stats and crazy hydra played bw last match. since there is only 1 spot left for sc2, it means, 1 of them cannot play bw against the next team? or does it reset after 1 week?

las91

United States5080 Posts

May 22 2012 08:02 GMT

#1046

definitely a 3 gate pressure ~~if not a 4 gate allin~~ coming from Wooki. We'll see how Guemchi's timings are for defense.
EDIT: 3gate pressure was correct.

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

May 22 2012 08:02 GMT

#1047

On May 22 2012 17:00 PhoenixDark wrote:

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It's pretty funny in fact. The initialy argument was that SC2 was "so easy" that BW pros would naturally dominate it immediately. Then the argument morphed to claiming the game was so cheesy/timing based there could be no stability at the top(nevermind three players basically dominating the game for its first two years).

They're going to get good eventually considering how much they practice. But none of them are going to be better than DRG, MVP, etc by the end of the year

Funny thing is nobody cares about whether bw pro's will dominate or not .

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

May 22 2012 08:02 GMT

#1048

On May 22 2012 17:01 hagrin wrote:
Is it bad that the Nari & Milani - I got My Eyes on You song sounded like KPop to me? Am I really getting that old that anything that sounds "young" I immediately dismiss as Kpop?

PS - It's kind of catchy though TT.
PPS - I think a drunk Fruitdealer might be able to win these games.

It really sounded like 2ne1 to me, you're not alone.

Veldril

Thailand1817 Posts

May 22 2012 08:02 GMT

#1049

Wait, did ACE not play Guemchi last match so he can played him in SC2 against KT this weak? Maybe he's the ace of ACE and not FBH?

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1050

welp, 4gatuh

roymarthyup

1442 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1051

On May 22 2012 17:01 xxpack09 wrote:

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On May 22 2012 16:59 roymarthyup wrote:

On May 22 2012 16:57 xxpack09 wrote:

On May 22 2012 16:53 roymarthyup wrote:

On May 22 2012 16:51 Dante08 wrote:

On May 22 2012 16:46 roymarthyup wrote:
id say lizzies build in that game was akin to a 4pool. it would be strong against cc first but lose to pretty much everything else but be almost a garuntee win against CC first

that says alot about lizzies skill it must be horrible because if a zerg uses a 4pool because he knows he sucks at everything else, it must mean the zerg sucks

im just correcting people who are commenting about "oh lizzy lost those goons there, etc etc, man he sucks" as giving reasons he sucks but in reality you should be saying "lizzy did some horrible all-in build almost similar to a 4pool in function. it means he knows he cannot play a real game competitively and thus he sucks"

How is it akin to 4 pool vs CC first? He could have easily stopped unit production and expanded. Instead he chose to engage a bunker with 2 siege tanks behind, no way he would have broken that. I guess he was just saving his energy for the ace match or something. Still pretty horrible decision making.

normally the zerg just GG's if the 4pool doesnt grant him a BO win

lizzy decided he could either attack with a 100% chance of failing and maybe a miracle would happen

or lizzy could pull back and play at a 100% extreme disadvantage in the macro game. same as a 4pool pulling back and trying to play normal after failing to win with the initial attack

Again, the main point isn't that he chose to attack, it's that he doesn't even know the basics. Imagine a Zerg in SC2 going 12hatch14pool instead of 15hatch16pool. It's that bad.

he made the faster gates for faster units to have more units slightly faster at the terran base slightly faster so if the terran went CC first, it would be an auto win

if he made gates later, the units would arrive at the terran base slightly later

same as when a zerg 4pools to get units to the terran base ASAP so if the terran goes CC first they auto win

when it fails, it fails. it says that the user of the all-in build sucks because he went for a highly inefficient build that sacrifices a ton of econ to get attacking units ASAP to the enemy in hope that they get a free win cuz the enemy was playing greedy

13gate vs 15gate does not get you dragoons out faster, the fact that you're missing those 2 probes means you can't build goons immediately (since you have to get range). But nice try.

you can make the goons immediately and wait a bit on the range and be stronger and faster against the CC first

if he didnt do that then hes retarded

GreYMisT

United States6736 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1052

Ladies and Gentlemen, We have a 4 gate

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1053

On May 22 2012 17:02 Sawamura wrote:

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Funny thing is nobody cares about whether bw pro's will dominate or not .

I care haha. I want to see my favorite BW gamers winning star2 leagues!

ZeromuS

Canada13401 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1054

The onus is on Wookie here, since hes is up against a 4 gate its all about his transition.

Ruscour

5233 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1055

I hate this 3gate variation by Wooki, I much prefer getting your 2nd gas even though you don't mine from it because it's so easily scouted and it makes transitioning cake if you can't kill them with it, an extra stalker isn't gonna help you defend that pylon

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1056

two probes out of nowhere lol who do you think you are a terran

Juliette

United States6003 Posts

May 22 2012 08:03 GMT

#1057

On May 22 2012 17:00 Juliette wrote:

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Wookie puts his gate on 10, GuemChi waits until 13

4:00 Both add 2 gateways for 3 total, but the warpgate of Wooki is much faster. No proxy pylons yet, but Wookie moves his zeal/stalker to the natural of GuemChi

5:00 Along with pressure, a pylon gets placed at the bottom and top of the main ramp. Wookie's units are forced to leave, there are 2 probes and 3 stalkers warp in immediately.