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rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 01 2012 15:14 GMT
#1301
On July 02 2012 00:11 Morphage wrote:
Btw this isn't a new build that Demuslim invented, MarineKingPrime actually used it against Haypro at an MLG.

It is an old strat used by many terrans. I even saw demuslim describe the rationale behind a build like this many months ago on his stream. He even showed how to deal with moderate amounts of roaches, and pick them of slowly, and why you don't get blueflame early, etc. It is just not a very common strategy.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 01 2012 15:14 GMT
#1302
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
July 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#1303
Well, that was really well done by Demu...:p
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
July 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#1304
Good handling by Recco, impressed.
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
July 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#1305
why fight with hellions vs roaches outside the siegetank range ? .. easy win with better micro gogo devil !
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 15:16:06
July 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#1306
On July 02 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.


Infestors man. What do you do. Happens, come on Demu with bio-tank next.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 01 2012 15:15 GMT
#1307
On July 02 2012 00:13 zezamer wrote:
Does demu even have a starport for the gglords

Upgraded thors deal quite well with broodlords. You only need vikings if there are like 13+ bl, or you don't have upgraded thors.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
July 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#1308
Demuslims face at the end there. Sad Terran.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
July 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#1309
On July 02 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.


Yeah airmech would be good especially against a roach heavy composition.
soupchicken
Profile Joined October 2010
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 15:16:29
July 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#1310
I hate watching Zerg now.

I main Zerg - masters NA, but I can't stand to play Zerg after the patch.

We were in a perfect spot pre-patch. Now it's just way too easy to win ZvT.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
July 01 2012 15:16 GMT
#1311
You don't need blue flame with this build. When you're getting a huge amount of hellions you're going to cook light units at an insane rate with regular flame. You're troubles are going to be with queens crawlers banes and roaches which are better dealt with by tons of regular hellions.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 01 2012 15:17 GMT
#1312
On July 02 2012 00:15 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.


Infestors man. What do you do. Happens, come on Demu with bio-tank next.


You make ghost watch Lucifron and see how its done
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-01 15:18:45
July 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#1313
If DeMuslim had hid the Hellions at the start of the game, there wouldnt have been any Roaches, that should have been a build order win, but he fluffed it exposing his game plan too early
Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
July 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#1314
wow brilliant play by JRecco...great to see Demu pegged back...cmon Jrecco bring it home on the worst balanced map of Shakuras Plateau
kaboombaby
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 01 2012 15:19 GMT
#1315
How is Demu supposed to transition Skymech with 3 reactors already built?
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." - Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 01 2012 15:19 GMT
#1316
I think that kind of doom army absolutely requires support units. A raven just for detection to counter burrow and clear creep during the push?
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 01 2012 15:19 GMT
#1317
One of the problems with mech is that zergs have learnt to use infesters to slow down the push. They will fungal your hellions which slows down the mech army. The counter is tanks but you need to siege and the zerg just moves back and force you to unsiege which slows down the push a lot.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 01 2012 15:20 GMT
#1318
On July 02 2012 00:16 beamingrobot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.


Yeah airmech would be good especially against a roach heavy composition.


Yeah he should totally add 5-6 starports and some armories and add some more air upgrades. Perhpas he could spice it up with ghosts with both upgrades out of 3-4 tech labbed barracks. I'm just unsure whether you should maybe add 3-4 more starports so you can upgrade ravens+medivacs at the same time.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
July 01 2012 15:20 GMT
#1319
Demuslim's main mistake that game was having his army out of position. He had a bunch of tanks and factories rallied to his opponents tower and recco just sidestepped it and pretty much crippled a weakneded demu with that roach counter.

That's it. The build was fine, realy interesting. Recco just saw the hole in demuslims positioning and killed him for it.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 01 2012 15:21 GMT
#1320
On July 02 2012 00:20 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 00:16 beamingrobot wrote:
On July 02 2012 00:14 FeyFey wrote:
nice build by demuslim, but he should have transitioned into air mech, and not thors. Infestor eggs tank to good against pure factory, if the tanks can't attack them.


Yeah airmech would be good especially against a roach heavy composition.


Yeah he should totally add 5-6 starports and some armories and add some more air upgrades. Perhpas he could spice it up with ghosts with both upgrades out of 3-4 tech labbed barracks. I'm just unsure whether you should maybe add 3-4 more starports so you can upgrade ravens+medivacs at the same time.

Don't be silly. He should get ravens and battlecruisers not ravens and medivacs.
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