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[WL SPOILERS] ......................GuemChi

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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-17 03:46:18
February 16 2009 21:53 GMT
#1
I assume you have watched both Winners League matches last night (2/16, Stars vs. SKT and MBC vs. Khan), or at least know the results of each match. If not, stop reading this post NOW.





















GuemChi: Your average Protoss player.... OR NEXT BONJWA?!
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Who is (P)GuemChi (Kim Seung Hyun)? Well, just click that TLPD link and find out, you silly. He is without a doubt one of the best Protoss players of our time, and has the endorsement of the veteran Stars coach.

"Kim Seung Hyun will be the new king of the Proleague."
-Lee Jae Kyun

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Last night, he completely destroyed the person who many people consider to be the current "bonjwa," or at least the head of the "6 Dragons."

Bisu. Kim Taek Yong.



This is indeed the Golden Age of Protoss... but soon it will be coined as The Age of GuemChi. The terrifying statistics he put up (last night) are shown in these graphs:

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The monstrous win percentage that Guemchi has displayed against Bisu (last night) is 100% more than the current top Terran and Zerg players (Flash and Jaedong, respectively) .

Can anyone stop this monster? I think not.



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Is Bisu a bonjwa? Apparently not, because GuemChi displayed an unreal win percentage (last night) in PvP. Even the other top "Dragon," Stork, pales in comparison to GuemChi.

Guemchi with a 100% win ratio in PvP.
Bisu with a 50% win ratio in PvP.
Stork with a sad, sad 0% win ratio in PvP.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure no one can stop him.



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Again, the top 2 Dragons are not up to par with GuemChi. This monster went completely undefeated (last night), an amazing, astonishing feat. You tell me, does Bisu have 0 losses on that graph?

NO.



Are you convinced yet? GuemChi has taken bonjwa status at this moment. This extreme period of dominance ushered in (last night) has shocked us all, and some Bisu fans are in denial. Let me tell you straight: denial is bad. Accept the fact that GuemChi is the future of Starcraft.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 16 2009 21:55 GMT
#2
statistics..
And all is illuminated.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 16 2009 21:56 GMT
#3
the graphs really help me understand your point imo
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 16 2009 21:56 GMT
#4
GUEMCHI #1 FANNNNNNNNN (i'll gladly settle for #2 if u want)
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
kawaiideshou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 16 2009 21:56 GMT
#5
There are three kind of lies.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
:3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 16 2009 21:57 GMT
#6
Wow your statistics really opened my eyes I had no idea GuemChi was so good.
RIP Aaliyah
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
February 16 2009 21:58 GMT
#7
Guemchi's programing stats make me cry.He's 18-21 so just 46.15% win rate for him. He's 4-4 this season of WL too.

Yep. He's a bonjwa alright.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 16 2009 21:58 GMT
#8
Cleverrrr.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 16 2009 22:00 GMT
#9
On February 17 2009 06:56 kawaiideshou wrote:
There are three kind of lies.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

There three different kinds of people.
Regular people, people with kawaii in their handle, and really obtuse people with kawaii in their handle.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
February 16 2009 22:00 GMT
#10
well done
TrainReq
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada113 Posts
February 16 2009 22:01 GMT
#11
Bahahaha this was masterfully written. Thanks.
Don't put your fingers where you wouldn't put your dick.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 22:05:08
February 16 2009 22:01 GMT
#12
These statistics totally changed my point of view.I have the same win ratio as Stork from last WL night - 0%, guess I was at about same level as him.
Excellent post imo.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
kawaiideshou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 16 2009 22:03 GMT
#13
On February 17 2009 07:00 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 06:56 kawaiideshou wrote:
There are three kind of lies.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

There three different kinds of people.
Regular people, people with kawaii in their handle, and really obtuse people with kawaii in their handle.

I fall under all 3. I must be cool.
:3
naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
February 16 2009 22:04 GMT
#14
I see what you did there
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
February 16 2009 22:04 GMT
#15
wat? *pisses ppl off in the pet-peeves thread*
Jaedong
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 22:05:32
February 16 2009 22:05 GMT
#16
The numbers don't lie, folks!

edit:
On February 17 2009 07:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
wat? *pisses ppl off in the pet-peeves thread*



Ho ho! Good one!
Chains none
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8118 Posts
February 16 2009 22:05 GMT
#17
guemchi makes 1a2a3a look like 1a
Free Palestine
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
February 16 2009 22:06 GMT
#18
On February 17 2009 06:55 freelander wrote:
statistics..

On February 17 2009 06:56 kawaiideshou wrote:
There are three kind of lies.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

On February 17 2009 06:58 FirstBorn wrote:
Guemchi's programing stats make me cry.He's 18-21 so just 46.15% win rate for him. He's 4-4 this season of WL too.

Yep. He's a bonjwa alright.


Joke
You guys.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-16 22:07:02
February 16 2009 22:06 GMT
#19
On February 17 2009 07:05 Ideas wrote:
guemchi makes 1a2a3a look like 1a

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La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
kawaiideshou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States34 Posts
February 16 2009 22:06 GMT
#20
On February 17 2009 07:06 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 06:55 freelander wrote:
statistics..

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 06:56 kawaiideshou wrote:
There are three kind of lies.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2009 06:58 FirstBorn wrote:
Guemchi's programing stats make me cry.He's 18-21 so just 46.15% win rate for him. He's 4-4 this season of WL too.

Yep. He's a bonjwa alright.


<MARQUEE WIDTH="20%">Joke</MARQUEE>
You guys.

I find the best way to respond to sarcasm is with sarcasm.
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