EPT[SPL] KT Rolster vs Team 8 - Page 14
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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oBlade
United States6268 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:01 Fionn wrote: Sang is their best SC2 player apparently. And Baby got a lot of praise, too. No way I see Jaedong getting fed to Lizzy in ace. His psyche wouldn't be able to handle it. This is Jaedong whose coach was afraid he wouldn't take a single set in Bacchus 2009, but instead shut out Yarnc 3-0? It will always be a treat to watch him play. Edit: But yeah he's not a practice bonjwa for SC2 right now so it will doubtless be someone else if this goes to ace. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:01 Fionn wrote: Sang is their best SC2 player apparently. And Baby got a lot of praise, too. No way I see Jaedong getting fed to Lizzy in ace. His psyche wouldn't be able to handle it. Sang practiced a lot of BW this week. Anyway, we'll see how it goes. | ||
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julianto
2292 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:02 roymarthyup wrote: Jaedong played extremely well early game and should have had essentially a game-winning advantage for any other zerg but i guess no one gave jaedong the memo In sc2 three bases is really all you need. Each base can be massively saturated with 20 drones on minerals, 6 on gas. thats 78 drones for 3 bases, most opt to go for about 72-75. Once you actually have 3 bases power out to max saturation ASAP then after that use that insane income to power out a massive army to do battle with crazy-hydra did this. jaedong didnt he just wasnt given the memo i guess that your supposed to power drones asap whenever you can. jaedong was way slower on making drones. so crazy-hydra overran him midgame still impressed with jaedong good mechanics just wasnt given the memo i guess... Will someone please give him that memo already? sheesh | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:04 smallerk wrote: To be honest JD just lacks execution, he isn't nearly as bad as he looks. He doesn't lack execution. Mechanically he's godly. Just lacks the knowledge... | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Hopefully no PvP. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:03 KingRajesh wrote: Just pointing out... 0% win percentage. Jaedong, I think, didn't use Mutas enough that game, and when he tried to go ground he was already behind. Wtf? You think two games with 0% percentage means ANYTHING? Jesus what's wrong with you. He used the mutas to kill several queens, spores, AND the third base. That's pretty good. In what way was he behind? 3 bases to 2 bases isn't behind. | ||
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Art.FeeL
1163 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:05 julianto wrote: Will someone please give him that memo already? sheesh No good understanding of the game and that's it. Give Jaedong more time and he will grow a beast. This game was already a lot better than his previous one | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:02 ProxyKnoxy wrote: After he took out the third he should have teched to infestors right away. He had a really good game plan though - you could see it all coming together. I think he wanted a base race, which is why he sent all those roaches to the fourth and burrowed them, while building loads of spine crawlers and keeping his infestors at home. It didn't really work out though. He could have sent a much smaller group of roaches to kill the third and kept the rest at home and he might have had a chance. It didn't work out simply because his macro was crap during the entire game, he never made enough drones and most definetely was feeling uneasy about how to spend his money, everything else was fine. | ||
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
There is no gaureentee the so called big 3 of BW are going to dominate. SC2 is a different game | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:00 arQ wrote: Whats up with banking 2k minerals and sitting on 61 drones on 4 bases? It appears that he didn't know what decision to make. His early game decision making was on point but wasn't every good with the mid-game transition due to lack of experience. He will be much better once he understands the mid-game scenarios. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:02 roymarthyup wrote: Jaedong played extremely well early game and should have had essentially a game-winning advantage for any other zerg but i guess no one gave jaedong the memo In sc2 three bases is really all you need. Each base can be massively saturated with 20 drones on minerals, 6 on gas. thats 78 drones for 3 bases, most opt to go for about 72-75. Once you actually have 3 bases power out to max saturation ASAP then after that use that insane income to power out a massive army to do battle with crazy-hydra did this. jaedong didnt he just wasnt given the memo i guess that your supposed to power drones asap whenever you can. jaedong was way slower on making drones. so crazy-hydra overran him midgame still impressed with jaedong good mechanics just wasnt given the memo i guess... His problem wasn't drones, it was making things in general. His macro slipped hard. | ||
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Rainfall7711
329 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:05 rysecake wrote: He doesn't lack execution. Mechanically he's godly. Just lacks the knowledge... ALL BW players lack the knowledge and Meta-game of SC2. This is totally normal,and expected. I don't see why everyone is calling terrible so fast. You need to realise 1 or 2 months ago these guys had ZERO knowledge and practice in this game. It's impressive they are playing like this even. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:05 rysecake wrote: He doesn't lack execution. Mechanically he's godly. Just lacks the knowledge... These games doesnt mean much anyway. We will see their true talent on Sc2 only in the next season of the PL. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:03 Rainfall7711 wrote: Some of these comments just show some you guys lack knowledge about SC2 in general. First, his macro wasn't bad at all, and he was way ahead, and before you call bullshit it's kind of known around 60 drones is all that is needed for ZvZ. Came from Nestea's mouth and you don't see much more than that because it's not needed. As far as i can see he made one bad decision and that was to go for a basetrade rather than go home and press his big advantage he had. Stop making this seems bigger than it is, he made one wrong move because he's new to the game, nothing more. He was floating 1.5k to 2k minerals while at around 150 supply, and with enough gas to build units too. He was way ahead, his macro slipped badly, and he made a bad decision to counterattack (which wouldn't have been so bad had he been macroing properly and had an extra 30-40 supply of roaches on the map ><) | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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smallerk
897 Posts
On May 27 2012 17:05 rysecake wrote: He doesn't lack execution. Mechanically he's godly. Just lacks the knowledge... He has good mechanics, thats why he had 2k minerals and a ton of larva; the thing is he didnt spend them nearly as quickly as he should have, he lacks execution, nothing else. Same shit with his ZvP last week, had he executed the counter attack better he would've won. | ||
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Rube_Juice
Canada348 Posts
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
YESSSSS | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
He wanted to counter attack but his spines was late. He got good plan and insane mechanics. Just have to work more on transition timing | ||
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