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-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 23:29:42
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3181
GG bomber, don't play with gateway/garbage units vs MMM plz Squirtle...
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3182
Squirtle needs to try yet another different timing against Bomber.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3183
On May 28 2012 08:22 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
[quote]

No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Because people are stupid as hell.
:/


Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?

Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.


and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....

JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3184
On May 28 2012 08:28 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber MC final incoming? Damn Bomber...I was ready to write you off again after the up/downs.


Certainly looks like it but remember, never count out Squirtle.
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3185
On May 28 2012 08:28 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber MC final incoming? Damn Bomber...I was ready to write you off again after the up/downs.


Bomber is like...only ever truly good after being discounted. There are a few people like that, but Bomber is the true king of inconsistencies.
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3186
On May 28 2012 08:22 Eraserhead wrote:
Is there a reason why Bomber didn't build a Engneering bay to delay squirtle's nexus?


he maybe saw the gateway building a unit before the core was finished. so he thought zealot first which means engy bay block wont be very effective plus he would easily loose his socuting scv.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 23:29 GMT
#3187
Bomber knows all the secrets to stomping all the STQ Protoss. Rofl. Oh Bomber.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3188
Can Squirtle pull a Byun? >_>
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3189
On May 28 2012 08:28 EleanorRIgby wrote:
bomber is raping this protoss scum!!!!


This wasn't too hard imo. Him holding the gateway push was impressive. But mmm with +1/+1 vs pure gateway units with charge and +1/+1 is pretty cake for the bio if they can kite or control the engagement.

I was more impressed with his flank and crazy survive on Ohana
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3190
On May 28 2012 08:29 babylon wrote:
Bomber knows all the secrets to stomping all the STQ Protoss. Rofl. Oh Bomber.

Give us your secrets bomber!
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Sleed
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada181 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3191
On May 28 2012 08:22 eusoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:17 nojok wrote:
This defense! So baller to send the army out to win time for bunkers 2&3.


he didn't scout anything, it was the starndard 10:00 2 medivac push out of 1rax FE... squirtle would have won if he went straight attack, go up the ramp and cut off bomber army form his own natural


Bomber scouted everything during this game with his scv at Squirtles third, he even had a nice base tour.... Played perfectly that game
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3192
On May 28 2012 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:28 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber MC final incoming? Damn Bomber...I was ready to write you off again after the up/downs.


Certainly looks like it but remember, never count out Squirtle.

Squirtle does have a reputation for his comebacks
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3193
No techtoss vs bioball...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
anessie
Profile Joined August 2011
180 Posts
May 27 2012 23:30 GMT
#3194
1. SC2 is a game of positioning.
2. Build zero observers and play completely blind.
3. Get caught out of position.
4. GG
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3195
Squirtle is playing so well, but things just aren't going his way. That was so counter intuitive to move out of his base like that when a Terran is prowling around his ramps.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3196
On May 28 2012 08:30 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:28 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber MC final incoming? Damn Bomber...I was ready to write you off again after the up/downs.


Certainly looks like it but remember, never count out Squirtle.

Squirtle does have a reputation for his comebacks

his *near* comebacks.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3197
On May 28 2012 08:30 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:29 JOJOsc2news wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:28 Dodgin wrote:
Bomber MC final incoming? Damn Bomber...I was ready to write you off again after the up/downs.


Certainly looks like it but remember, never count out Squirtle.

Squirtle does have a reputation for his comebacks

and then losing the series in the end
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3198
On May 28 2012 08:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:22 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Noocta wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[quote]

Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Because people are stupid as hell.
:/


Because every foreigner gets this treatment, and rightfully so. The GSL is the toughest tournament in the world, and until you've seen how someone performs over there you can't say for sure how they'll measure up. Naniwa went through this plenty. Why is Stephano any different?

Nani of course went on to - eventually - prove himself in the GSL after a few embarassments. Stephano might well perform better than Nani. But we don't know.


and maybe koreans are favourised beacause they play on their own soil, just maybe....



That's why they go to MLG, IPL, NASL and even the RedBull thingie on foreign soil, jetlagged and are still winning?
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3199
On May 28 2012 08:29 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:08 Toadvine wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 Havik_ wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:00 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:56 eusoc wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:50 vinsang1000 wrote:
I'm sad for Stephano.

I really think he has to study more diverse strategies for the mid-game to surprise his opponent... If he doesn't do it, his code S spot will no last long...





Now in korea there is a 200/200 roach timing with overlord drop(not even need speed now) that is almost impossible to hold, as you have to defend 3 different places while the ffs are almost useless



IMO this literally is a HUGE problem right now once zergs start learning this


you dont even need roachspeed OR lingspeed, just spend 300/300 on drops and protoss has to defend 3 locations at once while you drop 200food of roach/ling into the toss main at TWELVE MINUTES LITERALLY


honestly lingspeed/roachspeed loses its value after mass forcefields at in play. imo might be better to skip lingspeed and just get droptech for a 200max drop at 12 minutes

this new 200food max + drops strategy thats been going around the korean ladder is KILLER. i agree once stephano starts doing that its gonna be WTFHAX



Well. I guess Protoss is going to get a buff soon then. How the hell do you best that??


PvZ is the matchup where the worst aspects of SC2 design collide, and it appears to constantly find new ways to be retarded. Warpgate all-ins on one hand, and Zerg maxing out with 60 drones at 11:30 on the other, aren't Spawn Larvae and Warpgates fun? I actually hope this turns out to be impossible to defend (which is quite likely, given how difficult it is to defend a standard roach max), just to see Blizzard try to patch it out of the game in some amusing way. Maybe they'll move overlord drop to Hive?



They'll probably have to do that. I don't see any other way to beat that.


stargate play?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
May 27 2012 23:31 GMT
#3200
Lol bomber installed a cam behind squirtle's shoulder in teamhouse
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