• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:03
CEST 03:03
KST 10:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 224ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 ZOWIE DIVINA preview Server Blocker StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3670 users

[NASL SSD] mouzCCMorroW vs EGIdrA - Page 9

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 45 Next All
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:31:59
May 01 2012 14:30 GMT
#161
On May 01 2012 22:56 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:55 Zeetee wrote:
On May 01 2012 21:55 niteReloaded wrote:
On May 01 2012 21:41 zedi wrote:
On May 01 2012 21:20 Roxor9999 wrote:
On May 01 2012 20:01 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2012 19:23 niteReloaded wrote:
I don't rate Morrow too highly, coz I didn't see any real proof of quality lately, but based on how terribad Idra is, I think the Swede takes this...
btw Idra should either quit progaming, or hire a shrink, he's stuck in his "I should be winning because I do stuff that are 1% +EV, but since every possible circumstance is agianst me, I lose, and am frustrated - therefore ragequit to protest against those painful circumstances" mindset for too long, while for example Stephano rapes even Asian asses and goes to the bank over and over.

Hahahahah, quit progaming when he is well etablished in top10 foreigners? That's just stupid ;o You don't know Idra, and you are still able to evaluate how his mind works? Can you teach me how to do that to people I don't know?

He is definitely not a top 10 foreigner.


He definitely is though.

Stephano
Naniwa
Thorzain
Huk
are definitely better than Idra

then come
White-Ra
Sase
Ret
Kas
Sheth
Dimaga
Grubby
Socke
NightEnd
(I probably forgot some too)

Who are IMO capable of winning or losing a let's say BO7 vs Idra, depending on the form. But yeah Idra probably is top10.



Nerchio, and he belongs in the "definitely better than idra" category

Judged by what?


His result the last 6 months. Can you read stats plz and then come back and we can have this discussion again. Its pointless arguing with you when you dont even check result or stats the last 6 months you just spout useless crap without any sort of evidence to backup you enormous claims.

Whats the point of having ELO or statistic or tournaments if people like you just ignore all the facts becuase in you mind Idra is still a top competive player.


Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:33:14
May 01 2012 14:31 GMT
#162
On May 01 2012 21:55 niteReloaded wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 21:41 zedi wrote:
On May 01 2012 21:20 Roxor9999 wrote:
On May 01 2012 20:01 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2012 19:23 niteReloaded wrote:
I don't rate Morrow too highly, coz I didn't see any real proof of quality lately, but based on how terribad Idra is, I think the Swede takes this...
btw Idra should either quit progaming, or hire a shrink, he's stuck in his "I should be winning because I do stuff that are 1% +EV, but since every possible circumstance is agianst me, I lose, and am frustrated - therefore ragequit to protest against those painful circumstances" mindset for too long, while for example Stephano rapes even Asian asses and goes to the bank over and over.

Hahahahah, quit progaming when he is well etablished in top10 foreigners? That's just stupid ;o You don't know Idra, and you are still able to evaluate how his mind works? Can you teach me how to do that to people I don't know?

He is definitely not a top 10 foreigner.


He definitely is though.

Stephano
Naniwa
Thorzain
Huk
are definitely better than Idra

then come
White-Ra
Sase
Ret
Kas
Sheth
Dimaga
Grubby
Socke
NightEnd
(I probably forgot some too)

Who are IMO capable of winning or losing a let's say BO7 vs Idra, depending on the form. But yeah Idra probably is top10.

Morrow, Nerchio, Lucifron, BeastyQT, Feast... as you said, the list still may be extended, but the point is, almost any foreigner can win or lose a BO7 series against Idra at the moment.

Right now, Idra is an average foreigner, he can take series off of most other foreigners and occasionally beat top foreigners or sometimes even koreans, but that's the case for almost any full-time pro in SC2. He's in the spectrum where talking about top 10 or top 20 doesn't really matter because he's in no way significantly better than the wide range of other foreigners. And that's exactly what everyone could observe in at least the past 6 months.

However, this also indicates Idra vs. Morrow should be a good series because it can go either way.
Mutation complete.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 01 2012 14:38 GMT
#163
Predicting MorroW 4 - 2 IdrA
Riff-
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada39 Posts
May 01 2012 14:40 GMT
#164
this thread is full of all sorts of win.
this thread should be hyped more cuz its making me want to buy a pass for this showmatch!
i think i just might.
morrow/idra FIGHTING!
PAYBACK-SXE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States150 Posts
May 01 2012 14:40 GMT
#165
On May 01 2012 23:14 MorroW wrote:
good luck have fun hoping to show good games and thank you very much nasl for inviting me, i got super happy and flattered

naniwa - out of here, if you were good enough youd be invited to showmatches instead of putting up your own money. go practice for your little tournament in korea, whatever its called now i cant remember~

:-)


hahaha, yessssss. thank god I follow Morrow on twitter or I would have missed all this....cannot wait for everything that's already been put out there the last 9 pages of this thread!!!
PAYBACK ABOVE ALL ELSE
Ckalvin
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia150 Posts
May 01 2012 14:43 GMT
#166
idra vs naniwa?


YES PLEASE.
Stay calm and split drones. I'M NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I'M NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ninjahoe
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden148 Posts
May 01 2012 14:46 GMT
#167
On May 01 2012 17:53 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 17:45 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 01 2012 17:17 Irave wrote:
On May 01 2012 16:56 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 01 2012 15:35 Naniwa wrote:
On May 01 2012 15:23 IdrA wrote:
On May 01 2012 14:12 Naniwa wrote:
ahh.. they said i couldnt pick idra T_T

too bad. much as i despise that matchup you're fucking awful pvz.


^^ we can play two weeks after my gsl run and see just how awful i am

how about we both put up 1000 dollar each ^_^


Since when do professional players go all wild wild west on each other. Play a showmatch on NASL or something, why throw around these foolish claims about betting against each other. Nothing but macho showing off...

Because this is better than a NASL show match. Macho showing off? It's two respected players confident in their skill to wager their own funds, in a series against each other.


Sometimes I forget how young this community is on average. I'll bet you X on condition Y is something you do in primary school. Nowhere in professional sports do you see people putting money on the table to challenge someone. Could you imagine Tyson saying to Holyfield: "here's 20k, you and me, mano a mano"? No, right? It's silly. Nor did Jordan challenge Malone to a one on one. It's childish.

Which isn't to say that Idra and Naniwa shouldn't play the showmatch nor that I'm not looking forward to it.


Money matches happened all the time in wc3, afaik. Also, just because it doesn't happen in pro sports is not a valid argument that it shouldnt happen in sc2. Personally, i think it's awesome.


These kind of bets are soooo common, just not in SC2...
Happens all the time in poker etc.
Don't you think it happens in golf, dart, snooker, etc aswell?
I bet you it's a lot more common then you think...
NaNiwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, Jinro, DeMusliM, MorroW
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 01 2012 14:48 GMT
#168
So Naniwa all but confirmed he's going to be in one of these showmatches against a player of his choice (since he said they wouldn't let him pick Idra). In before Naniwa vs Thorzain is announced.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Ninjahoe
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden148 Posts
May 01 2012 14:54 GMT
#169
On May 01 2012 23:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:02 Seekzor wrote:
On May 01 2012 20:12 Benjamin99 wrote:
Holt shit this thread lol.

First of all I dont think Naniwa should call anyone out before he accept the showmatch with Stephano whom have been trying to get that match for like 2 months now.



I think you must have missed the part where Naniwa accepted the Showmatch and Stephano backed down .


Hmm no he didnt Stephano just didnt wanted to donate his own money but he are very interested in a showmatch. Matter infact he have wanted a showmatch for ages against Naniwa. You might want to keep up on the facts.


If there's no money on the line, why would anyone play their best?
To show good games?
Reveal new strategies just for the pride?

Yeah, that's probably it..


If you want a REAL showmatch, there has to be something on the line. Otherwise nobody will play their best...
NaNiwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, Jinro, DeMusliM, MorroW
grouperfish
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada22 Posts
May 01 2012 15:05 GMT
#170
Idra honestly can't beat anyone half-decent.
You know something's wrong when you've lost to IdrA.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
May 01 2012 15:13 GMT
#171
Now everybody is talking about IdrA vs NaniWa but what happened to the naniwa vs stephano showmatch :O
Rooting for Morrow to win 4-2 vs idrA
Twitter: @Strintern Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/strintern
subl1me
Profile Joined November 2011
Chile60 Posts
May 01 2012 15:13 GMT
#172
Holy shit Morrow, this thread is burning
An2quamaraN
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland379 Posts
May 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#173
Maybe if Idra have to put from his own pocket he will play legit games, not put up half-ass shows as those we've seen lately which make him look like a total loser?
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 01 2012 15:21 GMT
#174
On May 02 2012 00:13 subl1me wrote:
Holy shit Morrow, this thread is burning

haha dont worry

i was just joking. me and naniwa are very good friends and ive been cheering on him very much in gsl (cant describe how excited i am for nani vs mvp xD)
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Cor_Malek
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:40:19
May 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#175
On May 01 2012 20:10 Digitalis wrote:
He called him a sociopath not a psychopath.


There's no functional difference between terms sociopathy, psychopathy, antisocial personality, antisociality, sociopathic personality with antisocial reactions or personality disorder of antisocial type. They're refering to the same phenomenon, and the only difference is who is the author, and what angle he's writing given text from.
There has been suggestions to use one term sociopath for all people with the disorder, and psychopath only to those with criminal tendencies, but it never caught on, as no serious researcher will do this since there's been very little success in telling the two groups apart on any other basis than "got caught".

That said... if he called him goal oriented, fearless person that does not make needless attachements - doesn't seen like such a bad thing. Though I'm not sure where he got superficial niceness vibe from Nani, that's kind of a biggie.

PS.: or it was just a homage to:
Two little goblins out in the sun. Down came a griffin, and there was one.
max1337
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany51 Posts
May 01 2012 15:30 GMT
#176
Nani is a practice monster and after a few weeks of practice with July and Curious i doubt IdrA can beat him... not zvp
KTFlash!
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 01 2012 15:36 GMT
#177
On May 01 2012 15:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 15:35 Naniwa wrote:
On May 01 2012 15:23 IdrA wrote:
On May 01 2012 14:12 Naniwa wrote:
ahh.. they said i couldnt pick idra T_T

too bad. much as i despise that matchup you're fucking awful pvz.


^^ we can play two weeks after my gsl run and see just how awful i am

how about we both put up 1000 dollar each ^_^

k, only if its played on na/not cross server.


easy 2k for Naniwa? Based on IdrA's recent ZvP (HuK LOLLLLLL) i would put money on naniwa.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
May 01 2012 15:37 GMT
#178
As an Idra fan I sure hope he doesn't decide to 6 pool if he start losing. Has a bad habit of doing that in show matches. Should be easy for Idra if he plays well.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:49:46
May 01 2012 15:44 GMT
#179
People who are trash talking Idra and Naniwa need to grow the fuck up. Please it's embarrassing to see those sort of posts and they're the reasons why pros don't post at TL more. I'm going to go a step further and say that haters are retarded. This is esports, not football. If you want to legitimize esports you can't have fans trash talking like teenagers on Xbox live. Being a fan of a player is great. "Hating" a player, ie openly being an asshole to someone who's contributed more to the scene than you probably ever will, is stupid. You have every right to not like X or Y player, but openly berating a player for a reason that doesn't involve that player doing something that harms esports is just dumb. Don't do it.
Players will do it to themselves, but they've earned that right because they're the reasons esports exists. Fans are important. Haters kill esports. Think about it, stop trash-talking, thanks!



Props to Idra vs Naniwa, I'd watch that shit. x)

And also props to Morrow vs Idra, nice show match.
maru lover forever
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
May 01 2012 15:45 GMT
#180
morrows TvZ is so gosu!
Where do whores go?
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 45 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
11:30
XXIX - Playoffs Final Day
Clem vs SerralLIVE!
TaKeTV291
Rex96
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft532
PiGStarcraft444
Rex 96
FoxeR 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3256
GuemChi 2979
Artosis 618
NaDa 20
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm173
League of Legends
Doublelift5965
Counter-Strike
summit1g11376
Fnx 1192
Coldzera 1103
Other Games
FrodaN3813
JimRising 387
ToD193
Maynarde113
UpATreeSC45
JuggernautJason9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick35999
BasetradeTV288
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream128
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 92
• Mapu3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra880
• HappyZerGling84
Upcoming Events
GSL
9h 58m
Replay Cast
22h 58m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 9h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.