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[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Code S Ro32 Group F - Page 59

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SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:01:57
April 12 2012 11:01 GMT
#1161
roach ling all in or baneling bust incoming(hope im wrong).
Progamer
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 12 2012 11:01 GMT
#1162
On April 12 2012 19:59 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:58 KristofferAG wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:56 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:54 MCDayC wrote:
Raven's are actually really powerful vs Broods, it's just really hard to pull off, one mistep vs the infestors and GG.


Seeker missiles can hit air right? are they effective against slow BLds? I'm not terran so this might come out as a really noob question.

It can do a lot of damage, but blords are rarely clumped up enough.

Can seeker missiles get fungal'd?


They can't be fungal'd.

On a different note: The range to cast Seeker missiles is just too short, you will always lose some ravens and they are too expensive to be used as suicide units.


Off topic: I agree, don't know why its so short ranged. Almost all Caster units can cast their spells at a reasonable distance, Raven is to expensive to risk them
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
April 12 2012 11:01 GMT
#1163
Is it just me or GOMTV HQ stream kinda badddddd? I'm pretty sure it was a lot better and seeing the quality from other tournaments HD streams GOMs stream looks bad really.... -.-
Anyone else?
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 12 2012 11:01 GMT
#1164
This map is still in the pool? Oo' Weird.
Revolutionist fan
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1165
On April 12 2012 19:59 Perfecto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:57 UmbeXCII wrote:
Serious question?
Why every zerg doesn't just do stephano's build vs FFE?


Stephano's build got crushed by MC at the Blizzard Cup correct? Koreans know how to use their force fields.


That was a long time ago in sc2 time. He does it much much better nowadays.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1166
On April 12 2012 19:58 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:56 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:54 MCDayC wrote:
Raven's are actually really powerful vs Broods, it's just really hard to pull off, one mistep vs the infestors and GG.


Seeker missiles can hit air right? are they effective against slow BLds? I'm not terran so this might come out as a really noob question.

It can do a lot of damage, but blords are rarely clumped up enough.

Can seeker missiles get fungal'd?


In my opinion, it's the corruptors you want to target with seeker missile. Once they are out of the picture, your vikings can deal with the broodlords a lot easier than being hit by 200hp corruptors plus infestor fungals.
-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1167
On April 12 2012 20:00 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:59 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:58 zaii wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:57 UmbeXCII wrote:
Serious question?
Why every zerg doesn't just do stephano's build vs FFE?


whats stephanos build?


I guess they mean the max on roaches at 10 minutes and Kill the P


I think we need to keep it going...

It's the build, where you max out on roaches at about 09:00 and go kill the toss XD


Doesn't he start the game with 200/200 roaches vs 6 probes?
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1168
On April 12 2012 19:59 najreteip wrote:
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On April 12 2012 19:57 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:56 ReadySetFire wrote:
MC has been dethroned as the king of 2 base all ins


This one definitely wasn't an all in

It was, no robo, twilight council or 3rd base.
Nothing wrong with that though


He was 8 probes behind, Leenock had no upgrades, no roach warren and 0 tech past Lair
dohgg
Profile Joined February 2011
310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:03:06
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1169
Well dont get me wrong, squirtle is a really good toss but i am feeling hes being so good recentley mainly cuz of a factor of supprise and awsome builds, i mean u can see how his lategame micro on mma's 1st game with ht was bad, and now vs leenock quite bad forcfields, yet leenock was greedy with trying defending with lings only.

I just feel like squirtle wont hang long time on the top tier of player, skillwise, once he'll be quite figured out with his build.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1170
On April 12 2012 19:49 pdd wrote:
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On April 12 2012 19:46 Audemed wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:45 Scila wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:44 Audemed wrote:
Why would Yamato BC's not do well vs this sort of zerg play? Serious question.


BCs take too long to build, and are easily countered by Corruptors + Neural Parasite.


Broodlords really need to be made from a different unit other than corruptors.

Lol you want to use air unitz? K i maek corruptor. Lol now i haz gglords.

That's why the Ghost nerf was bad. It was imba vs Ultralisks, but against Broodlord it was a little bit balanced... this is because Corruptor/Infestor/Broodlord is just difficult to deal with with pure marine-viking alone.


Other way around bro :p
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27302 Posts
April 12 2012 11:02 GMT
#1171
On April 12 2012 19:59 Perfecto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:57 UmbeXCII wrote:
Serious question?
Why every zerg doesn't just do stephano's build vs FFE?


Stephano's build got crushed by MC at the Blizzard Cup correct? Koreans know how to use their force fields.

MC, I don't know he's either more efficient at forcefielding or something but he's the only guy I've seen consistently beating Stephano's style. Seen many MC-esque 2 base timings from other players, but when not in his hands Stephano seems to stomp them down.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
April 12 2012 11:03 GMT
#1172
On April 12 2012 20:01 adiga wrote:
Is it just me or GOMTV HQ stream kinda badddddd? I'm pretty sure it was a lot better and seeing the quality from other tournaments HD streams GOMs stream looks bad really.... -.-
Anyone else?


Yes
Perfecto
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines156 Posts
April 12 2012 11:03 GMT
#1173
On April 12 2012 20:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:56 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:54 MCDayC wrote:
Raven's are actually really powerful vs Broods, it's just really hard to pull off, one mistep vs the infestors and GG.


Seeker missiles can hit air right? are they effective against slow BLds? I'm not terran so this might come out as a really noob question.


the problem with seeker missle is 2 fold.

First it requires ravens and each raven costs 200 gas. So it's a super expensive investment for Seeker Missle which also requires research.

Second, each Raven can fire a maximum of 1 seeker missle per energy bar, and 1 seeker missle doesn't do anything to something that has much health as Brood Lords even if they're slow.

So. You need multiple ravens firing multiple Seeker missles to cause any damage to a Brood Lord army and considering their gas cost and the fact they come only from a tech labbed starport, each Raven you make is that many Vikings you CAN'T make.

In general Seeker Missle is just a risky solution at best and that's assuming you manage to even get a Seeker Missle off.




Oh I see.
He drone drone drone. I All in I win.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 12 2012 11:03 GMT
#1174
On April 12 2012 20:00 scypio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:59 windsupernova wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:58 zaii wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:57 UmbeXCII wrote:
Serious question?
Why every zerg doesn't just do stephano's build vs FFE?


whats stephanos build?


I guess they mean the max on roaches at 10 minutes and Kill the P


I think we need to keep it going...

It's the build, where you max out on roaches at about 09:00 and go kill the toss XD

Lol 9:00.. I like how it keeps getting less! Its normally about 11:30ish if the toss hasn't done any successful damage/pressure.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 12 2012 11:03 GMT
#1175
On April 12 2012 20:01 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:59 Yello wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:58 KristofferAG wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:56 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:54 MCDayC wrote:
Raven's are actually really powerful vs Broods, it's just really hard to pull off, one mistep vs the infestors and GG.


Seeker missiles can hit air right? are they effective against slow BLds? I'm not terran so this might come out as a really noob question.

It can do a lot of damage, but blords are rarely clumped up enough.

Can seeker missiles get fungal'd?


They can't be fungal'd.

On a different note: The range to cast Seeker missiles is just too short, you will always lose some ravens and they are too expensive to be used as suicide units.


Off topic: I agree, don't know why its so short ranged. Almost all Caster units can cast their spells at a reasonable distance, Raven is to expensive to risk them


Because Seeker Missle is stupidly designed.

Unlike the other spells in the game that are all essentially damage over time effects Seeker Missle is burst damage. This means that it benefits much more from chain casting than Storm or Fungal Growth does. You can eradicate entire expensive armies with JUST Seeker Missles theoretically in a way you just can't do with Storm or Fungal Growth so it makes it very difficult to balance.

It's either potentially overpowered or it's worthless. As it stands now with its energy cost, range, and cost of the Raven it's edging on the worthless side.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
April 12 2012 11:03 GMT
#1176
Railroad tycoon 2 ftw
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#1177
On April 12 2012 20:02 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:59 najreteip wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:57 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:56 ReadySetFire wrote:
MC has been dethroned as the king of 2 base all ins


This one definitely wasn't an all in

It was, no robo, twilight council or 3rd base.
Nothing wrong with that though


He was 8 probes behind, Leenock had no upgrades, no roach warren and 0 tech past Lair


Let me rephrase that, Leenock had a tech advantage because he had lair
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:04:38
April 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#1178
What games did Artosis friend ment?? It's on google store?? Please link it^^
edit, or tell name* if you know it
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:05:59
April 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#1179
On April 12 2012 20:02 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 19:59 Perfecto wrote:
On April 12 2012 19:57 UmbeXCII wrote:
Serious question?
Why every zerg doesn't just do stephano's build vs FFE?


Stephano's build got crushed by MC at the Blizzard Cup correct? Koreans know how to use their force fields.

MC, I don't know he's either more efficient at forcefielding or something but he's the only guy I've seen consistently beating Stephano's style. Seen many MC-esque 2 base timings from other players, but when not in his hands Stephano seems to stomp them down.



In BlizzCup, it was a Bo1 and Stephano just roach all-ined against an FFE on Dual Sight.

But yes, in general MC is the guy who has never dropped a map to Stephano in PvZ. But that might be because MC is (IMO) the best PvZer in the world right now.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
April 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#1180
Artosis is zerg again? Man, I am so out of the loop. How long has that been?
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