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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
May 22 2012 07:19 GMT
#681
On May 22 2012 16:18 Release wrote:
If Flash is the Final Boss, the Lizzi is the First Boss
+ Show Spoiler +
you know, the one you beat in the tutorial that doesn't fight back

Doesn't fight back? He killed Canata's bunker
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
May 22 2012 07:19 GMT
#682
On May 22 2012 16:18 Holgerius wrote:
That was one of the worst pro-BW games I've ever seen. Extremely awful. It was on the level where it's not even so bad it's good, that was just embarassing to watch.

Even as the #1 Canata fan, I have to agree.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#683
On May 22 2012 16:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:18 Kavas wrote:
Mediocre BW player, tip top SC2 player... Hmmm, sounds like a player we all know and love.


mediocre is being way too nice

mvp was good enough to beat flash in a tvt this isn't even a comparison

I think he's talking about a certain someone who played 2v2's with reach.
ZergMarijuana
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 07:20:32
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#684
That might've been the worst BW play I've ever seen in a televised game.
Meh
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#685
On May 22 2012 16:19 CoR wrote:
why does KT use their best sc2 gamer in broodwar ......

also i think the sc2 team of ace is better then KT without Lizzy


Players have to play both games (if they play SC2, they need to play BW for the next match). The exception is the Ace match (any player can play regardless of whether they played SC2 or BW last).
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#686
I would say ACE read KT's plan like a boss
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#687
Pretty expected, if you devote most of your time towards SC2 your BW is going to suck, the mechanics are a real pain.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#688
Cant really fault lizzy for that, hes been so dominant in SC2 throughout the whole season. I guess it's more about leaving his legacy for him at this point.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#689
On May 22 2012 16:19 raga4ka wrote:
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On May 22 2012 16:18 Caihead wrote:
I'm guessing stats / hoejja / CH to play SC2?


Also Stats .


i just said that, lol
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casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#690
On May 22 2012 16:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:18 Kavas wrote:
Mediocre BW player, tip top SC2 player... Hmmm, sounds like a player we all know and love.


mediocre is being way too nice

mvp was good enough to beat flash in a tvt this isn't even a comparison

I think lots of foreign broodwar players are even better than lizzy. Sziky, projekt etc look like they can roll over him

He wouldn't even make A on today's iccup
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#691
It's pretty obvious that Lizzy doesn't have an 8:2 practice ratio with SC2/BW, more like 10:0 :p
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#692
On May 22 2012 16:20 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:19 Dodgin wrote:
On May 22 2012 16:18 Kavas wrote:
Mediocre BW player, tip top SC2 player... Hmmm, sounds like a player we all know and love.


mediocre is being way too nice

mvp was good enough to beat flash in a tvt this isn't even a comparison

I think he's talking about a certain someone who played 2v2's with reach.
ZergMarijuana


hm yeah I didn't think of zergbong.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 22 2012 07:20 GMT
#693
On May 22 2012 16:19 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:18 Release wrote:
If Flash is the Final Boss, the Lizzi is the First Boss
+ Show Spoiler +
you know, the one you beat in the tutorial that doesn't fight back

Doesn't fight back? He killed Canata's bunker

Canata's bunker was stopping his tanks and marine from A-moving into Lizzi's main. It was a cue for Canata to finish the game.
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#694
On May 22 2012 16:20 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:19 Dodgin wrote:
On May 22 2012 16:18 Kavas wrote:
Mediocre BW player, tip top SC2 player... Hmmm, sounds like a player we all know and love.


mediocre is being way too nice

mvp was good enough to beat flash in a tvt this isn't even a comparison

I think he's talking about a certain someone who played 2v2's with reach.
ZergMarijuana

I thought he was talking about MC, same race and everything. But really, most SC2 progamers that switched early are like that
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#695
On May 22 2012 16:19 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:18 Kavas wrote:
Mediocre BW player, tip top SC2 player... Hmmm, sounds like a player we all know and love.


mediocre is being way too nice

mvp was good enough to beat flash in a tvt this isn't even a comparison


yea take a game off him.
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#696
[QUOTE]On May 22 2012 16:18 GTR wrote:
[QUOTE]On May 22 2012 16:17 Scarecrow wrote:
Worst BW game ever?[/QUOTE]

well canata played fine. i can name games where both players played terribly.[/QUOTE Right but whose ever done/executed a strategy that terrible? I cant think of any off the top of my head
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#697
On May 22 2012 16:19 CoR wrote:
why does KT use their best sc2 gamer in broodwar ......

also i think the sc2 team of ace is better then KT without Lizzy

They won't be able to use him again (unless for Ace matches) unless he's played BW. I suspect we'll keep seeing him played on the 3rd maps of a lot of KTs BW games.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 07:22:08
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#698
On May 22 2012 16:20 Fragile51 wrote:
It's pretty obvious that Lizzy doesn't have an 8:2 practice ratio with SC2/BW, more like 10:0 :p


IMO I think that's the best way to do it IMO.

If a team wins all of their SC2 games but loses all of their BW games, they win (thanks to Ace match always being in SC2).

So anyone who isn't so good at BW should focus 100% on SC2 (while those who are good should practice maybe 8:2 SC2:BW).
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slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#699
I think the most odd part of this format after having watched all the matches thus far is:
one day STX, for example, prepare players 1 2 and 3 to play BW, and players 3 4 and 5 to play sc2 vs Woonjin
next day STX has to play players 3 4 and 5 in BW and 1 2 and 3 in SC2 vs A DIFFERENT TEAM. I can't imagine the headache of the coaches trying to prepare for this...
It's hard enough trying to predict a bo7 series and get favorable match-ups in one day, and now they have to do it for 2 bo7 series it seems. Or am I missing something?
jaedong imba
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 22 2012 07:21 GMT
#700
On May 22 2012 16:19 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 16:18 Release wrote:
If Flash is the Final Boss, the Lizzi is the First Boss
+ Show Spoiler +
you know, the one you beat in the tutorial that doesn't fight back

Doesn't fight back? He killed Canata's bunker


He's like the first time you see Ripley in metroid, hits you once and just flies away.
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