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[TSL4] Qualifier 11 - EU/NA #8 - Page 48

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Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
July 04 2012 23:08 GMT
#941
On July 05 2012 08:08 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:07 Lord_J wrote:
Seeing BabyKnight hold that push even with how badly he engaged, I'm curious how that build is supposed to work for Beasty. Another weird game.

Kind of think he must've thought BK would allin. That build is probably as safe as you can get


Good point, it would definitely have crushed any kind of gateway allin.
No relation to Monsieur J.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 04 2012 23:08 GMT
#942
I keep seeing tanks in TvP and they keep almost being good and then getting crushed.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#943
I think both played very well but beasty's 2base all-in was kind of awkward because of the 3rax1starport was so late but it looked quite good when he tried to attack but the immortal just melt that quite easily. And after that beasty had a hard time catching up to babyK's economy and armé. BabyK showed off some very good play there for sure.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#944
From what I could see in the Byun vs Genius game where the tanks were used, the updgrades don't matter toooo much, obviously they're good, but being sieged up is more important than anything. Byun was trading really well with 2-0 tanks vs 3-3 toss ball, but made 1 positional error and died, the same thing happened here.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#945
On July 05 2012 08:07 Lord_J wrote:
Seeing BabyKnight hold that push even with how badly he engaged, I'm curious how that build is supposed to work for Beasty. Another weird game.


BabyKnight didn't engage well but Beasty's position was even worse. Most of his bio was attacking the 3rd so BabyKnight got all those tanks pretty much for free.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 23:10:22
July 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#946
On July 05 2012 08:08 blacksheepwall wrote:
I keep seeing tanks in TvP and they keep almost being good and then getting crushed.

You just cant leave your tanks exposed to immortals like that. No matter what people feel about siege tanks, beasty fucked up majorly by allowing the protoss to just walk up to the tanks, no matter how terrible of a engagement he gets
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 04 2012 23:09 GMT
#947
Come on beasty! TSL needs its first non-Korean terran qualificant! (Thorzain and Kas excluding)
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 23:11:37
July 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#948
On July 05 2012 08:07 Lord_J wrote:
Seeing BabyKnight hold that push even with how badly he engaged, I'm curious how that build is supposed to work for Beasty. Another weird game.

He didn't have a stim at the time of the engagement, I think the build relies on your opponent scouting it and freaking out while you continue to power up, beasty only lost because of his mistimed stim, but he did freak out BabyK, who didn't really play well.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 23:11:38
July 04 2012 23:10 GMT
#949
On July 05 2012 08:09 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:07 Lord_J wrote:
Seeing BabyKnight hold that push even with how badly he engaged, I'm curious how that build is supposed to work for Beasty. Another weird game.


BabyKnight didn't engage well but Beasty's position was even worse. Most of his bio was attacking the 3rd so BabyKnight got all those tanks pretty much for free.

Aside from the cliff, BK's engage wasn't actually bad at all. He hit the army from behind, engaged with storm and lots against the bio and immortals against the tanks. That's exactly as you would set it up as the protoss. Beasty wasn't prepared for BK to go fight immediately, and also wasn't prepared for his angle of attack.
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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#950
On July 05 2012 08:09 JustPassingBy wrote:
Come on beasty! TSL needs its first non-Korean terran qualificant! (Thorzain and Kas excluding)


Didn't Ret qualify as well?
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#951
cross position this map will def be a long macro game! I'm at least hoping for it with some good harassing and good follow-ups.
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#952
On July 05 2012 08:11 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:09 JustPassingBy wrote:
Come on beasty! TSL needs its first non-Korean terran qualificant! (Thorzain and Kas excluding)


Didn't Ret qualify as well?


yes but he said "non korean terran" ret is zerg
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blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
July 04 2012 23:11 GMT
#953
On July 05 2012 08:09 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:08 blacksheepwall wrote:
I keep seeing tanks in TvP and they keep almost being good and then getting crushed.

You just cant leave your tanks exposed to immortals like that. No matter what people feel about siege tanks, beasty fucked up majorly by allowing the protoss to just walk up to the tanks, no matter how terrible of a engagement he gets

Yeah, Byun (I think?) had a lot more success with them earlier today in the GSL, but it's just so hard to never have your tanks out of position against Immortals and mass Chargelots. Also, if you mostly clean up your opponent's stuff the reinforcement Chargelots tend to crush face.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 04 2012 23:12 GMT
#954
On July 05 2012 08:11 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 08:11 Kilby wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:09 JustPassingBy wrote:
Come on beasty! TSL needs its first non-Korean terran qualificant! (Thorzain and Kas excluding)


Didn't Ret qualify as well?


yes but he said "non korean terran" ret is zerg


Oh yeah, that is true. Sorry.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 04 2012 23:12 GMT
#955
The more I watch and play the game, I feel like Terran is either a 1 base cheese or a fast 3 bases macro play.
Everything in between feel very weak, beside the standart 1 rax FE into 3rax medivacs in TvP I guess.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 23:14:50
July 04 2012 23:13 GMT
#956
YES i love 2gate stalker vs terran

not so good when you forget your proxy pylon though lol
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
July 04 2012 23:13 GMT
#957
btw, dkiller still hasn't got his points on http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague_4/Qualifiers.. don't forget the chobo! :D
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 04 2012 23:14 GMT
#958
Hello latency! ^^
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 04 2012 23:15 GMT
#959
It wouldn't be a Babyk series without a 1 base gateway allin haha. Nice hold by BeastyQT, that SCV scout was KEY
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#960
It looks like Baby is all in.
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