I'd say Stephano DRG vs toss Leenock DRG vs terran Nestea DRG vs zerg
DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.
honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.
Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.
I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.
Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.
Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?
The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?
That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.
The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.
Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.
Because people are stupid as hell. :/
Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?
Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.
and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....
On May 28 2012 08:22 Eraserhead wrote: Is there a reason why Bomber didn't build a Engneering bay to delay squirtle's nexus?
he maybe saw the gateway building a unit before the core was finished. so he thought zealot first which means engy bay block wont be very effective plus he would easily loose his socuting scv.
On May 28 2012 08:28 EleanorRIgby wrote: bomber is raping this protoss scum!!!!
This wasn't too hard imo. Him holding the gateway push was impressive. But mmm with +1/+1 vs pure gateway units with charge and +1/+1 is pretty cake for the bio if they can kite or control the engagement.
I was more impressed with his flank and crazy survive on Ohana
On May 28 2012 08:17 nojok wrote: This defense! So baller to send the army out to win time for bunkers 2&3.
he didn't scout anything, it was the starndard 10:00 2 medivac push out of 1rax FE... squirtle would have won if he went straight attack, go up the ramp and cut off bomber army form his own natural
Bomber scouted everything during this game with his scv at Squirtles third, he even had a nice base tour.... Played perfectly that game
Squirtle is playing so well, but things just aren't going his way. That was so counter intuitive to move out of his base like that when a Terran is prowling around his ramps.
I'd say Stephano DRG vs toss Leenock DRG vs terran Nestea DRG vs zerg
DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.
honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.
Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.
I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.
Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.
Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?
The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?
That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.
The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.
Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.
Because people are stupid as hell. :/
Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?
Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.
and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....
That's why they go to MLG, IPL, NASL and even the RedBull thingie on foreign soil, jetlagged and are still winning?
On May 28 2012 07:50 vinsang1000 wrote: I'm sad for Stephano.
I really think he has to study more diverse strategies for the mid-game to surprise his opponent... If he doesn't do it, his code S spot will no last long...
Now in korea there is a 200/200 roach timing with overlord drop(not even need speed now) that is almost impossible to hold, as you have to defend 3 different places while the ffs are almost useless
IMO this literally is a HUGE problem right now once zergs start learning this
you dont even need roachspeed OR lingspeed, just spend 300/300 on drops and protoss has to defend 3 locations at once while you drop 200food of roach/ling into the toss main at TWELVE MINUTES LITERALLY
honestly lingspeed/roachspeed loses its value after mass forcefields at in play. imo might be better to skip lingspeed and just get droptech for a 200max drop at 12 minutes
this new 200food max + drops strategy thats been going around the korean ladder is KILLER. i agree once stephano starts doing that its gonna be WTFHAX
Well. I guess Protoss is going to get a buff soon then. How the hell do you best that??
PvZ is the matchup where the worst aspects of SC2 design collide, and it appears to constantly find new ways to be retarded. Warpgate all-ins on one hand, and Zerg maxing out with 60 drones at 11:30 on the other, aren't Spawn Larvae and Warpgates fun? I actually hope this turns out to be impossible to defend (which is quite likely, given how difficult it is to defend a standard roach max), just to see Blizzard try to patch it out of the game in some amusing way. Maybe they'll move overlord drop to Hive?
They'll probably have to do that. I don't see any other way to beat that.