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On July 07 2012 05:47 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:45 flodeskum wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote:
I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them. I'm sure you said the same when MC lost to thorzain in TSL3... Or Fruitdealer to Thorzain...
lol where's FD now?
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On July 07 2012 05:46 Yorbon wrote:
Lol @ current discussion.
Btw, who is the lady casting with ret and rotterdam ?
Ret's girlfriend, Pandii
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On July 07 2012 05:45 Asha` wrote:
DBS multitasking and stretching Slivko around the map but nothing is actually touching the borelord deathball so he's about to get crushed by it anyway xD
From what I saw from earlier, he was macroing pretty terribly behind the aggression, massive queues on his production, so thats why he didn't have a huge lead.
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On July 07 2012 05:46 Yorbon wrote:
Lol @ current discussion.
Btw, who is the lady casting with ret and rotterdam ?
twitter.com/LiquidRet's Girlfriend.
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On July 07 2012 05:47 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:45 MCDayC wrote:On July 07 2012 05:43 Toadvine wrote:On July 07 2012 05:39 GuardianEU wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
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I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... so the game is a joke if the best player plays bad and can lose games? seems legit. And yet there are games where this does not happen. BW and Quake Live for instance. Make all the excuses you want, it IS very easy to lose to an inferior player in SC2. Wait what? There are games where the best players don't lose? EVER? Sounds dull. There are games where the skill ceiling is high enough that the best players raaaarely lose to anyone other than eachother. Like BW, or quake 3
Really now? Explain flash having lost games vs tossgirl and multiple games vs stardust then? The best of the best often lose against "inferior" opponents, that's what keeps them interesting.
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On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming.
Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is.
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Looking good for nightend here.
NVM good engagement by Golden
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On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship
I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors.
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On July 07 2012 05:47 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:45 Asha` wrote:
DBS multitasking and stretching Slivko around the map but nothing is actually touching the borelord deathball so he's about to get crushed by it anyway xD From what I saw from earlier, he was macroing pretty terribly behind the aggression, massive queues on his production, so thats why he didn't have a huge lead.
Nah he didn't have a good lead because Slivko played really well up to that point more than anything else.
You just can't trade units for expansions/tech as a counter to hive tech if you can't repop fast enough on appropriate units back home to handle the push when it comes for you.
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On July 07 2012 05:47 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:47 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:45 flodeskum wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 Calis5 wrote:
I really cant take this game seriously when players like MVP lose to no name protoss. Dont even say it was an upset, because we keep getting more of them. I'm sure you said the same when MC lost to thorzain in TSL3... Or Fruitdealer to Thorzain... lol where's FD now?
........This was TSL 3. When FD was still a major contender. And Thorzain was an absolute nobody.
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On July 07 2012 05:43 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... Upsets happen though, in all sports. Look at Nadal in his most recent tournament. He got knocked out by someone who's barely known at all. Nobody was like "Tennis is a joke sport! Nobody should ever play it again!" If upsets are happening all the time then maybe there's an argument to be made - and that may be the case. But one bad day for Mvp doesn't make all of SC2 a joke, there needs to be a pattern observed first.
Even in BW foreigners took games off koreans (although very very rare).
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When did Bling get such bitchin' tattoos?
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On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is.
maybe random foreigners are good as well`?
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On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors.
Mindgames. Obviously. Wonder if there's cheese in rock paper scissor tournaments...would you get cursed at for going 6 scissors in a row? :p
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On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors.
some people are more consistent at bluffing than other peoples.
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What was that tweet they were talking about?
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On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 04:57 Asha` wrote:
Monchi's fast hidden third wins him game 3. Disgusting series. I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners, it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is.
You realize they almost never played vs foreigners, and that the foreigner scene was completely underdeveloped with only a few players. This is not the case at all in SC2.
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Nightend drops game 2 to Golden
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I would rather be in Russia then in some brazilian favella lol...
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On July 07 2012 05:50 Asha` wrote:
Nightend drops game 2 to Golden
ninja edit 
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EPT
