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50bani
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Romania480 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4781
So far Protoss has not lost any game, right? And Terrans haven't won any, right?
Kespa SC2 players are a bit weak though, a lot of weird stuff happening in these games, feels like Open Season 1 but they copy better builds.
The interesting thing is a year ago I would have thought Protosses would have the hardest time transitioning
I'm posting on twoplustwo because I have always been amazed at the level of talent that populates this site --- it's almost unparalleled on the Internet.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4782
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4783
On May 20 2012 19:24 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:23 GreyKnight wrote:
the way these players treat these sc2 matches...it's more like showmatches where they goof around..


I am sure this is how they play for real at this moment. It looks goofy for us because it's so old and underused now.

I don't know some of these seem current. I figure most of the strats will be on par with whats current since ladder is the big practice. However no clue where skytoss came from.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 10:27:43
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4784
Liked the neat stuff he did. Seemed pretty clean and clever never overextending and utilizing all the abilities in the protoss arsenal.

Hope this stuff keeps on occurring. BW pro level always had a bit more craziness to it than sc2, since people prepared so much for specific matches. More weird builds!
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4785
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.


KESPA has starpower and brand name though. Look at how the stream crashed because Flash was playing
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4786
Is there any chance we'll see Jangbi playing next match?
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4787
Screw Diablo 3 tomorrow. I'm going to practice some Carrier builds for PvZ xD
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4788
I was watching the add for the shooting game that OGN broadcasts... I swear it had the whole team standing on top of each other in teh corner at one point, or am I going mad?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 20 2012 10:26 GMT
#4789
On May 20 2012 19:26 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:24 Elwar wrote:
On May 20 2012 19:23 Waywatcher wrote:
On May 20 2012 19:22 Ryps wrote:
How do you tell this game is bad ? toss makes carriers and wins XD


No as soon as he has (a lot of) carriers he should win. You know its bad because he doesnt get killed while he is making carriers

Carriers aren't good when you get a lot of them. They're countered very nicely (per supply) by corruptors, infestors, queens.


Spores also help a lot, spread creep and move them with your army. I have seen BiGs doing it against HasuUbs. HasuObs sometimes also goes carriers, but only in the lategame.


A couple GSLs back MC cost himself the Ro8 by going fast 3 base big air (instead of say fast 3 base 10 gate push) and lost the game because he made tons of stuff.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4790
For the people who are wondering, the dps of that air army comes from the voids, not the carriers. The carriers are there mostly as meatshields and to snipe infestors. Feedbacks are key though, although I believe roro managed to neural a templar and feedback the mothership(correct me if I'm wrong).
Porouscloud - NA LoL
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4791
On May 20 2012 19:26 50bani wrote:
So far Protoss has not lost any game, right? And Terrans haven't won any, right?
Kespa SC2 players are a bit weak though, a lot of weird stuff happening in these games, feels like Open Season 1 but they copy better builds.
The interesting thing is a year ago I would have thought Protosses would have the hardest time transitioning


sc2 terran has looked terrible today
savior did nothing wrong
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4792
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.


because people want to watch BW?

and also because while not very good skill wise, these games are undeniably quite entertaining
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4793
Man, that was some really good play. I really liked the way guardian shield was used constantly to aid the air force vs hydras and corruptors. Moving back your mothership in anticipation of the zerg counter-attack was a nice touch too. Great game, perhaps there is hope for SC2 after all.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4794
On May 20 2012 19:24 Junichi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:22 Eluadyl wrote:
This feels so weird, don't know what to say (this is the most meaningless thing I've posted on TL)


That's what she said.






On topic: Wow these games really look like old games from GSL or something.


Time travel with no flux capacitor needed.

Awesome
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4795
On May 20 2012 19:24 SkelA wrote:
Obviously its gonna be FBH vs Stork/Jangbi next game .


Stork would be the third match in BW, but could be Jangbi
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4796
white ra played this style often vs stephano and stephano countered it with early aggression and constant trading , not to hard at all
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4797
On May 20 2012 19:26 Hokay wrote:
Screw Diablo 3 tomorrow. I'm going to practice some Carrier builds for PvZ xD

Prepare for some massive loss streak
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 20 2012 10:27 GMT
#4798
On May 20 2012 19:26 SkelA wrote:
Serious question : Is it possible for Zerg to win against that type of composition ?

Looks impossible to win to me if you let the Protoss get to that stage.


I don't think there's anything you can do. You cant engage headon because every single unit comp gets evaporated and you cant counterattack because the mothership is in position to cloak the cannons and you cant have detection present because it will get roflstomped in seconds anyway. It's basically checkmate haha
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#4799
On May 20 2012 19:26 OpTiKDream wrote:
proleague = protoss is the better race

GSL = Terran is the better race

its fun seeing the proleague have their own strategies, like a completely different metagame lolololol
m17's game is like wtflol


Because, just like in ladder, in bronze protoss owns and in GM terran demolishes :D.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 20 2012 10:28 GMT
#4800
On May 20 2012 19:27 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 19:25 tommym wrote:
I just don't get how Kespa are supposed to survive when the level of play is so low. Why would you want to watch this instead of GSL? No disrespect, I get that these players are very good at BW and probably any RTS.

Just the business aspect of it. Seems like Kespa is taking a huge risk. Wouldn't it be smarter to bring the GSL players and get high level games to bring over the audience? The BW guys would catch up faster too.


because people want to watch BW?

and also because while not very good skill wise, these games are undeniably quite entertaining


I havent been so entertained by SC2 in a long while

Well okay, yesterday. But you get what im saying. This is just a rollercoaster of awesome.
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