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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#4801
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.


GSL players would suck harder at BW then BW players are sucking at SC2 so no .
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 10:29:20
May 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#4802
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.

in a normal game you scout and if you see protoss do mass carriers you go in and kill him. or you make mass corruptor/muta army and fight back lol.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4803
Yeah funny strat and sub par response from the zerg, but that was a crisp execution from the protoss. Guardian shielding his air units, cloaking cannons with mothership, incredibly alert with his high templars. I liked that game!
"NO" -Has
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4804
On May 20 2012 19:28 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.

in a normal game you scout and if you see protoss do mass carriers you go in and kill him.


Well he meant if protoss actually gets to have that army.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 10:29:48
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4805
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


It was as much decided by upgrades as anything else. The Carriers were 3/1 during the first engagement, and the Corruptors were 1/0.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4806
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.


entertainment duh

i don't get how the swedish football league is supposed to survive when they're all terrible, why would you watch that when you can watch barcelona
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4807
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


uhh well corruptors and infestors should shut that down, he just didn't have a good count of either.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 20 2012 10:29 GMT
#4808
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.

Honestly, I think I'm enjoying this much more than any GSL. It's refreshing. It makes you want to cheer for them, and you know they will get so much better.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#4809
On May 20 2012 19:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


I don't think there's anything you can do. You cant engage headon because every single unit comp gets evaporated and you cant counterattack because the mothership is in position to cloak the cannons and you cant have detection present because it will get roflstomped in seconds anyway. It's basically checkmate haha


Stephano did it.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
May 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#4810
On May 20 2012 19:28 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:26 OpTiKDream wrote:
proleague = protoss is the better race

GSL = Terran is the better race

its fun seeing the proleague have their own strategies, like a completely different metagame lolololol
m17's game is like wtflol


Because, just like in ladder, in bronze protoss owns and in GM terran demolishes :D.

There's plenty of protoss in both Code S and Top 15 KR GM.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
May 20 2012 10:30 GMT
#4811
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.


well if you don't like it don't watch.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
May 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#4812
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


Mass corrupters with fungal + neural + corruption support demolishes protoss air at any stage. He just kept constantly building useless lings and roaches.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
May 20 2012 10:31 GMT
#4813
On May 20 2012 19:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:28 Integra wrote:
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.

in a normal game you scout and if you see protoss do mass carriers you go in and kill him.


Well he meant if protoss actually gets to have that army.


You zone them out with spores and get broodlords to do the siege work. With transfuses around, and spores targetting any interceptors from carriers trying to be cute, it'll eventually be a slow push to their base while taking over the entire map.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4814
Look at that control. He didn't blindly make air. He used it correctly.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4815
On May 20 2012 19:27 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


I don't think there's anything you can do. You cant engage headon because every single unit comp gets evaporated and you cant counterattack because the mothership is in position to cloak the cannons and you cant have detection present because it will get roflstomped in seconds anyway. It's basically checkmate haha


Mass queens
savior did nothing wrong
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4816
I love how he didnt overmake carriers, he had mostly voids
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4817
On May 20 2012 19:29 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:28 Integra wrote:
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.

in a normal game you scout and if you see protoss do mass carriers you go in and kill him.


Well he meant if protoss actually gets to have that army.

Infestor/Corruptor. Ezpz.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4818
On May 20 2012 19:29 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.

Honestly, I think I'm enjoying this much more than any GSL. It's refreshing. It makes you want to cheer for them, and you know they will get so much better.


Yes I agree. This is very refreshing. Part of me doesn't like it just because it's alot of strain on the players, and the system doesn't allow them to improve as quick as they could. But, on the other hand, it's nice to not see the same few strats over and over, which I kinda feel SC2 has stagnated to.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4819
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.

They only had 1 month to practice + they have to practice broodwar same time. U honestly expect them to keep up with GSL players who played for over 2 years while brood war players play 1 month?
Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States366 Posts
May 20 2012 10:32 GMT
#4820
The feedbacks were quite good.
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