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VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
June 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#3181
On June 18 2012 02:34 manloveman wrote:
Lets go nani. PvP SasevNani finals.


As a Quantic fan, I'm not sure if I would cry or rejoice.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 17:37:35
June 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#3182
On June 18 2012 02:33 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:29 Asha` wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:27 youngminii wrote:
K I'm gonna have to agree with the people saying that this meta is shit.

When will Blizzard stop being stubborn as fuck and finally nerf bio? It's not interesting nor fun nor skillful (well, maybe skillful in some ways) to play/watch. It's become as stupid as Colossi being boring a-move units.


10/10

T shifting into a new meta because they got a massive indirect nerf and have to find different ways to deal with what zergs are capable of now. Must be time to nerf more Terran units to deal with it!

Good point, but my opinion is that since bio is just so much better (in a lot of ways) than mech at the moment, especially with the current meta, all the pros are going to just scrap mech for the most part and play bio, which will lead to staleness and little innovation, since bio is just drops, multitasking and base killing/relentless aggro. Which can sometimes make for good games, but if it wasn't as powerful as it was, Terrans would find a way to make mech work.


There are not many Maps where you can make Mech work. Its just not very good right now . Mech is missing a all-around unit that is not slow as fuck. Very hard to take Expos and actually defend them against Zerg ( PF don't help when Roaches will just 2-shot it ) while you yourself can't do anything against Zerg expos since Helions don't kill anything but Workers.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#3183
On June 18 2012 02:33 ChocoBanana wrote:
so many viewers! like 3x the amount from the first hour


Better time for the americans, instantly helps the viewer count.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
June 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#3184
twitch.tv strikes again ...
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
HeroMystic
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1217 Posts
June 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#3185
On June 18 2012 02:33 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:29 Asha` wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:27 youngminii wrote:
K I'm gonna have to agree with the people saying that this meta is shit.

When will Blizzard stop being stubborn as fuck and finally nerf bio? It's not interesting nor fun nor skillful (well, maybe skillful in some ways) to play/watch. It's become as stupid as Colossi being boring a-move units.


10/10

T shifting into a new meta because they got a massive indirect nerf and have to find different ways to deal with what zergs are capable of now. Must be time to nerf more Terran units to deal with it!

Good point, but my opinion is that since bio is just so much better (in a lot of ways) than mech at the moment, especially with the current meta, all the pros are going to just scrap mech for the most part and play bio, which will lead to staleness and little innovation, since bio is just drops, multitasking and base killing/relentless aggro. Which can sometimes make for good games, but if it wasn't as powerful as it was, Terrans would find a way to make mech work.


Terrans did try to find ways to make Mech work. -_-;

We don't just sit on our ass and go "Welp Blizzard nerfed our tanks better go MMM all day!" It plainly doesn't work vs Protoss and vs Zerg it's 10x harder than Marine/Tank. It only fully works vs T but even Full Bio into Sky Terran puts it on the ropes.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
June 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#3186
On June 18 2012 02:35 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:33 ChocoBanana wrote:
so many viewers! like 3x the amount from the first hour


Better time for the americans, instantly helps the viewer count.


It's still early for people on the West Coast, too, so expect a flood of viewers in a few hours from them.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#3187
On June 18 2012 02:33 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:29 Asha` wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:27 youngminii wrote:
K I'm gonna have to agree with the people saying that this meta is shit.

When will Blizzard stop being stubborn as fuck and finally nerf bio? It's not interesting nor fun nor skillful (well, maybe skillful in some ways) to play/watch. It's become as stupid as Colossi being boring a-move units.


10/10

T shifting into a new meta because they got a massive indirect nerf and have to find different ways to deal with what zergs are capable of now. Must be time to nerf more Terran units to deal with it!

Good point, but my opinion is that since bio is just so much better (in a lot of ways) than mech at the moment, especially with the current meta, all the pros are going to just scrap mech for the most part and play bio, which will lead to staleness and little innovation, since bio is just drops, multitasking and base killing/relentless aggro. Which can sometimes make for good games, but if it wasn't as powerful as it was, Terrans would find a way to make mech work.


It's also a silly cycle when every single zerg out there only plays the same strategy against it > rush to hive while being as greedy as possible.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#3188
On June 18 2012 02:35 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:33 ChocoBanana wrote:
so many viewers! like 3x the amount from the first hour


Better time for the americans, instantly helps the viewer count.


pre-lunch entertainment for those of us out on the east coast and man, its some great entertainment right now.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
June 17 2012 17:36 GMT
#3189
TT Only 1 Korean to make it out of Group B.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#3190
Mech was definitely viable when Siege tanks did 60 flat damage *wink* *wink* Blizz
MMA: The true King of Wings
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#3191
Doesn't spread creep - gets all speed upgrades
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
June 17 2012 17:37 GMT
#3192
Nice to see PuMa going bio mech now on Antiga, really fits his playstyle nicely. Haven't caught many of his games yet this weekend but he hasn't pulled this out at any of his previous tournaments afaik.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
June 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#3193
On June 18 2012 02:37 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Mech was definitely viable when Siege tanks did 60 flat damage *wink* *wink* Blizz

and hellion get +10 from blue flame
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#3194
Snuuuuuuuuuuuuuute vs BratOk starting on imba.tv
Glorious SEA doto
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 17:38:50
June 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#3195
Geofffffffff please stop always yellingggggg

Yelling doesn't make it any more exciting

My poor ears >_<
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
June 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#3196
On June 18 2012 02:36 Woizit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 02:33 youngminii wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:29 Asha` wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:27 youngminii wrote:
K I'm gonna have to agree with the people saying that this meta is shit.

When will Blizzard stop being stubborn as fuck and finally nerf bio? It's not interesting nor fun nor skillful (well, maybe skillful in some ways) to play/watch. It's become as stupid as Colossi being boring a-move units.


10/10

T shifting into a new meta because they got a massive indirect nerf and have to find different ways to deal with what zergs are capable of now. Must be time to nerf more Terran units to deal with it!

Good point, but my opinion is that since bio is just so much better (in a lot of ways) than mech at the moment, especially with the current meta, all the pros are going to just scrap mech for the most part and play bio, which will lead to staleness and little innovation, since bio is just drops, multitasking and base killing/relentless aggro. Which can sometimes make for good games, but if it wasn't as powerful as it was, Terrans would find a way to make mech work.


It's also a silly cycle when every single zerg out there only plays the same strategy against it > rush to hive while being as greedy as possible.



Idk if this is a terran issue, or a zerg issue. I think bio-mech works fine in most MU's if the skill of each person is close. Full mech i think only works in terran.

I think alot of issue with tanks being used in zvt is because of infestor/brood being OP more than tanks sucking.
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 17 2012 17:38 GMT
#3197
On June 18 2012 02:37 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Mech was definitely viable when Siege tanks did 60 flat damage *wink* *wink* Blizz


I think siege tanks should be reverted to the good old 70 damage like in BW if all the changes in HOTS go through. Just about every unit that gets added seem to be about giving siege tanks a hard time :p
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#3198
omg amazing play PUMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#3199
that micro
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 17 2012 17:39 GMT
#3200
OMG amazing micro
Amove for Aiur
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