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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1001
OMG, free entrance to the studio and FREE ICE CREAM? I should be there!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1002
Free food, free entertainment, free shelter, get a few drinks and you could just live in the GOM studio.
Glorious SEA doto
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1003
On June 05 2012 19:53 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 19:51 babysimba wrote:
Zerg should be the race that whine about the queen buff. It affects early game zvz so much :D


Actually true. Only recently started playing again and it has completely messed up my ZvZ. Honestly I don't understand the queen buff.


It weakens the aggressive potential of 14/14 by a lot. You see defensive pool into hatch opening much more often now. Late gas openings which are greedy in the past also become one of the safest openings now, because you can get out more queens out early.
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1004
Symbol should be able to take 2-3 games.

Losira barely won vs Revival, and Symbol is awesome in ZvZ + he is in the winning mood.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 11:02:18
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1005
On June 05 2012 20:00 Azzur wrote:
I don't know why they keep sending out Hyun to lose...

The elephant in the room will show up soon...they're still waiting.

EDIT: accidentally a word
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1006
Poor Khaldor never gets gifts
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1007
who doesn't like ice cream, what a heretic
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
June 05 2012 11:01 GMT
#1008
On June 05 2012 20:00 Destructicon wrote:
I must admit, LosirA looks really impressive, I'm still shocked that he fell into Code B a while ago, the guy has some serious skill, but I guess even the best have their slumps.
I wonder if he can close it out or if Symbol will finally stop him.

I was crushed when he fell into Code B..he'll be back into Code S soon. I hope.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1009
Stone-faced killer
[image loading]
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1010
Khaldor spitting truth, yo
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
vijeze
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands719 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1011
Fuck you Wolf, who doesn't like IceCream?
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1012
On June 05 2012 20:00 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 19:59 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:58 Dalavita wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:56 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:52 Dalavita wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:46 Destructicon wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:40 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:39 Destructicon wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:34 Douillos wrote:
[quote]

Yeah, but polt does seem like th type to not give a damn and somehow win. But yeah i agree, gotta stop letting em drone so hard.


And how do you propose to pressure them now?
With the queen buff zerg can just keep spreading creep so much that it keeps them safe from nearly all attacks, be them helions, banshees or the rare 2 rax.
Polt also couldn't do drops for some part of the game due to the possibility of mutas denying him, or the huge vision that the creep spread + overloard spread offered.

Seriously its like some of you guys don't even think before posting.

If we all think like you this game is fucked. Its like saying, you shouldn't try cheese because a terran might scan anytime. Its called taking a risk. Imbecile.


More like calculated risks, lots of which are now easier to scout by zergs thanks to the speed buff to overlords.
Not saying you shouldn't do anything but its far, far far harder to do anything now to zergs because of the buff, and its too much of a simplistic view to say that you need to do something when you get demonstrations of force like that from LosirA and Yughio.

Perhaps you can point us to a game where a zerg did something similar but got shut down before you go out of your way to call someone an imbecile.

Of course it is harder, that's the main point of a patch isn't it? To make games balance? You might think its balance to have hellions burn 20+ drones with just 4 hellions but I can tell you, in the eyes of blizzard its not. And rightfully so.


The queen buff ruined whatever balance TvZ had. The impetus is on terran t o deal damage to get into the lategame with an advantage, and zergs can simply spam queens to be their defense right now, while also providing ridiculous economy advantages and creep spread on top of that. Added to the fact that maps are now larger and terran's pretty much fucked. I'm sure that's balanced for you.

PS. Do you see terrans bitching that five banelings can kill all your marines if you don't micro properly? Why are you bitching about hellions killing drones if you're to slow to block your ramp?

Funny how so many zergs lost because of hellion runbys and you think its rare that zergs will lose to it. Btw, why don't you point out a terran who loses everything to 5 banelings. Please post a replay. While I can point to the whole gsl before the queen patch to prove hellion runbys actually kills zerg. One example being nestea?


Provide me with replays/VOD that show any recent top level zergs losing to hellion runbys. If it gets patched, surely it's rampant and happens all the time?

I have already stated. Don't you understand english? G-S-L, Leenock vs MMA, Stephano vs Polt. Watch nestea before the patch 1 week later. Now where is your vods where 5 banelings took down a whole army of terran


If you ignore him, he might just go away...

I think i will. No one is gonna spoil my mood today, Im is making me happy today. Liquidbet woohoo!
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1013
Ice cream can be heavy -- and some ppl have a lactose problem.

But to hate the entire fruit foodgroup -- that's insane.
Big water
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4416 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1014
On June 05 2012 19:59 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 19:57 JJH777 wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:55 Breach_hu wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:53 Destructicon wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:46 Destructicon wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:40 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:39 Destructicon wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:34 Douillos wrote:
On June 05 2012 19:33 eFonSG wrote:
Super typical game, player 1 doesnt harass the zerg player. Zerg player doesnt do anything other than drone. Zerg player wins.


Yeah, but polt does seem like th type to not give a damn and somehow win. But yeah i agree, gotta stop letting em drone so hard.


And how do you propose to pressure them now?
With the queen buff zerg can just keep spreading creep so much that it keeps them safe from nearly all attacks, be them helions, banshees or the rare 2 rax.
Polt also couldn't do drops for some part of the game due to the possibility of mutas denying him, or the huge vision that the creep spread + overloard spread offered.

Seriously its like some of you guys don't even think before posting.

If we all think like you this game is fucked. Its like saying, you shouldn't try cheese because a terran might scan anytime. Its called taking a risk. Imbecile.


More like calculated risks, lots of which are now easier to scout by zergs thanks to the speed buff to overlords.
Not saying you shouldn't do anything but its far, far far harder to do anything now to zergs because of the buff, and its too much of a simplistic view to say that you need to do something when you get demonstrations of force like that from LosirA and Yughio.

Perhaps you can point us to a game where a zerg did something similar but got shut down before you go out of your way to call someone an imbecile.

Of course it is harder, that's the main point of a patch isn't it? To make games balance? You might think its balance to have hellions burn 20+ drones with just 4 hellions but I can tell you, in the eyes of blizzard its not. And rightfully so.


From what I've seen only zergs that failed to defend properly or where too greedy had 4 helions get past their defense and roast 20 lings. Matter of fact is the helion pressure was somewhat of a necessity, not to roast drones, but to do indirect damage, keep creep under control, slow down a 3rd force roaches and/or lings instead of drones.


decent zergs could hold anything without any problem with the 3 range queen, now worse than halfdecent zerg could hold anything. now imagine what could a good zerg could do with it.


There must have been 0 decent zergs before the patch then. There was no zerg that could easily hold anything.


there was the kind of a zerg who made only drones and 2 queens and 6 lings againts 4 hellions. thats not enough. 4 hellion was a pressure desinged to slow down zerg on their insane mentality to get 90 drones as soon possible.
if the zerg was careful enough, good simcity (which terrans do all the time) blocks his entrances, made enough units, he couldnt lose againts 4 hellions.


They couldn't lose against them but they could have their third delayed forever and get 0 creep spread until the helions are off the map. That was way too much dmg for a 400 mineral investment that terrans would never lose if they were careful with. Zergs just had their worst GSL season ever. They needed a buff.
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1015
maybe wolf is just traumatized because in his childhood he only had bad ice cream and rotten fruit.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 11:02:59
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1016
On June 05 2012 20:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Symbol can probably beat Losira, then I honestly think IM will throw MVP out

- TSL is on its last leg

- The fans want it, Symbol wants it

- Why the fuck not?


Don't think so. I'd say someone like Seed or Yoda, then Happy, then MVP.

Final boss is Nestea.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 05 2012 11:02 GMT
#1017
On June 05 2012 20:01 1ManArmy wrote:
Symbol should be able to take 2-3 games.

Losira barely won vs Revival, and Symbol is awesome in ZvZ + he is in the winning mood.


As much as I love losira, him loosing would mean us seeing MC or MVP or Nestea... But still, all kill for losira, totally worth it
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
June 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#1018
Wow, looks like LosirA is back in shape
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
June 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#1019
"So you're saying even when you were younger you were paying girls to be nice to you?"

OH SNAP!
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#1020
On June 05 2012 20:02 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Symbol can probably beat Losira, then I honestly think IM will throw MVP out

- TSL is on its last leg

- The fans want it, Symbol wants it

- Why the fuck not?


Don't think so. I'd say someone like Seed or Yoda, then Happy, then MVP.

Final boss is Nestea.


they ve got MC with them to no?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
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