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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1981
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.


Xlord is both their ace player as well as their worst player :p
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1982
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.

They get exposure without having to invest in foreigners or teamless Koreans.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
April 21 2012 20:10 GMT
#1983
TLO is playing pretty great.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1984
On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote:
btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.


They might have plans to recruit ? I am sure there is a thought more behind it then only sending XlorD out there.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1985
On April 22 2012 05:09 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:
I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o
It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?


He just won a BlizzCon lol :D

If by just won, you mean over a year ago.


Make that almost 2 :p

Jeez time flies.

Is it me, or is this LR thread particularly relaxed right now, its nice!


Many members are readying themselves for drama.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1986
Okay this stream is pretty frustrating. Bad obsing, and complementing TLO on how amazing his reaction was to the Stalkers, when the managed to cancel the 5th.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Licit
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:12:26
April 21 2012 20:11 GMT
#1987
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tv
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
April 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#1988
On April 22 2012 05:11 Licit wrote:
Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0
Stim.tv

Naugrim fighting! :D
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1989
Puma is so doing a 2 base 1-1-1. Fuck yes.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1990
nice try mana haha
colossus attacking a stalker next to a burrowed roach, he just regens faster
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
April 21 2012 20:13 GMT
#1991
Hyun is fairly new in the sc2 scene, we don't really know what he's capable of, let's not take gis merit.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
April 21 2012 20:14 GMT
#1992
2 base timing from Puma it seems.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1993
Liquid fighting!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 20:15:52
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1994
WP TLO.
Mana still hasn't got a clue in PvZ it seems.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Wurstbrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany89 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1995
Anyone else thinks these score-overlays are the best in history of sc2? they look so nice, I love this simple style.
Meantime
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany140 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1996
Damn, huge lag for me in the final engagement :/
I've been thinking what to do wit' my future. I could be a mud doctor. Checkin' out the eart'. Underneat'
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
April 21 2012 20:15 GMT
#1997
TLO with infest+queen+ultra+brood smashes mana to win it!
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 21 2012 20:16 GMT
#1998
TLO :D !!!!!

2 2-0s... guaranteed to move on regardless of what happens with snute, right? Yay!!
Grubbegrabbn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden174 Posts
April 21 2012 20:17 GMT
#1999
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.

15k to 35k+


15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.


Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^

Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine.

With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.


esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.


With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.


This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel.

The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.



Im pretty sure that smaller events in various sports pay to have big stars show up. Im thinking various tennis/athletics events. On the other hand, some sports have teams with ultra rich sponsors that pay for everything but that wont happen until your grandpa switches from wathching champions league to GSL... I guess.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 21 2012 20:17 GMT
#2000
On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote:
This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.

15k to 35k+


15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not.


Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^

Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine.

With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool.


esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.


With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.


This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel.

The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.



I totally agree with that. My mind was blown by Sundance's statement on Live On Three, that someone needs to pay the price of the players travels, and that MLG might as well be the ones taking the losses. That's not how a sustainable business/industry is supposed to be run. You just don't voluntary take losses for some kind of altruistic reasons just because the teams are not well run enough. I'm not sure if he was FOS when making that statement or if that's actually the way MLG is reasoning.

From MLG:s perspective it's possible it makes sense to pay for travels, but that should basically be considered a subsidy from the prize pool to players/teams who are less likely to take part of the actual prize pool. That is, if they pay for travels, it should reduce the prize pool to compensate in a way that MLG are still not running a loss. If costs are increased in one area, they need to be reduced in others.
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