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On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote: btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
Xlord is both their ace player as well as their worst player :p
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On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote: btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story. They get exposure without having to invest in foreigners or teamless Koreans.
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TLO is playing pretty great.
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On April 22 2012 05:09 Wurstbrot wrote: btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
They might have plans to recruit ? I am sure there is a thought more behind it then only sending XlorD out there.
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On April 22 2012 05:09 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:08 Fragile51 wrote:On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? He just won a BlizzCon lol :D If by just won, you mean over a year ago. Make that almost 2 :p Jeez time flies. Is it me, or is this LR thread particularly relaxed right now, its nice!
Many members are readying themselves for drama.
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Okay this stream is pretty frustrating. Bad obsing, and complementing TLO on how amazing his reaction was to the Stalkers, when the managed to cancel the 5th.
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Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0 Stim.tv
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On April 22 2012 05:11 Licit wrote: Naugrim - Thorzain 1-0 Stim.tv Naugrim fighting! :D
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Puma is so doing a 2 base 1-1-1. Fuck yes.
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nice try mana haha colossus attacking a stalker next to a burrowed roach, he just regens faster
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Hyun is fairly new in the sc2 scene, we don't really know what he's capable of, let's not take gis merit.
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2 base timing from Puma it seems.
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WP TLO. Mana still hasn't got a clue in PvZ it seems.
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Anyone else thinks these score-overlays are the best in history of sc2? they look so nice, I love this simple style.
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Damn, huge lag for me in the final engagement :/
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TLO with infest+queen+ultra+brood smashes mana to win it!
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TLO :D !!!!!
2 2-0s... guaranteed to move on regardless of what happens with snute, right? Yay!!
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On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote: This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+ 15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not. Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^ Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool. esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well. With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible. This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel. The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.
Im pretty sure that smaller events in various sports pay to have big stars show up. Im thinking various tennis/athletics events. On the other hand, some sports have teams with ultra rich sponsors that pay for everything but that wont happen until your grandpa switches from wathching champions league to GSL... I guess.
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On April 22 2012 05:08 ken- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote: This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+ 15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not. Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^ Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool. esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well. With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible. This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel. The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.
I totally agree with that. My mind was blown by Sundance's statement on Live On Three, that someone needs to pay the price of the players travels, and that MLG might as well be the ones taking the losses. That's not how a sustainable business/industry is supposed to be run. You just don't voluntary take losses for some kind of altruistic reasons just because the teams are not well run enough. I'm not sure if he was FOS when making that statement or if that's actually the way MLG is reasoning.
From MLG:s perspective it's possible it makes sense to pay for travels, but that should basically be considered a subsidy from the prize pool to players/teams who are less likely to take part of the actual prize pool. That is, if they pay for travels, it should reduce the prize pool to compensate in a way that MLG are still not running a loss. If costs are increased in one area, they need to be reduced in others.
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