Ohana AND entombed
.,...are you fucking kidding me?!

Someone at OGN must really hate good gsl zerg players.

...
Ohana:
TvZ: 44-40 (52.4%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 38-41 (48.1%) [ Games ]
PvT: 40-38 (51.3%) [ Games ]

Antiga:
TvZ: 84-79 (51.5%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 61-50 (55%) [ Games ]
PvT: 73-77 (48.7%) [ Games ]

Entombed:
TvZ: 34-49 (41%) [ Games ] (this really surprised me, I actually did think it would be a terran map too lol)
ZvP: 49-51 (49%) [ Games ]
PvT: 55-67 (45.1%) [ Games ]

Poor zerg indeed.

Seems like OGN picked the most balanced maps for the most part, although the Entombed win/rate for TvZ also really surprised me. TvZ winrate on Antiga is dropping quite consistantly of late.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#37
i hope we see some OGN-made maps soon :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 13:42:42
July 10 2012 13:41 GMT
#38
On July 10 2012 22:14 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.



It is not a poor format. Bo1 groups was fair in BW and always worked fine.

OGN still dont know well SC2 and that it is a game based 50% in Luck...


50% luck with 3 people winning 9 GSLs. Okay.

Edit: grammar.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 14:07:30
July 10 2012 14:06 GMT
#39
On July 10 2012 22:41 thragar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 22:14 haitike wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:48 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On July 10 2012 19:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
... Yeah because the fact that OGN has been running this format for a decade means nothing.

lol

People complaining about Bo1s were always wrong anyway.


I disagree.
Tradition is not a valid excuse for having a poor format....(or most anything in life for that matter).
GSL's current group system is better because it cuts out all the random shit that occurs in a best of one.



It is not a poor format. Bo1 groups was fair in BW and always worked fine.

OGN still dont know well SC2 and that it is a game based 50% in Luck...


50% luck with 3 people winning 9 GSLs. Okay.

Edit: grammar.


Yeah I don't agree with the 50% Luck but Bo1s have no place in SC2.

How many of those GSLs have Bo1s? Not many. Which is the point of this conversation.

Bo1s in SC2 is absolutely horrible.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
July 10 2012 14:12 GMT
#40
Can someone explain to me why it's called "Dual Tournament" ?
I don't understand it :c
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