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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1621
Can't wait for Global play to start so we(foreigners) can go back to Bronze where we belong and stop pretending that we understand the game enough to call imbalances
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1622
MVP is pretty conservative with his OC- he could totally get away with building it at his nat.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1623
On May 10 2012 19:11 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:10 architecture wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:08 Lorch wrote:
Now dear terrans:
This was not due to lategame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that terran can't win past the 15 min mark. That was mvp having 2 terrible engagements and overmaking vikiings. Also he put 0 pressure on parting, this was pretty much like leaving zerg alone and let them get 15 min brood/infestor while you overmake marauder.


My dear protoss:

This was not due to earlygame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that protoss can't survive before the 15 min mark. That was parting having 2 terrible engagements.

My dear randoms:

I am enjoying pizza right now.


Me too. Pizza is so good
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
1ns4n3
Profile Joined September 2011
117 Posts
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1624
On May 10 2012 19:07 ES.Genie wrote:
Now that was anticlimatic :D


Congratulations on making a sentence using the most overused adjective on TL forums.
:D
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1625
On May 10 2012 19:12 architecture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:11 Firesilver wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:11 Bwaaaa wrote:
MVP made too many vikings for only 2 collosus.


Yeah, this was a big problem.


He had 8 vikings. Protoss had 2 colo. A mismatch of 4 food?


you sure it was 8? looked like more at the time.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:14:05
May 10 2012 10:13 GMT
#1626
On May 10 2012 19:10 Darkong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:09 zocktol wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:07 Zealously wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:06 Meiffeltower wrote:
parting so lucky


Just like MVP was lucky the last two games? Don't bring luck in; they're skilled players but both make mistakes, which is one the other player will capitalize.


Parting got lucky, that MVP's army was completely out of position and spread out while he tried to get into position.
Also MVP's micro was bad.
Not to take anything away from Parting, who played well that game and had really good storms.

That's not luck, that's poor play by MVP.

Just one of the pitfalls of using bio TvP. Army needs constant babysitting or it could be devastated in an instant. MVP looked like he hit decent EMPs but losing all those medivacs and so much supply of bio was too much. Parting capitalized, MVP didn't necessarily get unlucky, and Parting definitely took that win.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 10 2012 10:14 GMT
#1627
On May 10 2012 19:11 Juliette wrote:
Mvp vs PartinG

Set 1
Set 2
Set 3

Set 4:
Red T12 LG-IMMvp <Metropolis> Pink P6 ST_PartinG

Sorry, my internet lagged a bit so I missed part of the game.

7:30
1 Gate expand -> 3 gate robo vs 1 barracks expand + Stim, Factory.

Ebay being added too.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
May 10 2012 10:14 GMT
#1628
Come on MVP!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Terran really ought to have burrow.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Elektrobear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
108 Posts
May 10 2012 10:14 GMT
#1629
On May 10 2012 19:10 Diogenes wrote:
MvP got intercepted and took too much damage. He didn't have any drop ships to heal and thus the next engagement was gg. MvP did what he could do.

Anyways, map was imba for terran, Parting was heavily favored and easily got maxed. IMO, which will get flamed, Parting is heavily overhyped. He exploits end-game imba for protoss. His micro/decision-making is not on the level of previous GSL champions. Hopefuly MVP pulls it out.




So apparently, parting is not microing on the level of other gsl champions.

HE'S MICROING BETTER!
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
May 10 2012 10:14 GMT
#1630
On May 10 2012 19:13 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:10 Darkong wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:09 zocktol wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:07 Zealously wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:06 Meiffeltower wrote:
parting so lucky


Just like MVP was lucky the last two games? Don't bring luck in; they're skilled players but both make mistakes, which is one the other player will capitalize.


Parting got lucky, that MVP's army was completely out of position and spread out while he tried to get into position.
Also MVP's micro was bad.
Not to take anything away from Parting, who played well that game and had really good storms.

That's not luck, that's poor play by MVP.

Just one of the pitfalls of using bio TvP. Army needs constant babysitting or it could be devastated in an instant. MVP looked like he hit decent EMPs but losing all those medivacs and so much supply of bio was too much. Parting capitalized, MVP didn't necessarily get unlucky, but Parting definitely took that win.


Has very little to do with hitting EMPs, more to do with position. You can't be on open ground, unless you have a shitton of ghosts or medivacs.
tpfkan
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 10 2012 10:14 GMT
#1631
On May 10 2012 19:12 Shaddar wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:11 ceaRshaf wrote:
I am just glad the next match is a pvp. We will see great micro and decision making. This mu is so fucked up and not enjoyable from a viewers perspective.


Haha I never thought I'd look forward to watching a PvP match


Both ZvP and TvP are dumb matchups. Starting to see a pattern But yeah, both Squirtle and HerO are going to play for macro matches because they are not afraid to do so. Hope the games are good so I don't waste so much time watching this.
리노크 👑
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1632
PartinG playing super standard, Mvp playing super standard.....
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:16:40
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1633
On May 10 2012 19:11 teamamerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:08 Lorch wrote:
Now dear terrans:
This was not due to lategame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that terran can't win past the 15 min mark. That was mvp having 2 terrible engagements and overmaking vikiings. Also he put 0 pressure on parting, this was pretty much like leaving zerg alone and let them get 15 min brood/infestor while you overmake marauder.



How did he not pressure. You realize he was putting on Pressure by having his army out on the map, taking a third WAY earlier then Parting. You can't magically make a dropship get into the Protoss base when the Toss is leaving all his stalkers there and the sentries at the front. This isn't leaving Zerg alone forever AT ALL. So stupid. Yes MVP overmade vikings but as Toss lategame you pretty much amove army and then control templar. As Terran you have to kite all your bio, so pretty much once you go into kite bio mode, you lose ability to snipe templar (unless you're literally pulling 500apm in battle). That's why you see some templar snipes before the battle but once Toss started bringing them in mid battle after the ghosts weren't being controlled (or were dead as Terrans right now tend to keep ghosts in front), it's so strong. Parting played Toss perfectly though, turtling hardcore to get his deathball.



PartinG's strategy is completely disgusting. He rushed collosus to force terran to make vikings instead of medevacs, and immediately tech switched to HTs which made the vikings completely useless. THIS is why his deathball is so insanely strong - hes basically playing mindgames and forcing bad compositions from terran.

You can say spam scan or something - terran cant afford it. Not at this neck to neck play. The only way to beat this is blind countering, or having insanely good econ and getting a huge ball of everything before toss can have anything
Stop procrastinating
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1634
On May 10 2012 19:09 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Where did all this praising of cheese come from? Naniwa was such a noob for doing deadly 2 base timing a while ago.

Now MVP is a genius when he does a bunker rush. People are funny. If Naniwa had done the same the flaming would not had have any boundaries, but MVP have "champion mentallity" hence is it great.


Cheese is not some 'bad strategy.' 6 pool, FFE, triple OC, cannon rush, or whatever. It's just that some people think anything other than 30min game is cheap and boring.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1635
On May 10 2012 19:11 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:10 architecture wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:08 Lorch wrote:
Now dear terrans:
This was not due to lategame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that terran can't win past the 15 min mark. That was mvp having 2 terrible engagements and overmaking vikiings. Also he put 0 pressure on parting, this was pretty much like leaving zerg alone and let them get 15 min brood/infestor while you overmake marauder.


My dear protoss:

This was not due to earlygame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that protoss can't survive before the 15 min mark. That was parting having 2 terrible engagements.

My dear randoms:

I am enjoying pizza right now.


You may enjoy it and be aware of the vast amount of cheese on it :D
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1636
P race design is just really fucked up.

There should be no warpgate, but proper harassment unit.

AKA reaver.
tpfkan
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1637
On May 10 2012 19:14 Juliette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:11 Juliette wrote:
Mvp vs PartinG

Set 1
Set 2
Set 3

Set 4:
Red T12 LG-IMMvp <Metropolis> Pink P6 ST_PartinG

Sorry, my internet lagged a bit so I missed part of the game.

7:30
1 Gate expand -> 3 gate robo vs 1 barracks expand + Stim, Factory.

Ebay being added too.

8:00 Forge, Twilight Council for PartinG. Mvp keeps his build similar to the last. 2 tech lab barracks with Stim/Combat, Medivacs coming.

9:00 Parting adds 2 gates (3 total) and a Templar Archives.
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1638
On May 10 2012 19:11 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:10 architecture wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:08 Lorch wrote:
Now dear terrans:
This was not due to lategame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that terran can't win past the 15 min mark. That was mvp having 2 terrible engagements and overmaking vikiings. Also he put 0 pressure on parting, this was pretty much like leaving zerg alone and let them get 15 min brood/infestor while you overmake marauder.


My dear protoss:

This was not due to earlygame imbalance that you all feel like is so strong that protoss can't survive before the 15 min mark. That was parting having 2 terrible engagements.

My dear randoms:

I am enjoying pizza right now.

My dear Code-S-Zergs:

Oh, nobody there. *shrug*
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
May 10 2012 10:15 GMT
#1639
Effffffff chargelot archon. Kill him MVP...even Tasteless saying this map is hard for Terran LOL.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
May 10 2012 10:16 GMT
#1640
its not too late to replace sc2 protoss with sc bw protoss in hots, right?
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