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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1621
comon DRG!
you can do it!
moo...for DRG
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1622
On May 20 2012 06:54 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:49 Darrkhan wrote:
Polt said that he is not playing really good against zerg at the moment. I wonder what is good when he takes players like DRG and Symbol and Bly when he is in bad shape :D gogo Polt vs Stephano final


Form is off and on for many players. "At the moment" could just mean precisely that...at the moment. At this moment, he's obviously playing very well. :p

I'm going to laugh if it ends up being Heart/Violet though.


Just like MC losing to Ganzi 0-2 in Code A, then coming here and beating him 2-0. Momentum and/or mental fortitude makes up a big part of the game.
doffe
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden636 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1623
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion


And these types of comments rarely improve the LR thread either.
ashortstory
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil160 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1624
Wow I hope Heart gest knocked out. He deservs the award of the most boring player ever. Christ,
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1625
On May 20 2012 06:51 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:51 HowardRoark wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:49 Azarkon wrote:
Stephano faces Heart.

This is going to be a great match.

Today or tomorrow`?

Schedule says today I believe.

Well it depends where you are located but basically yes. Check the schedule tab here, you can select your time zone :
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 19 2012 21:56 GMT
#1626
On May 20 2012 06:56 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:55 Derrida wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:54 dragonborn wrote:
2-1 DRG
2-1 Symbol
2-1 Leenock

polt's new achivement: beating top 3 ZvTers in one tournament :D


huh? violet beat leenock 2-1

he beat leenock on online qualifiers.


ah ok. well as a P player myself, polt is responsible for tvz becoming my favorite matchup to spectate T_T
#1 Grubby Fan.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
May 19 2012 21:57 GMT
#1627
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion


Guessing you didn't play BW? Broodlords are a stupid unit and I'm glad zerg are trying to get Ultras to work and play zerg as the swarm race it's meant to be.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 21:59:56
May 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#1628
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion


It's about tempo, momentum, speed and mobility. Broodlords can win fights, but they can't force fights. You need to get the game into a position where you can force the right battle before the broodlords are worth it. Ultralisks are not as good at winning battles, but they can always force one.

Sometimes going broodlord first gives up your momentum because you're not in a position to force that battle. Sometimes the terran is playing in a way that you can force that battle right away. It's not easy to explain, but it's something zerg players get used to and understand, and I guess you don't really pick it up by spectating, based on the sheer number of complaints about the broodlord and ultralisk decision in live report threads.

Was that a bit better, mr biscuit?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 19 2012 21:58 GMT
#1629
I know that Grubby is one of the two european hopes left in this tournament... but I just got to root for ryung!
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#1630
On May 20 2012 06:57 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion


Guessing you didn't play BW? Broodlords are a stupid unit and I'm glad zerg are trying to get Ultras to work and play zerg as the swarm race it's meant to be.


Broodlords are way cooler than Guardians.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#1631
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion

TB, a possible reason behind the increased ultralisks is that Zerg makes more queen now, and with ultralisks with conjuction with queens heal it could possible be a good combo. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to work/ the players don't seem to be able to actually do it.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#1632
any updates on Grubby vs ryung?
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#1633
On May 20 2012 06:59 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion

TB, a possible reason behind the increased ultralisks is that Zerg makes more queen now, and with ultralisks with conjuction with queens heal it could possible be a good combo. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to work/ the players don't seem to be able to actually do it.


Also, the lack of Mutas makes upgrading air much less viable than upgrading melee (for ling/festor), so Ultras can benefit from the armour and attack upgrades easily.
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
May 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#1634
On May 20 2012 06:51 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:47 Thomanson wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:45 emis wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:42 Thomanson wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:41 Spekulatius wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:40 Thomanson wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:39 EdouarKiLL wrote:
Didier Dogbaa LALALA !!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler +


=D


The fuck is that? Whatever it is, it isn't MLG Spring Arena 2 related.

Champions League, bro.


Ah, current events. Fair enough. I don't follow Euro Football. My bad.


Euro Football??? There were said to be up to a billion people watching.


Euro Football to distinguish it from what I usually call Football. Didn't want to use the dreaded 'S' word on the internet. XD
Just not my thing I guess. I mean, NBA and NHL playoffs are going on too, and I've got almost no interest in them either. Baseball is mid-season, which is so long I can't be arsed to care until later in the season. It's the...agonizingly slow time of year for College Football fans.


College Handegg you mean. Dont get me wrong, I love handegg, its a great sport. but calling it football without using your feet(well, not alot atleast) and with no ball is just wrong. Dont recall who im quoting with Handegg but I found it hilarious so thats what Ill call it from now on =)

John Cleese I believe.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Yannosh
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium93 Posts
May 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#1635
Do you have to pay in order to watch the whole thing? I'm getting the subscribe screen all the time when I try to watch the stream... Can anyone help please? thanks
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
May 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#1636
On May 20 2012 06:59 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion

TB, a possible reason behind the increased ultralisks is that Zerg makes more queen now, and with ultralisks with conjuction with queens heal it could possible be a good combo. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to work/ the players don't seem to be able to actually do it.

According to what Stephano said on stream, it's because it's very hard to defend drops against a good T with broodlords because they are so slow. That's why a lot of Z are going ultra rather than BL until they are pretty sure T can't drop them as effectively.
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26301 Posts
May 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#1637
On May 20 2012 07:01 polyphonyEX wrote:
any updates on Grubby vs ryung?

Looking OK for Grubby here, has his third up and running. Had a big engage at his third and lost a few collosi but traded reasonably well. Grubby's 2/2 at around 40%, Ryung at about half for 3/3
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ashortstory
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil160 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 22:03:10
May 19 2012 22:02 GMT
#1638
double post
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#1639
On May 20 2012 06:58 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion


It's about tempo, momentum, speed and mobility. Broodlords can win fights, but they can't force fights. You need to get the game into a position where you can force the right battle before the broodlords are worth it. Ultralisks are not as good at winning battles, but they can always force one.

Sometimes going broodlord first gives up your momentum because you're not in a position to force that battle. Sometimes the terran is playing in a way that you can force that battle right away. It's not easy to explain, but it's something zerg players get used to and understand, and I guess you don't really pick it up by spectating, based on the sheer number of complaints about the broodlord and ultralisk decision in live report threads.

Was that a bit better, mr biscuit?

I am not zerg myself but I do think zergs need more options for the late game. Ultras and broodlords are not enough. Hope this will be fixed in HotS.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#1640
On May 20 2012 07:01 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 06:59 Integra wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:51 Oboeman wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:47 roymarthyup wrote:
On May 20 2012 06:46 takingbackoj wrote:
I understand why zergs dont want to use broodlords against Terran but when a player can make banelings so useless like polt can you have to use broodlords. Theres no other option really.

i dont understand why zergs dont wanna use broods... every time i see a zerg win a even macro game with terran its either broods or nothing

ultras only win stomps that the zerg woulda won doing anything


Zerg players understand why they don't go broodlords. It's not a numbers thing, at all. It's a starcraft thing.


This right here is why LR threads are so terrible. Pretentious statements with no explanation at all that encourages stupid arguments rather than legit discussion

TB, a possible reason behind the increased ultralisks is that Zerg makes more queen now, and with ultralisks with conjuction with queens heal it could possible be a good combo. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to work/ the players don't seem to be able to actually do it.


Also, the lack of Mutas makes upgrading air much less viable than upgrading melee (for ling/festor), so Ultras can benefit from the armour and attack upgrades easily.

Doesn't make sense since Broodlords DPS comes from the spawned broodlings which are upgraded from melee and carpace, same as ultralisks.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
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