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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
You build the roach warren in advance and make reactive roaches, only if necessary. The lings bought easily enough time for roaches to hatch and he had a 50+ drone economy. Or if you attack with lings earlier (ala drg vs mkp on that same map from spring arena) you force him to show his hellions and you may even get a ling up the ramp to see the factories, gets you the info long in advance. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:27 nkr wrote: Since Nestea still favors the mutalisk play, and was making only ling, I think the answer is quite obvious. Next question: Why didn't he make spines then if he was teching that much that quickly | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
Would've liked to see some sim city at natural though, especially since Nestea got a macro hatch. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:28 Oboeman wrote: This is why a lot of zergs prefer roach ling to ling baneling. You build the roach warren in advance and make reactive roaches, only if necessary. The lings bought easily enough time for roaches to hatch and he had a 50+ drone economy. Or if you attack with lings earlier (ala drg vs mkp on that same map from spring arena) you force him to show his hellions and you may even get a ling up the ramp to see the factories, gets you the info long in advance. It's funny I was saying the same thing since beta  well in getting an early roach warren vs reactor hellion ^^. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:27 FinestHour wrote: Yeah, saving up the gas and doing absolutely nothing is just not something you should be doing at this level... He was relying on the map to keep him safe so he could get 15+ Mutas super fast. Not poor economy management so much as hyper greed. | ||
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:27 nkr wrote: Since Nestea still favors the mutalisk play, and was making only ling, I think the answer is quite obvious. Keen knows this too and just capitalized on it. Way to greedy play there ... 2 more games to proof his strength though ... | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:29 blade55555 wrote: It's funny I was saying the same thing since beta well in getting an early roach warren vs reactor hellion ^^.I use your ZvT roach opener guide when I offrace heh. Nice and safe | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
Another 1rax FE vs 15H 17P, keen with double gas, nestea with just 1 factory for keen once more. pretty much the same as last game so far. Keen going starport with techlab on barracks, implying banshees nestea stops gas after ling speed and takes a third | ||
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taldarimAltar
973 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:29 blade55555 wrote: It's funny I was saying the same thing since beta well in getting an early roach warren vs reactor hellion ^^.I agree and this is how i've been playing now that I take a fast 3rd base. If no hellions, I may go baneling nest instead. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:29 Hassybaby wrote: Next question: Why didn't he make spines then if he was teching that much that quickly Once again quite obvious, his scouting betrayed him. If Nestea believes there's going to be 2fac hellion, he will obviously make all the shit needed to defend it. He's not dumb. I'm not trying to say he played this perfectly, he obviously didn't. I however feel people really underestimate for example how much 200 minerals hurts your zerg economy if you want it out in time to be able to defend vs hellions. Same with spines, it's a big investment into something that won't do much good vs other openings. It's all down to scouting. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:30 Juliette wrote: Another 1rax FE vs 15H 17P, keen with double gas, nestea with just 1 factory for keen once more. pretty much the same as last game so far. Keen going starport with techlab on barracks, implying banshees nestea stops gas after ling speed and takes a third Keen getting cloak with his banshees, along with continuing hellion production. Nestea has spine crawlers now, and making some extra queens. Baneling nest incoming as well, and 3rd/4th gas. No evolution chamber... | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On May 09 2012 18:31 Koshi wrote: Nestea already 1-0 behind? This is looking bad... You mean good?  | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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