Ghostking won the head to head against both Lure and JYP, meaning even if he lost to July and Nestea he would advance when the winner of the PvP tied him 2-2.
GSL wastes no time I guess. Offseason, what's that? Although there is a reasonable period between up/downs and the start of the next actual season. Code S starts June 11th.
GSL wastes no time I guess. Offseason, what's that? Although there is a reasonable period between up/downs and the start of the next actual season. Code S starts June 11th.
I think this is because they want to get the Code S roster finalized as quickly as possible, so they can work on production and stories.
yeah there's like a two week break between this finishing and code S starting haha plenty of time :D but there's still GSTL to fill the time! thanks dodgin for the LR thread! (although i'd title this [Up/Down] Group A 2012 GSL Season 3) so they're easier to tell apart in the sidebar :D woop
hoping for ghostking/jyp, expecting ghostking/nestea!
There is a break between Up/Downs and Code S because GSTL will be next week for five days and the next week for three. The next two weeks were supposed to be five days each of GSTL, but the second week got cut down to only three games due to oGs folding.
On May 21 2012 13:18 Fionn wrote: There is a break between Up/Downs and Code S because GSTL will be next week for five days and the next week for three. The next two weeks were supposed to be five days each of GSTL, but the second week got cut down to only three games due to oGs folding.
Nice preview, but I'm frustrated to not have a review of the best code A day (ever) !
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.
Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).
JULY ASSESSMENT
Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.
Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.
Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.
NESTEA
Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.
Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.
Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.
LURE ASSESSMENT
The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.
1. JYP – NESTEA
Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea. Confidence interval: 75%
2. JULY – LURE
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.
Prediction: July Confidence interval: 60%
3. JYP – GHOSTKING
Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 90%
4. JULY – NESTEA
July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
5. LURE – GHOSTKING
Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 100%.
6. JULY – JYP
JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 25%
7. LURE – NESTEA
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
8. JULY – GHOSTKING
Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.
Prediction: GhostKing. Confidence interval: 85%
9. LURE – JYP
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 85%
10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING
Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.
Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).
JULY ASSESSMENT
Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.
Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.
Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.
NESTEA
Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.
Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.
Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.
LURE ASSESSMENT
The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.
1. JYP – NESTEA
Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea. Confidence interval: 75%
2. JULY – LURE
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.
Prediction: July Confidence interval: 60%
3. JYP – GHOSTKING
Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 90%
4. JULY – NESTEA
July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
5. LURE – GHOSTKING
Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 100%.
6. JULY – JYP
JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 25%
7. LURE – NESTEA
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
8. JULY – GHOSTKING
Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.
Prediction: GhostKing. Confidence interval: 85%
9. LURE – JYP
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 85%
10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING
Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.
Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).
JULY ASSESSMENT
Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.
Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.
Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.
NESTEA
Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.
Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.
Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.
LURE ASSESSMENT
The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.
1. JYP – NESTEA
Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea. Confidence interval: 75%
2. JULY – LURE
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.
Prediction: July Confidence interval: 60%
3. JYP – GHOSTKING
Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 90%
4. JULY – NESTEA
July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
5. LURE – GHOSTKING
Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 100%.
6. JULY – JYP
JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 25%
7. LURE – NESTEA
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
8. JULY – GHOSTKING
Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.
Prediction: GhostKing. Confidence interval: 85%
9. LURE – JYP
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 85%
10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING
Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.
On May 21 2012 14:12 Walitgon wrote: My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
Seal and life are "lesser" than July and Fruitdealer??
not many zergs are ahead of them except symbol, nestea, leenock and drg maybe curious??
neither of them have much exposure but they are seriously highly rated among korean players
My views on what will happen in the games tonight!
JYP ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. JYP is competent vs zerg, having recently beaten July and Fruitdealer. But most of his wins are against lesser zergs such as Seal and Life. Notably, he has performed against the aggressive zergs, July and Fruitdealer.
Against v TERRAN. JYP has 8-28 record against Terran, and of his last 22 games against Terran, he has lost 20. That’s less than a 10% winrate over the last 22 games against Terran.
Against v PROTOSS. JYP has a strong record against protoss. He has recently beaten Hero, SaSe, HongUn, anypro, Vines and Tester. However, he loses against the best, such as Alicia and Oz (and has lost to Hero in as many games as he’s beat him).
GHOSTKING ASSESSMENT
Against v ZERG. Ghostking isn’t the best zerg killer. He’s racked up plenty of losses against pretty poor zergs, including Seal, Terious, and Monster, as well as better zergs, like LosirA, Leenock and Zenio.
Against v PROTOSS. Ghostking has recently been crushing the absolute best of toss. Wins include against Choya, PartinG (best PvTer in the world), AcE, Squirtle (GSL finalist) and Oz (former would-be successor to MC as King of Toss).
JULY ASSESSMENT
Against ZERG. July has a poor record against zerg. I suspect that might be because he plays too aggressive, and that can be exploited by simply getting a spine up early and getting defensive banes. A quick +1 or 1-1 roach timing could kill him off two base.
Against TERRAN. July wins and loses against the best and worse. Wins include against MVP and MKP although he’s lost to top terrans in equal numbers too.
Against PROTOSS. July is pretty solid against protoss with wins against HerO and Genius as of late. Having said that, he also recently lost to JYP.
NESTEA
Against ZERG. Nestea is ridiculously solid against zerg, with a 28-6 record, and recently with wins over DRG, Idra, LosirA and July. Of course, he loses some, but it’s ZvZ.
Against TERRAN. Nestea has immense experience against Code S terrans and has won and lost against the best. Lately he has faltered and made awfully poor decisions, including in his last games against Keen.
Against PROTOSS. Nestea has a great record against protoss too, with a 24-9 record. He’s beaten InCa, Genuis, Naniwa and HongUn lately, although he’s also lost to MC, Genius, HuK and tails.
LURE ASSESSMENT
The guy is new, and has hardly any games on record. He’s lost more than he’s won but that’s no surprise, especially seeing as some of the games are against the best. He recently beat InCa twice, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the mirror is his best matchup.
1. JYP – NESTEA
Although JYP is competent against zerg, he has performed better against cheesy ergs. Against a strong macro zerg, who is resistant to cheese and strong at all stages of the game, and despite Nestea’s slight decline as of late, I favour Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea. Confidence interval: 75%
2. JULY – LURE
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to July.
Prediction: July Confidence interval: 60%
3. JYP – GHOSTKING
Given JYP’s absolutely abysmal record against T, and GhostKing’s absolutely stunning record against P, GhostKing has this without a doubt.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 90%
4. JULY – NESTEA
July has a shot against Nestea but Nestea is just too good, and solid at ZvZ too. I doubt we’ll see hatch openings and I think Nestea will simply outplay July in ling and potentially bling fights, and squeeze a few extra drones for a win. On top of this, in their last encounter, Nestea beat July.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
5. LURE – GHOSTKING
Not only is Lure the natural underdog, but Ghostking is an absolute protoss killer.
Prediction: Ghostking. Confidence interval: 100%.
6. JULY – JYP
JYP is competent vs zerg and has recently beaten July. Yet July is also solid against protoss. I marginally give the edge to JYP, with little confidence:
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 25%
7. LURE – NESTEA
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to Nestea.
Prediction: Nestea Confidence interval: 80%
8. JULY – GHOSTKING
Although GhostKing isn’t amazing against zerg, July has been playing odd against terran as of late. Silly mutalisk choices, a refusal to get roaches, and excessive banelings instead of lings have lost him games. GhostKing is likely to win.
Prediction: GhostKing. Confidence interval: 85%
9. LURE – JYP
With Lure the natural underdog, I have to give it to JYP, and especially considering JYP’s excellent record against protoss.
Prediction: JYP Confidence interval: 85%
10. NESTEA - GHOSTKING
Although both solid players, Nestea is the favourite, particularly because of Ghostking’s weaker record against zergs. There is a chance that Nestea will falter as against Keen, and get killed by hellions. Yet, I think he’ll have smartened up since that debacle.
This group seems really close to me , I could either one (with maybe the exception of Lure) advance to Code S. No matter who will go through, some guys are going to have a difficult code A RO48 match.
JYP <Entombed Valley> NesTea July <Metropolis> Lure JYP <Dual Sight> GhostKing July <Ohana> NesTea Lure <Atlantis Spaceship> GhostKing July <Cloud Kingdom> JYP Lure <Antiga Shipyard> NesTea July <Daybreak> GhostKing Lure <Antiga Shipyard> JYP NesTea <Ohana> GhostKing JYP 3 - 1 Ghostking 3 - 1 Lure 2 - 2 Nestea 2 - 2 July 0 - 4 A fairly hefty amount of bias in there, I want JYP to do well again, I hate all this EG curse rubbish that gets thrown around in these threads. I can't see a zerg going through today, unless they completely turn on the fire.
Oh man I forgot how emotional these music videos can get. A lot of the contemporary korean pop music feels like where american pop music was ~15 years ago, but with elements of new style/culture.
On May 21 2012 18:11 Blazinghand wrote: By the way guys, I'm in tl's teamspeak in Lobby/Room1 if anyone wants to chat about the games. We should have a party~
5.00 EG_JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 1 o'clock position. LG-IM NesTea spawning as the green Zerg in the 4 o'clock position.'
JYP starting a wall on the ramp to his natural, preparing for a FE. Pool first for NesTea.
Forge first for JYP, blocking natural of DRG. DRG goes to take his expansion on the third location.
DRG takes down the Pylon blocking his nat and goes for a fast third. Gateway and 1 gas up for JYP.
10.00 Warpgate tech on the way, JYP chronoing Probes. DRG starts working on the rocks to his third.
Stargate on the way for JYP as he takes the remaining geysers. Void Ray on the way.
Lair and Evolution Chamber on the way for NesTea, Metabolic Boost finishing up. 3 Gateways added on for JYP.
NesTea taking two gas on his natural. Spore Crawlers going down.
JYP moves out with a Zealot and a Stalker, but NesTea manages to catch them both. Void Ray and Phoenix moves in but Queen holds them off as NesTea burrows his Spore Crawler in a better position.
+1 attack onthe way for JYP. Spire hidden in the bottom left of the map as NesTea goes for a macro Hatch. +1 melee on the way.
JYP goes for an attack, with a Void Ray and two Phoenix as well as Zealots backing. NesTea holds off the Zealots easily, but misses on a transfuse that hits an Overlord instead, and a Queen goes down. The Second Queen survives, and one Phoenix and one Void Ray falls!
5.00 EG_JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 1 o'clock position. LG-IM NesTea spawning as the green Zerg in the 4 o'clock position.'
JYP starting a wall on the ramp to his natural, preparing for a FE. Pool first for NesTea.
Forge first for JYP, blocking natural of DRG. DRG goes to take his expansion on the third location.
DRG takes down the Pylon blocking his nat and goes for a fast third. Gateway and 1 gas up for JYP.
10.00 Warpgate tech on the way, JYP chronoing Probes. DRG starts working on the rocks to his third.
Stargate on the way for JYP as he takes the remaining geysers. Void Ray on the way.
Lair and Evolution Chamber on the way for NesTea, Metabolic Boost finishing up. 3 Gateways added on for JYP.
NesTea taking two gas on his natural. Spore Crawlers going down.
JYP moves out with a Zealot and a Stalker, but NesTea manages to catch them both. Void Ray and Phoenix moves in but Queen holds them off as NesTea burrows his Spore Crawler in a better position.
+1 attack onthe way for JYP. Spire hidden in the bottom left of the map as NesTea goes for a macro Hatch. +1 melee on the way.
JYP goes for an attack, with a Void Ray and two Phoenix as well as Zealots backing. NesTea holds off the Zealots easily, but misses on a transfuse that hits an Overlord instead, and a Queen goes down. The Second Queen survives, and one Phoenix and one Void Ray falls!
15.00 JYP going for a third, NesTea runs by with Zerglings and kills off Sentries and Zealots before a huge wave of Zealots cleans it up. Nexus goes down.
15 Mutas pop! +1 air attack and +2 melee startes for NesTea.
Blink finishing up for JYP. NesTea goes for a fourth but it's forced to cancel by Zealots.
Templar Archives on the way for JYP. NesTea going for double expand.
NesTea runs into the third with Mutalisks and Zergligns, letting the Zerglings take on the ground forces while th Mutas run into the main, taking out a Pylon powering four gateways. Zerglings come in to reinforce, and the Stalker count falls to the point where NesTea can fight head on with Mutas.
On May 21 2012 18:27 Asha` wrote: Best part of that game was Khaldor calling the Artosis pylon and then realising he's casting with Artosis and saying oops I'm sorry xD
Artosis says it's ok.... but let's be serious.... he hates it so much
with the protoss on entombed out of the way i feel like nestea already took the biggest hurdle on the way back to code s, code s without nestea just makes no sense
Ok, just got up and started watching GSL. Khaldor and Artosis, my favorite GSL casting combo and also Kristoffer's LR to catch up on the game I missed and my coffee is also just finished and no university for me today.
On May 21 2012 18:28 GreyKnight wrote: disastrous game.
like nestea forcing zealots out before jyp new of mutas essentially with those ling attacks.
it was pretty nice the way he executed it though,scouted phoenix, hides spire tech and goes muta to mind fuck. Go +2 mass lings forcing zealots and then going in with mutas. Its pretty beautiful
Gogo July. I don't get how sometimes July looks like the boss he is and sometimes he looks like the banjo he is not. Hope today it's the boss who is in the studio.
On May 21 2012 18:39 michielbrands wrote: Artosis himself used the term artosis pylon already saturday in the gsl finals it was quite funny.
This proves that meme word virus works. Constant exposure has worn Artosis down to accepting it, even if he still will try to shift it more towards InControl pylons.
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the orange Zergin the 9 o'clock position. MVPLure spawning as the green Protoss in the 12 o'clock position.'
Forge FE from Lure. Pool first by July, Hatch on 15.
Nexus on 17 for Lure, first cannon on his wall. GateWay to finish the wall.
First Gas taken by July. Lure taking two gas in his main.
10.00 July taking second gas in main, Metabolic Boost almost done. Two more cannons on the wall of Lure.
Lair on the way for July. Robotics Facility on the way, warpgate tech halfway done. +1 attack started.
July taking yet another two gas. Three more Gateways on the way for Lure, Overlord scouts everything.
Spire started by July, taking a third base, and a fourth one. Twilight Council on the way for Lure, +1 armor started.
July has 8 Mutas on the way, +1 air attack. Cannons up in the main mineral line of Lure.
The Mutalisks run into the main of Lure, running past the Stalkers and cannons into the natural where they kill multiple workers before he gets out.
15.00 1/1 melee on the way for July, +2 air attack. Third up for Lure, getting Templar Archives and 2 more Gates, +2 attack.
Mutas try to harass, blink Stalkers deflect multiple times. Baneling Nest on the way for July.
Infestation Pit on the way, Baneling speed as well. Storm researching for Lure.
Mutas make it into the main of Lure, take out a Pylon. Two mutas fall. Fifth base on the way for July. 2/2 melee on the way, Pathogen Glands researching.
Charge started for Lure. July goes in for an attack! Great forcefields block out the Banelings, zerglings run straight into storms. The mutas fly over the army, but Lure storms himself and the Mutas! July's supply drops and he's forced to pull back with only a few Banelings and Mutas left.
Hive on the way for July. Stargate started by Lure.
I don't understand why July doesn't spread creep. He was a 400apm monster in BW, he's definately able to do it... but just doesn't. He literally hasn't put a tumour down in 18 mins... So weird!
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the orange Zergin the 9 o'clock position. MVPLure spawning as the green Protoss in the 12 o'clock position.'
Forge FE from Lure. Pool first by July, Hatch on 15.
Nexus on 17 for Lure, first cannon on his wall. GateWay to finish the wall.
First Gas taken by July. Lure taking two gas in his main.
10.00 July taking second gas in main, Metabolic Boost almost done. Two more cannons on the wall of Lure.
Lair on the way for July. Robotics Facility on the way, warpgate tech halfway done. +1 attack started.
July taking yet another two gas. Three more Gateways on the way for Lure, Overlord scouts everything.
Spire started by July, taking a third base, and a fourth one. Twilight Council on the way for Lure, +1 armor started.
July has 8 Mutas on the way, +1 air attack. Cannons up in the main mineral line of Lure.
The Mutalisks run into the main of Lure, running past the Stalkers and cannons into the natural where they kill multiple workers before he gets out.
15.00 1/1 melee on the way for July, +2 air attack. Third up for Lure, getting Templar Archives and 2 more Gates, +2 attack.
Mutas try to harass, blink Stalkers deflect multiple times. Baneling Nest on the way for July.
Infestation Pit on the way, Baneling speed as well. Storm researching for Lure.
Mutas make it into the main of Lure, take out a Pylon. Two mutas fall. Fifth base on the way for July. 2/2 melee on the way, Pathogen Glands researching.
Charge started for Lure. July goes in for an attack! Great forcefields block out the Banelings, zerglings run straight into storms. The mutas fly over the army, but Lure storms himself and the Mutas! July's supply drops and he's forced to pull back with only a few Banelings and Mutas left.
Hive on the way for July. Stargate started by Lure.
20.00 First Infestors are out on the field. Fleet Beacon on the way for Lure. July loses yet more Zerglings and Banelings in a small engagement. Nice forcefields by Lure.
+3 attack on the way for Lure. Greater Spire started by July, with Overlord speed and drop.
+1 air weapons started by Lure. Mothership in production!
3/3 started by July, getting a macro Hatch. 4 Brood lords in production. July kills some of his own lings and gets out another 4 brood lords.
5 more Gateways coming in for Lure. Fourth base is up for Lure. +1 air armor for July.
2 more Stargates and +2 attack for air coming in by Lure. July chases Lure back, but loses his entire supporting army to storms.
Zealots warping into the main of July! July pushes on with Brood lords and infestors, but a quick blink makes sure they all die.
Normally protoss players are confused and don't exactly know how to deal with a Zerg who goes ling-bling-muta with infestor-brood in zvp. Lure seems to be comfortable against it, going for storm instead of colossi and doing amazing feedback and storm and also has the right zealot count against July's army.
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the orange Zergin the 9 o'clock position. MVPLure spawning as the green Protoss in the 12 o'clock position.'
Forge FE from Lure. Pool first by July, Hatch on 15.
Nexus on 17 for Lure, first cannon on his wall. GateWay to finish the wall.
First Gas taken by July. Lure taking two gas in his main.
10.00 July taking second gas in main, Metabolic Boost almost done. Two more cannons on the wall of Lure.
Lair on the way for July. Robotics Facility on the way, warpgate tech halfway done. +1 attack started.
July taking yet another two gas. Three more Gateways on the way for Lure, Overlord scouts everything.
Spire started by July, taking a third base, and a fourth one. Twilight Council on the way for Lure, +1 armor started.
July has 8 Mutas on the way, +1 air attack. Cannons up in the main mineral line of Lure.
The Mutalisks run into the main of Lure, running past the Stalkers and cannons into the natural where they kill multiple workers before he gets out.
15.00 1/1 melee on the way for July, +2 air attack. Third up for Lure, getting Templar Archives and 2 more Gates, +2 attack.
Mutas try to harass, blink Stalkers deflect multiple times. Baneling Nest on the way for July.
Infestation Pit on the way, Baneling speed as well. Storm researching for Lure.
Mutas make it into the main of Lure, take out a Pylon. Two mutas fall. Fifth base on the way for July. 2/2 melee on the way, Pathogen Glands researching.
Charge started for Lure. July goes in for an attack! Great forcefields block out the Banelings, zerglings run straight into storms. The mutas fly over the army, but Lure storms himself and the Mutas! July's supply drops and he's forced to pull back with only a few Banelings and Mutas left.
Hive on the way for July. Stargate started by Lure.
20.00 First Infestors are out on the field. Fleet Beacon on the way for Lure. July loses yet more Zerglings and Banelings in a small engagement. Nice forcefields by Lure.
+3 attack on the way for Lure. Greater Spire started by July, with Overlord speed and drop.
+1 air weapons started by Lure. Mothership in production!
3/3 started by July, getting a macro Hatch. 4 Brood lords in production. July kills some of his own lings and gets out another 4 brood lords.
5 more Gateways coming in for Lure. Fourth base is up for Lure. +1 air armor for July.
2 more Stargates and +2 attack for air coming in by Lure. July chases Lure back, but loses his entire supporting army to storms.
Zealots warping into the main of July! July pushes on with Brood lords and infestors, but a quick blink makes sure they all die.
23.00 The Zealots are finally cleared up in July's main. Lure is moving out towards July!
July's lings run into the army of Lure, but a storm goes down killing about half of them. Nice forcefields block the rest out. The army of Lure still stands, Lings are rallied in, but falling as they arrive to the battle. Reinforcements stream in across the map for Lure.
On May 21 2012 18:46 NrGmonk wrote: This is a carrier transition, not a voidray one.
He didn't make them in the end though but I guess the situation wasn't right considering he had to deal with mass lings after that. The storms and force fields were so brutal.
July just plays differently from every other Zerg on the planet and I love it, but it's not working out especially against Protoss. Storm is just too good against low-tier Zerg units that are not Roaches.
GSL wastes no time I guess. Offseason, what's that? Although there is a reasonable period between up/downs and the start of the next actual season. Code S starts June 11th.
I think this is because they want to get the Code S roster finalized as quickly as possible, so they can work on production and stories.
If Sundance is to be believed, U&D was originally supposed to be two weeks later, conflicting with Anaheim, but "the players chose" MLG.
On May 21 2012 18:49 Sc2Null wrote: bad composition by july..why no roaches?
his maxed composition was better than the roach one. Roaches (or hydralisks) is really bad at this stage of the game, not to mention that he didnt have the upgrades. It's just, that he didn't do damage with the mutas, he didn't deny the Protoss third base and then tried to fight maxed Protoss without 20Broodlords...
GSL wastes no time I guess. Offseason, what's that? Although there is a reasonable period between up/downs and the start of the next actual season. Code S starts June 11th.
I think this is because they want to get the Code S roster finalized as quickly as possible, so they can work on production and stories.
If Sundance is to be believed, U&D was originally supposed to be two weeks later, conflicting with Anaheim, but "the players chose" MLG.
If I had the choice between playing my up/downs 2 weeks earlier and going to MLG or not going to MLG and playing it two weeks later I would pick go to MLG, seems like an obvious choice with the chance to win money/fame.
holy crap i just realized a way to play with this muta style that would make it incredibly powerful
in that game, july could have say built 12 more mutas as the templar archives were going up and then send in all the mutas to fight and kill all the sentries
you probably lose 1 muta for every sentry you kill. so your spending 100/100 to kill a 50/100 sentry
however, BAM, the moment all the sentries are dead you pump out a ton of lings/banes and a few more mutas, and you attack the toss and BAM he only has a couple sentries he just warped in with 50 energy a piece, thats only a couple forcefields, nowhere near enough, and almost every toss will be attempting to get storm at that point so thats 200 gas wasted not going towards sentries and BAM its just an utter rapestomp because the toss has no forcefields
holy that this is genius. this is so genius the idea just appeared to me in my head
holy crap thats gonna pwn... gonna use this on ladder asap
mutas to the rescue!! mutas will destroy those pesky sentries
On May 21 2012 18:52 roymarthyup wrote: holy crap i just realized a way to play with this muta style that would make it incredibly powerful
in that game, july could have say built 12 more mutas as the templar archives were going up and then send in all the mutas to fight and kill all the sentries
you probably lose 1 muta for every sentry you kill. so your spending 100/100 to kill a 50/100 sentry
however, BAM, the moment all the sentries are dead you pump out a ton of lings/banes and a few more mutas, and you attack the toss and BAM he only has a couple sentries he just warped in with 50 energy a piece, thats only a couple forcefields, nowhere near enough, and almost every toss will be attempting to get storm at that point so thats 200 gas wasted not going towards sentries and BAM its just an utter rapestomp because the toss has no forcefields
holy that this is genius. this is so genius the idea just appeared to me in my head
holy crap thats gonna pwn... gonna use this on ladder asap
mutas to the rescue!! mutas will destroy those pesky sentries
His build loses to a 7 gate push though.. If lure was decisive enough and do a 7 gate instead of expanding, he would have won earlier.
On May 21 2012 18:52 roymarthyup wrote: holy crap i just realized a way to play with this muta style that would make it incredibly powerful
in that game, july could have say built 12 more mutas as the templar archives were going up and then send in all the mutas to fight and kill all the sentries
you probably lose 1 muta for every sentry you kill. so your spending 100/100 to kill a 50/100 sentry
however, BAM, the moment all the sentries are dead you pump out a ton of lings/banes and a few more mutas, and you attack the toss and BAM he only has a couple sentries he just warped in with 50 energy a piece, thats only a couple forcefields, nowhere near enough, and almost every toss will be attempting to get storm at that point so thats 200 gas wasted not going towards sentries and BAM its just an utter rapestomp because the toss has no forcefields
holy that this is genius. this is so genius the idea just appeared to me in my head
holy crap thats gonna pwn... gonna use this on ladder asap
mutas to the rescue!! mutas will destroy those pesky sentries
His build loses to a 7 gate push though.. If lure was decisive enough and do a 7 gate instead of expanding, he would have won earlier.
yeah i guess theres a reason every toss massively scouts for mutas, because of that situation i described above smart fast muta play can demolish forcefields.
in the game itself july was allowed to play extremely greedy and get tons of bases and muta tech for free... i guess its not a very good example july was allowed to be extremely greedy that game
GSL wastes no time I guess. Offseason, what's that? Although there is a reasonable period between up/downs and the start of the next actual season. Code S starts June 11th.
I think this is because they want to get the Code S roster finalized as quickly as possible, so they can work on production and stories.
If Sundance is to be believed, U&D was originally supposed to be two weeks later, conflicting with Anaheim, but "the players chose" MLG.
If I had the choice between playing my up/downs 2 weeks earlier and going to MLG or not going to MLG and playing it two weeks later I would pick go to MLG, seems like an obvious choice with the chance to win money/fame.
Yep. Here's the quote from the recent GameSpot interview:
GS: What happened with GomTV?
SD: You know, we grew really quickly and started making some money, wanted to do more, and the players came back saying nice things about us, and it's like…competition? Partnership? It's like, you're not gonna do it the way we want to so they went out and got a new partner, which is great, and I hope it continues to work. But I can't worry about that, we've got Anaheim coming up here in a couple weeks and they made this behind-the-scenes announcement that Up & Down matches would be at the same time. Well, all of the players chose us. I think that should tell you something.
5.00 EG_JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position. ByunPrime spawning as the green Terran in the 2 o'clock position.
Barracks first into gas for Byun. Gateway and double gas for JYP.
Cybernetics Core for JYP. Byun adding on a Factory, taking a second gas.
Warpgate tech on the way for JYP. Starport on the way for Byun, next to the Factory. Tech lab added on to the Factory.
Nexus going up for JYP.
10.00 Cloak and Banshee on the way for Byun. 2 more Gateways started for JYP. First obs on the way.
Robotics Bay on the way for JYP! 2 more Barracks started by Byun.
Banshee goes into the natural, kills six Probes before the Observer arrives. Byun pulls back. Third gas down for JYP.
Stalker and Observer falls right outside the main of Byun. Siege tech started by Byun.
Byun is moving out. Colossus out for JYP, no range.
Colossus range started.
12.00 Byun pulling ahuge amount of SCV.
Byun triest to push in but nice forcefields block them back. Byun now sieging up the natural. Second Colo pops out.
Byun takes out the Observer and the Banshee are going to town on the COlossus! JYP runs away as Byun goes into the main. The Stalkers run back, but they're shelled to death.
This is what makes sportman in individual sports anyway, when your on a slump how the hell do you fight your way out of it. JYP has been in a slump and it really seems to be getting to him Keep fighting JYP!
On May 21 2012 19:03 poorcloud wrote: JYP is inexplicably bad against terran for some reason. Now his PvZ is not looking so hot either. Really doubt that hes code S level now.
his pvz still looking hot dont judge him from 1 game vs nestea ..
On May 21 2012 19:03 IshinShishi wrote: After watching those games I'm really wondering if some of the PL guys have any catching up to do.
After watching the PL games I would say yes.
They've got sick micro, but they're pretty much mid to low masters players for the time being. I think a lot of them have the potential to absolutely dominate in a couple of months though.
On May 21 2012 19:03 IshinShishi wrote: After watching those games I'm really wondering if some of the PL guys have any catching up to do.
Proleague games have all been awful compared to current SC2 standards.
Did Flash play yet?
Yeah, got rolled by Effort. Went CC first, Effort took a fast third. Then Flash took a fast third and maxed on basically marine medivac with like 3 tanks. Got cleaned up by 2 waves of muta/ling/bane.
On May 21 2012 19:03 IshinShishi wrote: After watching those games I'm really wondering if some of the PL guys have any catching up to do.
Proleague games have all been awful compared to current SC2 standards.
Did Flash play yet?
Yeah, he refused to make tanks against Muta Ling bling.
He refused to pressure at all and let EffOrt comfortably go to 3 bases with 0 damage and then when EffOrt attacked he caught Flash with his pants down, tanks weren't sieged and marines weren't pre-split.
On May 21 2012 19:03 IshinShishi wrote: After watching those games I'm really wondering if some of the PL guys have any catching up to do.
Sure, they have a LOT of catching up to do, mostly in the decision making department, but that's normal since they don't know the game well yet. Micro and macro looked pretty well. Once he learns the game JD is gonna be a total beast at SC2, his macro was almost flawless, and his tactics were really well thought, he just didn't know WTF to do lol.
On May 21 2012 19:03 IshinShishi wrote: After watching those games I'm really wondering if some of the PL guys have any catching up to do.
Proleague games have all been awful compared to current SC2 standards.
What do you mean? Letting marines run up against a ramp against a protoss with ff's isn't bad right? LOL
I'd take Lizzy over JYP any day and Reality played TvP like a boss.
Lizzy was b-team on NSHS lol. You're just judging someone playing passably well vs people playing at a significantly lower level and thinking he's playing good starcraft.
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July vs NesTea. We saw some epic ZvZ before between them =)
The proleague games were bad... Its pure bias if you honestly think that they are better than Code A or Up/Down quality. The carrier game was fun though!
4.20 StarTale_July spawning as the orange Zerg in the 11 o'clock position. LG-IM NesTea spawning as the green Zerg in the 5 o'clock position.
10-pool inc. from NesTea, with double Extractor trick. 15 Hatchery from July.
NesTea scouts the hatch. 16 gas from July.
NesTea is pulling all but 4 Drones! hatch is cancelled by July!
Pool is only halfway done for July, NesTea is at the natural. Spine is on the way INSIDE of July's base! July pulls Drones to stop the Spine but NesTea arrives. All the Drones fall. Six lings pop out for July, but NesTea is prepared. The Spine is burrowed and the Lings of July fall.
man JYP he had so good showings in his last foreign tournaments.. got through the open bracket of mlg and ipl and both were so stacked but in the gsl booth he somehow chokes
On May 21 2012 19:15 MCDayC wrote: The proleague games were bad... Its pure bias if you honestly think that they are better than Code A or Up/Down quality. The carrier game was fun though!
Indeed, none of the BW players seemed to have no clue what to do(Lizzy is a SC2 pro) in SC2. I liked the carrier games, but it became boring very quickly
On May 21 2012 19:16 PradamadeR wrote: man JYP he had so good showings in his last foreign tournaments.. got through the open bracket of mlg and ipl and both were so stacked but in the gsl booth he somehow chokes
On May 21 2012 19:15 MCDayC wrote: The proleague games were bad... Its pure bias if you honestly think that they are better than Code A or Up/Down quality. The carrier game was fun though!
Indeed, none of the BW players seemed to have no clue what to do(Lizzy is a SC2 pro) in SC2. I liked the carrier games, but it became boring very quickly
Disagree, Reality and Effort seemed to have a pretty good grasp.
On May 21 2012 19:18 Big J wrote: 1a drones to defend vs ling/drone? lol, so bad by July
he has no choice, you can't surround with drone stack, if you try you will be out-surround because of the number of units nestea has.
he has a ton of choices, wait until the pool finishes before engaging, go and basetrade with spines in his base etc. It's not a good situation to be in, but 1a-ing is a sure loss, because no matter how hard you 1a, his army is superior and you lose.
On May 21 2012 19:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Up and Downs are sick for BO1 cheeses. I'd play like the worlds most safe player. Artosis style 2-Gate Robo every game.
Or zerg 11overpool with 1 more pool just in case your first pool gets taken out
On May 21 2012 19:23 FreudianTrip wrote: Up and Downs are sick for BO1 cheeses. I'd play like the worlds most safe player. Artosis style 2-Gate Robo every game.
Or zerg 11overpool with 1 more pool just in case your first pool gets taken out
JYP is just succumbing to the EG-Virus it seems.. as soon as players join that team, they decline.. Idra was the first victim, then Huk and Puma, now JYP and Thorzain (check NY performance).
I dont think any sane T would want to play a game past 7 min on Atlantis, kinda like wanting to play vs a zerg on the first belshir. Almost asking for a lose. With current mata game as well with protoss being uber strong on the late game i hope they take it out.
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the green Zerg in the 2 o'clock position. JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position.
13Pool from July. JYP is getting a Pylon in July's base.
Forge next for JYP. JYP blocks both the natural and third of July!
Pylon on the third is cancelled. Pylon on the natural is taken out and Hatchery goes down.
Nexus almost finished for JYP. July going for a really fast third.
Gateway on the way for JYP. Double gas taken by JYP.
July taking a single gas in his main.
10.00 Cybernetics Core on the way, +1 attack as well. July scouts the Pylon of JYP.
Roach Warren on the way for July. Stargate coming in, 2 more Gateways. warpgate about halfway done.
Metabolic Boost finishing up, 4 Roaches coming out. Zerglings going to try and take out a Zealot in the middle of the map, but two more Zealots arrive. Void Ray on the way. JYP taking two gas on his natural.
Zerglings and Roaches try to break the front of JYP, but Zealots are waiting, and the Void Ray is charged on an Overlord. Two Roaches and multiple lings fall.
Zealots run into the third of July, doesn't get any Drone kills, but the Queen falls. Void Ray from JYP arrives, denies any spore crawlers!
It was a pretty early roach warren, and getting the void ray allowed him to crush that attack. Probably wouldnt've done a whole lot of damage anyway, but it did absolutely nothing then and he killed all the roaches.
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the green Zerg in the 2 o'clock position. JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position.
13Pool from July. JYP is getting a Pylon in July's base.
Forge next for JYP. JYP blocks both the natural and third of July!
Pylon on the third is cancelled. Pylon on the natural is taken out and Hatchery goes down.
Nexus almost finished for JYP. July going for a really fast third.
Gateway on the way for JYP. Double gas taken by JYP.
July taking a single gas in his main.
10.00 Cybernetics Core on the way, +1 attack as well. July scouts the Pylon of JYP.
Roach Warren on the way for July. Stargate coming in, 2 more Gateways. warpgate about halfway done.
Metabolic Boost finishing up, 4 Roaches coming out. Zerglings going to try and take out a Zealot in the middle of the map, but two more Zealots arrive. Void Ray on the way. JYP taking two gas on his natural.
Zerglings and Roaches try to break the front of JYP, but Zealots are waiting, and the Void Ray is charged on an Overlord. Two Roaches and multiple lings fall.
Zealots run into the third of July, doesn't get any Drone kills, but the Queen falls. Void Ray from JYP arrives, denies any spore crawlers!
15.00 Another Queen comes to help, but it falls. Second Queen pops out of the Hatchery, and a Spore Crawler is allowed to FInish, so JYP has to pull back. The Pylon used for reinfocring was taken out.
JYP has taken a third behind this, with three more Gateways. Infestation Pit is researching Pathogen Glands for July, getting +1 armor and a macro hatch. +2 attack on the way for JYP.
Void Rays fro MJYP are taking out the Gas on the natural of July, and picking off Overlords. Blink finishing up for JYP. Burrow and +1 melee on the way for July. Infestors pop out and get a fungal on the Void Rays, but two Infestors fall for a single Void Ray.
+3 attack on the way for JYP, getting Robotics Bay. Fourth going up in the middle for July.
Infestors finally catch the second Void Ray, but another Infestor falls. JYP moving out!
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the green Zerg in the 2 o'clock position. JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position.
13Pool from July. JYP is getting a Pylon in July's base.
Forge next for JYP. JYP blocks both the natural and third of July!
Pylon on the third is cancelled. Pylon on the natural is taken out and Hatchery goes down.
Nexus almost finished for JYP. July going for a really fast third.
Gateway on the way for JYP. Double gas taken by JYP.
July taking a single gas in his main.
10.00 Cybernetics Core on the way, +1 attack as well. July scouts the Pylon of JYP.
Roach Warren on the way for July. Stargate coming in, 2 more Gateways. warpgate about halfway done.
Metabolic Boost finishing up, 4 Roaches coming out. Zerglings going to try and take out a Zealot in the middle of the map, but two more Zealots arrive. Void Ray on the way. JYP taking two gas on his natural.
Zerglings and Roaches try to break the front of JYP, but Zealots are waiting, and the Void Ray is charged on an Overlord. Two Roaches and multiple lings fall.
Zealots run into the third of July, doesn't get any Drone kills, but the Queen falls. Void Ray from JYP arrives, denies any spore crawlers!
15.00 Another Queen comes to help, but it falls. Second Queen pops out of the Hatchery, and a Spore Crawler is allowed to FInish, so JYP has to pull back. The Pylon used for reinfocring was taken out.
JYP has taken a third behind this, with three more Gateways. Infestation Pit is researching Pathogen Glands for July, getting +1 armor and a macro hatch. +2 attack on the way for JYP.
Void Rays fro MJYP are taking out the Gas on the natural of July, and picking off Overlords. Blink finishing up for JYP. Burrow and +1 melee on the way for July. Infestors pop out and get a fungal on the Void Rays, but two Infestors fall for a single Void Ray.
+3 attack on the way for JYP, getting Robotics Bay. Fourth going up in the middle for July.
Infestors finally catch the second Void Ray, but another Infestor falls. JYP moving out!
20.00 JYP pushes out, Blinks after the Infestors after getting nice forcefields ona bunch of Zerglings. observer isn't with the army and the Zergligns burrow to survive. Colo range on the way. +2 armor and Greater Spire on the way for July.
Fleet Beacon and Templar Archive on the way for JYP. Huge Zealot warpin at the main and third of July, but Zergligns arrive.
The Hgh Templars of JYP manage to feedback a bunch of Infestors but they all get taken out. JYP pushes into the fourth of July, killing all the Zerglings. Brood lords are morphing in, but the Zergligns and Infestor support fall! JYP pushes forward but Zergling reinforcements arrive, JYP falls back.
Zerglings try to run by for July but there is a Zealot at the natural and the Zerglings go to the third, which is cannoned up and has a Zealot. Multiple Probes fall though.
So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
5.00 StarTale_July spawning as the green Zerg in the 2 o'clock position. JYP spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position.
13Pool from July. JYP is getting a Pylon in July's base.
Forge next for JYP. JYP blocks both the natural and third of July!
Pylon on the third is cancelled. Pylon on the natural is taken out and Hatchery goes down.
Nexus almost finished for JYP. July going for a really fast third.
Gateway on the way for JYP. Double gas taken by JYP.
July taking a single gas in his main.
10.00 Cybernetics Core on the way, +1 attack as well. July scouts the Pylon of JYP.
Roach Warren on the way for July. Stargate coming in, 2 more Gateways. warpgate about halfway done.
Metabolic Boost finishing up, 4 Roaches coming out. Zerglings going to try and take out a Zealot in the middle of the map, but two more Zealots arrive. Void Ray on the way. JYP taking two gas on his natural.
Zerglings and Roaches try to break the front of JYP, but Zealots are waiting, and the Void Ray is charged on an Overlord. Two Roaches and multiple lings fall.
Zealots run into the third of July, doesn't get any Drone kills, but the Queen falls. Void Ray from JYP arrives, denies any spore crawlers!
15.00 Another Queen comes to help, but it falls. Second Queen pops out of the Hatchery, and a Spore Crawler is allowed to FInish, so JYP has to pull back. The Pylon used for reinfocring was taken out.
JYP has taken a third behind this, with three more Gateways. Infestation Pit is researching Pathogen Glands for July, getting +1 armor and a macro hatch. +2 attack on the way for JYP.
Void Rays fro MJYP are taking out the Gas on the natural of July, and picking off Overlords. Blink finishing up for JYP. Burrow and +1 melee on the way for July. Infestors pop out and get a fungal on the Void Rays, but two Infestors fall for a single Void Ray.
+3 attack on the way for JYP, getting Robotics Bay. Fourth going up in the middle for July.
Infestors finally catch the second Void Ray, but another Infestor falls. JYP moving out!
20.00 JYP pushes out, Blinks after the Infestors after getting nice forcefields ona bunch of Zerglings. observer isn't with the army and the Zergligns burrow to survive. Colo range on the way. +2 armor and Greater Spire on the way for July.
Fleet Beacon and Templar Archive on the way for JYP. Huge Zealot warpin at the main and third of July, but Zergligns arrive.
The Hgh Templars of JYP manage to feedback a bunch of Infestors but they all get taken out. JYP pushes into the fourth of July, killing all the Zerglings. Brood lords are morphing in, but the Zergligns and Infestor support fall! JYP pushes forward but Zergling reinforcements arrive, JYP falls back.
Zerglings try to run by for July but there is a Zealot at the natural and the Zerglings go to the third, which is cannoned up and has a Zealot. Multiple Probes fall though.
Mothership is now out for JYP!
25.00 Storm researching for JYP now. Lings run to the third of JYP again, but are deflected. July tries to go for a Hatch in the bottom right, but it's denied quickly. Armor upgrades on the way for JYP. 8 Brood lords are out for July, the last engagement is going down at the former fourth of July.
Five brood lrods are caught in the Vortex, Stalkers blink after the remaining three, and take out two of them. Zerglings stream in and the Stalkers pull back. The Brood lords come out of the Vortex and die really fast. As the last Brood lord falls, GG is called.
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
On May 21 2012 19:47 MrCon wrote: Nestea vs Byun will be cool at least, unless it's a cheese or they're both qualified already.
I'm worried because it's last. It'll probably be a cheese or an extremely standard tvz as not to reveal anything unless one of the players has code s still on the line
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
Right, so it's Nestea (at worst 3-1) and GKP (at worst 2-2, but nobody can tie him) vs Lure and JYP (at best 2-2). Nestea and GKP advance.
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
its a sad statement for teh interwebz that even at such a way above-average community like TL you cant expect to get real results with open poll rating systems... are people just voting stupidly out of spite?
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
If NesTea > Lure
NesTea 3 - 0 GKP 2 - 0 Lure 1 - 2 JYP 1 - 2
No-one can get 3 wins, so NesTea is guaranteed to go through. Lure vs JYP is the only match left for the two 1-2s, and they have both lost to GKP so even if one ends up 2-2, GKP advances through head-to-head.
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
Right, so it's Nestea (at worst 3-1) and GKP (at worst 2-2, but nobody can tie him) vs Lure and JYP (at best 2-2). Nestea and GKP advance.
Could be the shortest U&D ever (in the new format)
hmmm i think JYP is actually already out. the worst nestea and byun can do is 2-2 (and one of them is going 3-1 at least) and JYP lost to both and can go 2-2 at best, so he loses the tiebreaker.
Lure is the only one who can make it over Nestea or Byun, he would need things to go really right for him though.
On May 21 2012 19:45 jobber123rd wrote: So with a win in the next game against Lure, would Nestea end the group? He'd be in, of course, and nobody could catch up with GKP (JYP & Lure could get to 2-2, but both have lost to GKP already).
It's the top two that go to Code S, so it wouldn't be over.
And that would be Nestea and GKP if Mr. tea wins
The best lure and JYP could do after that is 2-2, GKP is already at 2-0 and has beat both lure and JYP.
On May 21 2012 19:50 opterown wrote: hmmm i think JYP is actually already out. the worst nestea and byun can do is 2-2 (and one of them is going 3-1 at least) and JYP lost to both and can go 2-2 at best, so he loses the tiebreaker.
Lure is the only one who can make it over Nestea or Byun, he would need things to go really right for him though.
No, JYP can make a three-way tie if Lure beats Nestea and if JYP beats Lure.
A lost two-way tie can be still be saved as a three-way tie sometimes.
5.00 MVPLure spawning as the orange Protoss in the 8 o'clock position. LG-IM NesTea spawning as the green Zerg in the 2 o'clock position.
Pool first for NesTea. Forge Fast expand for Lure.
Hatchery down for NesTea. Nexus on the way for Lure.
NesTea goes for a fast third. Lure finishes up his wall with a Cibernetics Core. First gas taken for NesTea. Third is scouted by a Probe.
10.00 Warpgate tech started by Lure. Third finishes up for NesTea.
Lure taking third gas on the natural, adding on a Robotics Facility. Metabolic Boost started by NesTea.
Lure taking the fourth gas and getting +1 attack. Lair started by NesTea.
Lure adding on 4 Gateways. 4 Gas taken by NesTea.
Immortal production started. Spire coming in for NesTea.
Another two Gateways added on for Lure. +1 armor started by Lure.
Macro Hatchery on the way for NesTea, adding on an Evolution Chamber. Warp Prism on the way for Lure, moving out with Sentry, Zealot, Immortal.
NesTea wants to run by with Zerglings but there's a complete wall with Sentries and Cannons. Lure is attacking the third of NesTea, and it falls!
Mutalisks from NesTea heading to Lure's main!
15.00 Lure attacks into the natural of NesTea, right into the Spine Crawlers! The Mutalisks of NesTea take down the cannon and sentries on the wall of Lure, zerglings run in and take down the buildings breaking the wall down. The Zerlings run further into the base.
NesTea sending to drones out of his third! The entire main of Lure has been cleaned up! THe natural of Lure now falling to lings and mutas.
lure pulling back towards his main. NesTea has rebuilt a Hatch in the top rihgt! The last pylons int he base of Lure falls, but Lure manages to throw up a single Pylon, which he guards with his army. NesTea feels confident enough to run in wiht lings and Mutas, and take out everysingle anti-air unit. GG is called!
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
He was just going for mutas. By making the decision to go for mutas, he forwent any chance at holding that push. As soon as he scouted it was coming, he knew this. Greedy or not, a base trade scenario was eminent the moment both players made their decisions.
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
And..? If protoss had just split his probes instead of 1 move them, he might have won. I don't get your point. Muta ling is a base trade compo, you can't take a protoss head on with that compo
For the first time in history, casters nailed the group standings and possibilities xD
Only because the Creator of the Universe felt bad for them and telepathically guided them to the correct results.
Nah gods dont interfere with mortal matters, his mere aura though was able to enhance the thought process of artosis and kaldor enough for them to figure it out
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
And..? If protoss had just split his probes instead of 1 move them, he might have won. I don't get your point. Muta ling is a base trade compo, you can't take a protoss head on with that compo
Splitting probes didn't matter because, regardless of how many probes survived, Lure needed to defend a Pylon. He can't kill NesTea's stuff quick enough. And it turned out that he had lost too much to the spines to be able to defend it.
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
He was just going for mutas. By making the decision to go for mutas, he forwent any chance at holding that push. As soon as he scouted it was coming, he knew this. Greedy or not, a base trade scenario was eminent the moment both players made their decisions.
I just think its silly that basetrade is a valid strategy, "I cant ever beat your army but you cant win anyways"..
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
And..? If protoss had just split his probes instead of 1 move them, he might have won. I don't get your point. Muta ling is a base trade compo, you can't take a protoss head on with that compo
Probes didnt really matter IMO.. I just dont think basetrade should be a valid strategy, mutas are so good ad basetrading and it looks so cheap.. DOnt blaame nestea obviously, he made the right decision.. Still looks silly
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
And..? If protoss had just split his probes instead of 1 move them, he might have won. I don't get your point. Muta ling is a base trade compo, you can't take a protoss head on with that compo
Splitting probes didn't matter because, regardless of how many probes survived, Lure needed to defend a Pylon. He can't kill NesTea's stuff quick enough. And it turned out that he had lost too much to the spines to be able to defend it.
so what do we learn here? Immortals are not good when your opponent goes Mutalisks. Not because they can't shoot them, but because you can't defend them as you won't have enough stalker support or blink. It's not Nestea who flipped the coin, it was Lure by going for a anti-roach push.
On May 21 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote: Sorry for the wait the OP is updated now, I was rushing to edit everything in since the day ended early.
can you link the last three games of the LR to some random links? :D to prevent spoilerage hahaha
goodjob though man! i only caught a few of the final games though
yup, that's the one thing I forgot haha. I figured i'd leave the player total scores until the end and it all ended suddenly so I rushed to edit crossing out the non played games, results, total scores, and add in the LR.
On May 21 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote: Sorry for the wait the OP is updated now, I was rushing to edit everything in since the day ended early.
can you link the last three games of the LR to some random links? :D to prevent spoilerage hahaha
goodjob though man! i only caught a few of the final games though
yup, that's the one thing I forgot haha. I figured i'd leave the player total scores until the end and it all ended suddenly so I rushed to edit crossing out the non played games, results, total scores, and add in the LR.
can only go so fast
you still did great hopefully i can do at least a few of the next days' U/D groups!
On May 21 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote: Sorry for the wait the OP is updated now, I was rushing to edit everything in since the day ended early.
can you link the last three games of the LR to some random links? :D to prevent spoilerage hahaha
goodjob though man! i only caught a few of the final games though
yup, that's the one thing I forgot haha. I figured i'd leave the player total scores until the end and it all ended suddenly so I rushed to edit crossing out the non played games, results, total scores, and add in the LR.
can only go so fast
you still did great hopefully i can do at least a few of the next days' U/D groups!
Might be without my LRs, I'm leaving to visit my parents and apply for jobs for the summer in a couple of days, and I don't think my laptop is good enough to handle... anything.
On May 21 2012 20:23 Dodgin wrote: Sorry for the wait the OP is updated now, I was rushing to edit everything in since the day ended early.
can you link the last three games of the LR to some random links? :D to prevent spoilerage hahaha
goodjob though man! i only caught a few of the final games though
yup, that's the one thing I forgot haha. I figured i'd leave the player total scores until the end and it all ended suddenly so I rushed to edit crossing out the non played games, results, total scores, and add in the LR.
can only go so fast
you still did great hopefully i can do at least a few of the next days' U/D groups!
Might be without my LRs, I'm leaving to visit my parents and apply for jobs for the summer in a couple of days, and I don't think my laptop is good enough to handle... anything.
Ahh, good luck with finding a job! I'll try and make do Hopefully someone else can do the game LR'ing
Damn, I looked at the ratings and seen Byun vs NesTea got 5 stars.. I thought damn if two incredible players did a 5 star game I gotta see this! I go on GomTV and the vod isn't up yet so I just check the results and the game wasn't played ._.
Even though I didn't see the games I did not expect Byun and Nestea to drop games to anyone except each other ;p
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
He was just going for mutas. By making the decision to go for mutas, he forwent any chance at holding that push. As soon as he scouted it was coming, he knew this. Greedy or not, a base trade scenario was eminent the moment both players made their decisions.
I just think its silly that basetrade is a valid strategy, "I cant ever beat your army but you cant win anyways"..
On May 21 2012 20:08 -y0shi- wrote: Basetrades are so shitty Zerg has no defense and plays greedy and then this happens.. bleh :/
You didn't see the 10 spines nestea put up?
"Oh I just need to stall, I win the basetrade anyways so I can just sac all my drones to do this"
He was never trying to hold that push, just stalling
And..? If protoss had just split his probes instead of 1 move them, he might have won. I don't get your point. Muta ling is a base trade compo, you can't take a protoss head on with that compo
Probes didnt really matter IMO.. I just dont think basetrade should be a valid strategy, mutas are so good ad basetrading and it looks so cheap.. DOnt blaame nestea obviously, he made the right decision.. Still looks silly
But it's not like he was planning on a base trade. Mutas are meant to give you map control, deny the Protoss his 3rd until he can deal with them, and let you take a 4th relatively safely. It just happened to be a situation where the Protoss had already planned on doing a heavy push that NesTea wouldn't be able to hold, having already chosen the spire tech path.
On May 22 2012 03:38 brokenLoL wrote: Thank NesTea that NesTea made it through. I honestly don't think Byun is a Code S level player still.
Why not, he didnt win any big tournaments, but has a great environment. Practicing with Prime guys really gives him the opportunity to develop stuff and learn from players like MKP.
Probably one of the Outsiders next Code S, but no one is undeserved there. These Up and Downs are very tough for everyone, since they are Bo1, which often favours the worse players....
I think that, now that MVP's won his 4th GSL Championship, the fire within Nestea is burning more intensely and brighter than ever before -- he wants his 4th, too. I think we'll no longer be seeing lackluster games from Nestea. Just a feeling I have, though.
On May 22 2012 05:56 skrzmark wrote: So how did nestea perform did he look well? or did his opponents just suck?
vs JYP: Absolutely massacred him. Largely because of a cleverly hidden proxy spire, but he still owned him badly.
vs July: Epitome of a build-order win, greedy 15 hatch vs 10 pool + drones. But who are we kidding? Nestea would probably eat July in a straight game anyway.
vs Lure: Looked like about midway through the match Nestea was counting on a base trade as he already had a ton of lings in position and was morphing in a lot of spines at his natural. It worked very well. Lure kinda sucked at handling it though. Got very few probes out.
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