DBS adds a bunker ni his natural and a Ractor for a Factory switch. sLivko going 4 Queens.
DBS builds a Starport and a tech lab. sLivko takes third Hatch, which is scouted by Hellions.
Banshee and cloak incoming for DBS. Roach Warren for sLivko with speed on Lings.
DBS scans and engages Queens to take out creep spread. Double evo started, Banshee tech not scouted yet.
3rd CC, bio +1 upgrades and stim incoming. Baneling nest for sLivko with +1 +1 melee upgrades.
sLivko is hit at third with cloaked Banshee's with no detection available. Queen and several Drones die before Banshees are pushed away, both survive.
Infestation pit completes for sLivko and he blocks the third for DBS with Creep. Drop on the third and Banshees in the main of sLivko.
4th incoming for sLivko on the right. Drop at third kills Spores, bansheees move over from the main to take advantage but get caught by Infestors so damage limitted.
sLivko going Hive with +2 +2, bane Speed and burrow inc and Spire. Creep reaching half way across the map. 3rd established for DBS. Drops at main and 3rd of sLivko with landed Viking support, but are reasonably held.
Roach, Bane Infestor to defend until brood Lords. DBS moving forward with bio , medivacs and Siege Tanks.
DBS sets up at the 4th and upon moving in to it is attacked from 3 sides with a lot of Infested Terrans, but the Tank line makes a huge difference. 4th still under threat Broods inc.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
How can anyone be "the best player in the history of the game" if the game is a joke? I don't think that's possible.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
Oh just shut the fuck up already, MVP played bad, monchi beat him, end of story. No need to fill up 30 pages with whining imbalance over that.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
Upsets happen though, in all sports. Look at Nadal in his most recent tournament. He got knocked out by someone who's barely known at all. Nobody was like "Tennis is a joke sport! Nobody should ever play it again!"
If upsets are happening all the time then maybe there's an argument to be made - and that may be the case. But one bad day for Mvp doesn't make all of SC2 a joke, there needs to be a pattern observed first.
DBS builds a Starport and a tech lab. sLivko takes third Hatch, which is scouted by Hellions.
Banshee and cloak incoming for DBS. Roach Warren for sLivko with speed on Lings.
DBS scans and engages Queens to take out creep spread. Double evo started, Banshee tech not scouted yet.
3rd CC, bio +1 upgrades and stim incoming. Baneling nest for sLivko with +1 +1 melee upgrades.
sLivko is hit at third with cloaked Banshee's with no detection available. Queen and several Drones die before Banshees are pushed away, both survive.
Infestation pit completes for sLivko and he blocks the third for DBS with Creep. Drop on the third and Banshees in the main of sLivko.
4th incoming for sLivko on the right. Drop at third kills Spores, bansheees move over from the main to take advantage but get caught by Infestors so damage limitted.
sLivko going Hive with +2 +2, bane Speed and burrow inc and Spire. Creep reaching half way across the map. 3rd established for DBS. Drops at main and 3rd of sLivko with landed Viking support, but are reasonably held.
Roach, Bane Infestor to defend until brood Lords. DBS moving forward with bio , medivacs and Siege Tanks.
DBS sets up at the 4th and upon moving in to it is attacked from 3 sides with a lot of Infested Terrans, but the Tank line makes a huge difference. 4th still under threat Broods inc.
DBS isn't able to deal any damage to the 4th before Broods finish. All but 1 Brood killed but DBS army pushed back and a lot killed. 130 DBS supply to sLivkos 170. Both take an extra base.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
Oh just shut the fuck up already, MVP played bad, monchi beat him, end of story. No need to fill up 30 pages with whining imbalance over that.
very convincing argument
That wasn't an argument.
you told people to shut up and gave a premise for why they should shut up. it was, again, a very convincing argument.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
so the game is a joke if the best player plays bad and can lose games? seems legit.
And yet there are games where this does not happen. BW and Quake Live for instance. Make all the excuses you want, it IS very easy to lose to an inferior player in SC2.
On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote: I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them.
*sobsobsob* my hero played bad and lost vs someone *sobsobsob* fuck this game *sobsobsob*
On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote: I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them.
Maybe you should watch more Starcraft if you don't know Monchi.
Banshee and cloak incoming for DBS. Roach Warren for sLivko with speed on Lings.
DBS scans and engages Queens to take out creep spread. Double evo started, Banshee tech not scouted yet.
3rd CC, bio +1 upgrades and stim incoming. Baneling nest for sLivko with +1 +1 melee upgrades.
sLivko is hit at third with cloaked Banshee's with no detection available. Queen and several Drones die before Banshees are pushed away, both survive.
Infestation pit completes for sLivko and he blocks the third for DBS with Creep. Drop on the third and Banshees in the main of sLivko.
4th incoming for sLivko on the right. Drop at third kills Spores, bansheees move over from the main to take advantage but get caught by Infestors so damage limitted.
sLivko going Hive with +2 +2, bane Speed and burrow inc and Spire. Creep reaching half way across the map. 3rd established for DBS. Drops at main and 3rd of sLivko with landed Viking support, but are reasonably held.
Roach, Bane Infestor to defend until brood Lords. DBS moving forward with bio , medivacs and Siege Tanks.
DBS sets up at the 4th and upon moving in to it is attacked from 3 sides with a lot of Infested Terrans, but the Tank line makes a huge difference. 4th still under threat Broods inc.
DBS isn't able to deal any damage to the 4th before Broods finish. All but 1 Brood killed but DBS army pushed back and a lot killed. 130 DBS supply to sLivkos 170. Both take an extra base.
Ling attack forces lift on the new 4th. Army cleans up the attack though, but mining delayed.
On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote: Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series.
I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.
Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.
Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.
I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.
I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.
Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...
The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have.
And I say this as a huge Mvp fan.
Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming.
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