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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
April 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#1921
i dont think there is a problem with their rules its more that they don`t seem to understand their own rules which makes it look bad on them and the players are probably wondering wtf?
MonsterBeast
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada193 Posts
April 22 2012 02:52 GMT
#1922
If drg is out I'll be too depressed to watch mlg anymore
It is what it is.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
April 22 2012 02:53 GMT
#1923
On April 22 2012 11:31 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Here, I'll break it down: 3 way tie, so to separate them, they take the total map score in games between these players since the matches scores are all 1-1.

Map scores between them:
Heart: 4-2
DRG: 3-3
Parting: 2-4

Parting is out, DRG should be 6th




I had it 20 minutes ago (more than that just deciding to post it later when no one understood)

There. GG
Never say die
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
April 22 2012 02:53 GMT
#1924
OK finally, they got it right officially. Imagine if they had screwed that up.
Team owner of team QTLing
DSVader
Profile Joined March 2012
United States28 Posts
April 22 2012 02:53 GMT
#1925
Ok it took them a while but they got it right in the end
Eruism
Profile Joined December 2011
United States312 Posts
April 22 2012 02:53 GMT
#1926
this mini pool rule is pretty dumb
PartinG MarineKing Mvp Polt Keen ByuN <3
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
April 22 2012 02:53 GMT
#1927
its official DRG is through
jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 02:54:28
April 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1928
On April 22 2012 11:48 JoelB wrote:
oh god MLG Why are you trying to invent the wheel all over again? Just take it from Champions League, WC or whatever ... Score > Head to Head > Difference between Won and Lost maps > Overall Won maps ... easy and fair ... no need for a stupid "mini pool"


You do realize that the UEFA Champions League group stage uses H2H goal differential (and H2H goals scored, and H2H away goals) before group goal differential to break ties, right? That seems analogous to using H2H map score before overall map score for this tournament.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1929
Right according to the rules, but I don't agree with the rules in this case.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
diddLY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
April 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1930
MKP, Ganzi, Violet, MC, Heart, DRG

Makes it through
Lorelia
Profile Joined April 2010
England28 Posts
April 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1931
On April 22 2012 11:50 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 11:48 Lorelia wrote:
It's funny that they made everyone play all 3 matches since, for example, the parting vs MC game 3 was irrelevant in deciding who went through. Hell, DRG could have lost to MKP and Ganzi 3-0 instead of 2-1 and still went through with map score of 7-14


Maybe but you can't know that for sure. For instance, when Heart was leading 2-0 against Parting, it turns out the 3rd game was the game that would decide the fate of both players (If I'm right and I am)

Edit: Ninajed just above :D


I see, but then that kind of makes things worse imo, as it gave some games a lot more relevance than others. Like how that 3rd game was a deciding factor, but DRG's 3rd game against MKP and Partings 3rd game against MC were pointless.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
April 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#1932
Heartbreak averted. Still feel like the rules are strange and that DRG should have been eliminated.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#1933
On April 22 2012 11:50 Femari wrote:
MLG dropped the ball with their rules.

It should go match record (all three are 3-4), winning percentage (Heart is no longer tied), then head to head/match record between the tied players.

Not this confusing nonsense.


Heart would be eliminated from the Tiebreaker as soon as he goes ahead of the others. But the thing is in this case Heart breaks his tie alongside DRG who also tiebreaks parting at the same time. If it was heart with most wins, then DRG/Parting were both with the same w/l record amongst the three then what you said would work.
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#1934
TP < ZP unless they are shared bases!
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#1935
Rules are rules. Doesn't matter if YOU feel they make sense or not...
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
April 22 2012 02:55 GMT
#1936
Grubby casting a 2v2!
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
April 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#1937
On April 22 2012 11:54 Lorelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 11:50 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On April 22 2012 11:48 Lorelia wrote:
It's funny that they made everyone play all 3 matches since, for example, the parting vs MC game 3 was irrelevant in deciding who went through. Hell, DRG could have lost to MKP and Ganzi 3-0 instead of 2-1 and still went through with map score of 7-14


Maybe but you can't know that for sure. For instance, when Heart was leading 2-0 against Parting, it turns out the 3rd game was the game that would decide the fate of both players (If I'm right and I am)

Edit: Ninajed just above :D


I see, but then that kind of makes things worse imo, as it gave some games a lot more relevance than others. Like how that 3rd game was a deciding factor, but DRG's 3rd game against MKP and Partings 3rd game against MC were pointless.


Not really, because the players can't know for sure that those games will be pointless. So you have to play your best every game. With this format, it's almost guaranteed that some 3rd game will be important
Never say die
spatz
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany153 Posts
April 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#1938
i rly like grubbys, tastosis' casting, i m ok with dj wheat but the other guys..c'mon!?
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
April 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#1939
On April 22 2012 11:54 Lorelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 11:50 Ghoststrikes wrote:
On April 22 2012 11:48 Lorelia wrote:
It's funny that they made everyone play all 3 matches since, for example, the parting vs MC game 3 was irrelevant in deciding who went through. Hell, DRG could have lost to MKP and Ganzi 3-0 instead of 2-1 and still went through with map score of 7-14


Maybe but you can't know that for sure. For instance, when Heart was leading 2-0 against Parting, it turns out the 3rd game was the game that would decide the fate of both players (If I'm right and I am)

Edit: Ninajed just above :D


I see, but then that kind of makes things worse imo, as it gave some games a lot more relevance than others. Like how that 3rd game was a deciding factor, but DRG's 3rd game against MKP and Partings 3rd game against MC were pointless.

That is true, but you don't know that in advance, do you? The ties could've been different.
Also, I suspect that part of the 3-games-no-matter-what rule is due to them wanting a maximum number of games for the spectators. And since you don't know if it's gonna be a meaningful game till the end, players will try hard too.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 22 2012 02:57 GMT
#1940
Even though I was cheering for PartinG over DRG, I'm happy 2 Protoss were eliminated because people only seem to balance whine when Protoss do well in comparison to the other 2 races.
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