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On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote: This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+ 15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not. Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^ Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool. esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well.
With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.
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Traitor! D:
EDIT: Oh shit, i have a Sair. Awesome. How does the symbol above my posts change btw? Post count?
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I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
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On April 22 2012 05:04 Fragile51 wrote:Traitor! D: Wtf? After all that happened during the 1/1/1 era I thought he had no Protoss fans? lol
On April 22 2012 05:04 Fragile51 wrote:Traitor! D: EDIT: Oh shit, i have a Sair. Awesome. How does the symbol above my posts change btw? Post count? As far as I know its Post count/Membership time plus potential unknown factors that TL staff keeps secret
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On April 22 2012 05:05 Noocta wrote: I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
No, he's been to another DH.
EDIT: He was also the first winner of the sc2 Blizzcon.
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On April 22 2012 05:05 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:05 Noocta wrote: I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? No, he's been to another DH. And blizzcon 2010 or whenever it was.
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On April 22 2012 05:05 Noocta wrote: I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
No he won a Blizzcon before, and i believe he did MLG aswell
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On April 22 2012 05:05 HaXXspetten wrote:Wtf? After all that happened during the 1/1/1 era I thought he had no Protoss fans? lol
Hate and love are crossed by a thin line
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Ah, Mana vs TLO, COME ON MANA!
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I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
He just won a BlizzCon lol :D
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On April 22 2012 05:05 Noocta wrote: I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ?
he was at dremhack winter last year.
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On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:Show nested quote +I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? He just won a BlizzCon lol :D If by just won, you mean over a year ago.
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At least they are both tired.
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Hahaha, that made me laugh more than what's appropriate.
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On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? He just won a BlizzCon lol :D If by just won, you mean over a year ago.
Make that almost 2 :p
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On April 22 2012 05:04 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:00 KalWarkov wrote:On April 22 2012 04:59 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 04:55 Asha` wrote:On April 22 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:On April 22 2012 04:52 ken- wrote: This MLG/DH partnership is working out great for DH... MLG gave them all there viewers.
15k to 35k+ 15k is huge for MLG because each one of those viewers is a paying customer. They're getting a lot of doe; DH is not. Dreamhack doesn't need to make PPV qualifiers to do well enough to continue to develop and expand ^^ Exactly. Remember when Sundance was saying the PPV would have to be adopted by everyone, and was necessary, as no group was making money, I'm pretty sure the Dreamhack people came out and said they are doing fine. With the adoption of now being an open tournament (I hated that they did not do that last year) Dreamhack has become pretty much the best tournament, its pretty perfect, aside from the bad map pool. esl survives for 10 years now without such models, and they do farily ok as well. With an evolving scene it's possible the business model needs to change, with increasing prizes to players etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case, but it's possible.
This is pretty much the problem. The teams should be sending there players to events not the other way around. Every other professional sport the team pays for travel.
The main problem is most teams aren't ran properly and don't make enough money to do this.
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On April 22 2012 05:08 TheBanana wrote:Hahaha, that made me laugh more than what's appropriate.
There was one with "Nuclear Launch Detected" but don't have a link. It was funny as well.
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On April 22 2012 05:08 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 05:07 MCDayC wrote:On April 22 2012 05:07 Wurstbrot wrote:I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? He just won a BlizzCon lol :D If by just won, you mean over a year ago. Make that almost 2 :p Jeez time flies.
Is it me, or is this LR thread particularly relaxed right now, its nice!
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On April 22 2012 05:05 Noocta wrote: I didn't even know Genius was at DH. :o It's his first trip outside of Korea, right ? No, he was at Dreamhack Winter as well and he won Blizzcon 2010.
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btw why the heck MYM got a partnership with MVP? They pay money only to get XlorD some korean practice? I don't get what MYM gets from it. That their Ace-Player is XlorD tells the whole story.
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