• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:49
CEST 11:49
KST 18:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting9[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET1Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition32
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada herO Talks: Poor Performance at EWC and more... Revisiting the game after10 years and wow it's bad Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO
Tourneys
$1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) WardiTV Mondays RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET BW General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game [Interview] Grrrr... 2024 Pros React To: BarrackS + FlaSh Coaching vs SnOw
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal A
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Current Meta Siegecraft - a new perspective
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1445 users

DreamHack EIZO Open [Day 1] - Page 100

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 98 99 100 101 102 117 Next
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1981
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.


Xlord is both their ace player as well as their worst player :p
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1982
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.

They get exposure without having to invest in foreigners or teamless Koreans.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1983
TLO is playing pretty great.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1984
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.


They might have plans to recruit ? I am sure there is a thought more behind it then only sending XlorD out there.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1985
On April 22 2012 05:09 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:
I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o
It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?


He just won a BlizzCon lol :D

If by just won, you mean over a year ago.


Make that almost 2 :p

Jeez time flies.

Is it me, or is this LR thread particularly relaxed right now, its nice!


Many members are readying themselves for drama.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1986
Okay this stream is pretty frustrating. Bad obsing, and complementing TLO on how amazing his reaction was to the Stalkers, when the managed to cancel the 5th.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:12:26
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1987
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tv
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#1988
On April 22 2012 05:11 Licit wrote:
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tv

Naugrim fighting! :D
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1989
Puma is so doing a 2 base 1-1-1. Fuck yes.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1990
nice try mana haha
colossus attacking a stalker next to a burrowed roach, he just regens faster
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1991
Hyun is fairly new in the sc2 scene, we don't really know what he's capable of, let's not take gis merit.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
April 21 2012 20:14 GMT
#1992
2 base timing from Puma it seems.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1993
Liquid fighting!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:15:52
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1994
WP TLO.
Mana still hasn't got a clue in PvZ it seems.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Wurstbrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany89 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1995
Anyone else thinks these score-overlays are the best in history of sc2? they look so nice, I love this simple style.
Meantime
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany140 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1996
Damn, huge lag for me in the final engagement :/
I've been thinking what to do wit' my future. I could be a mud doctor. Checkin' out the eart'. Underneat'
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1997
TLO with infest+queen+ultra+brood smashes mana to win it!
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 21 2012 20:16 GMT
#1998
TLO :D !!!!!

2 2-0s... guaranteed to move on regardless of what happens with snute, right? Yay!!
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
April 21 2012 20:17 GMT
#1999
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.

15k to 35k+


15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.


Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^

Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine.

With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.


esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.


With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.


This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel.

The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.



Im pretty sure that smaller events in various sports pay to have big stars show up. Im thinking various tennis/athletics events. On the other hand, some sports have teams with ultra rich sponsors that pay for everything but that wont happen until your grandpa switches from wathching champions league to GSL... I guess.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 21 2012 20:17 GMT
#2000
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.

15k to 35k+


15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.


Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^

Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine.

With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.


esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.


With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.


This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel.

The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.



I totally agree with that. My mind was blown by Sundance's statement on Live On Three, that someone needs to pay the price of the players travels, and that MLG might as well be the ones taking the losses. That's not how a sustainable business/industry is supposed to be run. You just don't voluntary take losses for some kind of altruistic reasons just because the teams are not well run enough. I'm not sure if he was FOS when making that statement or if that's actually the way MLG is reasoning.

From MLG:s perspective it's possible it makes sense to pay for travels, but that should basically be considered a subsidy from the prize pool to players/teams who are less likely to take part of the actual prize pool. That is, if they pay for travels, it should reduce the prize pool to compensate in a way that MLG are still not running a loss. If costs are increased in one area, they need to be reduced in others.
Prev 1 98 99 100 101 102 117 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 333
SortOf 131
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4971
GuemChi 1492
actioN 511
Killer 440
firebathero 288
Mini 172
sorry 133
ToSsGirL 75
soO 25
Sacsri 24
[ Show more ]
Jaedong 24
ivOry 9
ZerO 7
Dota 2
XcaliburYe1015
Fuzer 129
League of Legends
JimRising 710
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K324
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
summit1g13748
singsing1519
C9.Mang0461
B2W.Neo451
Mew2King146
KnowMe113
ViBE100
oskar76
Trikslyr17
ZerO(Twitch)3
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL7601
Other Games
gamesdonequick1331
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH160
• LUISG 20
• Adnapsc2 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2467
• HappyZerGling126
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
11m
BSL Team A[vengers]
4h 11m
Bonyth vs Paralyze
StRyKeR vs Ample
Safe House 2
7h 11m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d
Safe House 2
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Online Event
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.