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DIMIAGA SOLOCASTING STREAM 2. This will be fucking amazing : D
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On July 07 2012 05:43 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote:
I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them. Maybe you should watch more Starcraft if you don't know Monchi.
I watch a lot of SC2 and BW and I've never heard of Monchi.
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DBS playing pretty good vs Slivko.
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On July 07 2012 05:43 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... Upsets happen though, in all sports. Look at Nadal in his most recent tournament. He got knocked out by someone who's barely known at all. Nobody was like "Tennis is a joke sport! Nobody should ever play it again!" If upsets are happening all the time then maybe there's an argument to be made - and that may be the case. But one bad day for Mvp doesn't make all of SC2 a joke, there needs to be a pattern observed first.
quoted for fucking truth. sc2 comm just too immature
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Someone bring Happy back plx?
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happy probably just needed to throw up and will brb
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On July 07 2012 05:44 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:43 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:41 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:40 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:37 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:37 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:35 Iyerbeth wrote:
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DBS scans and engages Queens to take out creep spread.
Double evo started, Banshee tech not scouted yet. 3rd CC, bio +1 upgrades and stim incoming. Baneling nest for sLivko with +1 +1 melee upgrades. sLivko is hit at third with cloaked Banshee's with no detection available. Queen and several Drones die before Banshees are pushed away, both survive. Infestation pit completes for sLivko and he blocks the third for DBS with Creep. Drop on the third and Banshees in the main of sLivko. 4th incoming for sLivko on the right. Drop at third kills Spores, bansheees move over from the main to take advantage but get caught by Infestors so damage limitted. sLivko going Hive with +2 +2, bane Speed and burrow inc and Spire. Creep reaching half way across the map. 3rd established for DBS. Drops at main and 3rd of sLivko with landed Viking support, but are reasonably held. Roach, Bane Infestor to defend until brood Lords. DBS moving forward with bio , medivacs and Siege Tanks. DBS sets up at the 4th and upon moving in to it is attacked from 3 sides with a lot of Infested Terrans, but the Tank line makes a huge difference. 4th still under threat Broods inc. DBS isn't able to deal any damage to the 4th before Broods finish. All but 1 Brood killed but DBS army pushed back and a lot killed. 130 DBS supply to sLivkos 170. Both take an extra base. Ling attack forces lift on the new 4th. Army cleans up the attack though, but mining delayed.
4 full Medivacs move in to the main of sLivko and despite going over the the 5th base he doesn't react to it.
Main drop cleaned up but 4th dies in the mean time.
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On July 07 2012 05:43 Toadvine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:39 GuardianEU wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... so the game is a joke if the best player plays bad and can lose games? seems legit. And yet there are games where this does not happen. BW and Quake Live for instance. Make all the excuses you want, it IS very easy to lose to an inferior player in SC2.
Wait what? There are games where the best players don't lose? EVER? Sounds dull.
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On July 07 2012 05:45 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:44 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:43 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:41 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:40 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:37 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:37 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 Iyerbeth wrote:
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3rd CC, bio +1 upgrades and stim incoming.
Baneling nest for sLivko with +1 +1 melee upgrades. sLivko is hit at third with cloaked Banshee's with no detection available. Queen and several Drones die before Banshees are pushed away, both survive. Infestation pit completes for sLivko and he blocks the third for DBS with Creep. Drop on the third and Banshees in the main of sLivko. 4th incoming for sLivko on the right. Drop at third kills Spores, bansheees move over from the main to take advantage but get caught by Infestors so damage limitted. sLivko going Hive with +2 +2, bane Speed and burrow inc and Spire. Creep reaching half way across the map. 3rd established for DBS. Drops at main and 3rd of sLivko with landed Viking support, but are reasonably held. Roach, Bane Infestor to defend until brood Lords. DBS moving forward with bio , medivacs and Siege Tanks. DBS sets up at the 4th and upon moving in to it is attacked from 3 sides with a lot of Infested Terrans, but the Tank line makes a huge difference. 4th still under threat Broods inc. DBS isn't able to deal any damage to the 4th before Broods finish. All but 1 Brood killed but DBS army pushed back and a lot killed. 130 DBS supply to sLivkos 170. Both take an extra base. Ling attack forces lift on the new 4th. Army cleans up the attack though, but mining delayed. 4 full Medivacs move in to the main of sLivko and despite going over the the 5th base he doesn't react to it. Main drop cleaned up but 4th dies in the mean time.
Greater Spire was killed, but sLivko now up 60 supply.
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On July 07 2012 05:44 Swiv wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:43 Swords wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... Upsets happen though, in all sports. Look at Nadal in his most recent tournament. He got knocked out by someone who's barely known at all. Nobody was like "Tennis is a joke sport! Nobody should ever play it again!" If upsets are happening all the time then maybe there's an argument to be made - and that may be the case. But one bad day for Mvp doesn't make all of SC2 a joke, there needs to be a pattern observed first. quoted for fucking truth. sc2 comm just too immature
You're either calling yourself immature, or you're saying that your'e not part of the SC2 community. Just saying.
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On July 07 2012 05:43 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote:
I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them. Maybe you should watch more Starcraft if you don't know Monchi.
Yes I will watch every single european lan, they're just full of bonjwas waiting to break out, serious!
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On July 07 2012 05:41 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:40 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... Oh just shut the fuck up already, MVP played bad, monchi beat him, end of story. No need to fill up 30 pages with whining imbalance over that. very convincing argument
It is stupid to argue. If Real Madrid/Miami Heat/New York Giants lose to some underdog in their respective sport, do you say "Fuck soccer/basketball/football, this game is a joke"?. Everyone loses.
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On July 07 2012 05:43 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:42 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:41 mambar wrote:On July 07 2012 05:40 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
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I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... Oh just shut the fuck up already, MVP played bad, monchi beat him, end of story. No need to fill up 30 pages with whining imbalance over that. very convincing argument That wasn't an argument. you told people to shut up and gave a premise for why they should shut up. it was, again, a very convincing argument.
Nope, still not an argument.
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DBS multitasking and stretching Slivko around the map but nothing is actually touching the borelord deathball so he's about to get crushed by it anyway xD
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On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote:
I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them.
I'm sure you said the same when MC lost to thorzain in TSL3...
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Remember when Spain (the #1 football team in the world) loss to USA?
Or recently Nadal (currently #2 tennis player, formerly #1) loss to Rosol in 2nd round of Wimbleton?
Upsets happen.
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EPT
