EPT[IPL] FC14: viOLet vs MC - Page 8
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Fenneth
Australia354 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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Vetrocide
Norway600 Posts
On April 04 2012 10:43 Ventor wrote: Please take your whining elsewhere, you zerg player. Better yet, quit the game because forcefields aren't going anywhere. People saying stuff like this pisses me off. Did I whine? I was just pointing out that I think force fields broke the game. I think it's broken because it eliminates micro from the opponent and is just flat out boring to watch as well. I think it's a fundamental problem to the game and doesn't necessarily have to do anything with balance.You dont have to jump to the fucking gun before thinking twice. | ||
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Shaddar
675 Posts
On April 04 2012 11:01 Vetrocide wrote: Did I whine? I was just pointing out that I think force fields broke the game. I think it's broken because it eliminates micro from the opponent and is just flat out boring to watch as well. I think it's a fundamental problem to the game and doesn't necessarily have to do anything with balance.You dont have to jump to the fucking gun before thinking twice. Well if you remove forcefields you break protoss unless you massively buff zealots and stalkers | ||
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iCCup.Nove
United States260 Posts
On April 04 2012 11:01 Vetrocide wrote: Did I whine? I was just pointing out that I think force fields broke the game. I think it's broken because it eliminates micro from the opponent and is just flat out boring to watch as well. I think it's a fundamental problem to the game and doesn't necessarily have to do anything with balance.You dont have to jump to the fucking gun before thinking twice. I don't normally respond to these sort of comments but I can't help it due to the amount of PvZs i've been losing lately. Forcefields are the only thing that keep the protoss in the game at all when the zerg goes 3 base roach. Forcefields and 2 base all-ining. (Which the commentators dislike I guess). I'm not complaining about zerg being overpowered or anything, i'm really saying that no protoss has a good answer to a roach build. That's one reason I'm watching this stream, to see if MC has any good builds I may be able to use. Don't believe me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320894 To further prove my point, here is mc proxy gating. | ||
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Vetrocide
Norway600 Posts
On April 04 2012 11:11 iCCup.Nove wrote: I don't normally respond to these sort of comments but I can't help it due to the amount of PvZs i've been losing lately. Forcefields are the only thing that keep the protoss in the game at all when the zerg goes 3 base roach. Forcefields and 2 base all-ining. (Which the commentators dislike I guess). I'm not complaining about zerg being overpowered or anything, i'm really saying that no protoss has a good answer to a roach build. That's one reason I'm watching this stream, to see if MC has any good builds I may be able to use. Don't believe me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320894 To further prove my point, here is mc proxy gating. Yes, it is the only thing that keep Protoss in the game, which is WHY the whole thing is fundamentally broken to begin with. I don't disagree with you, I was just voicing my opinion about how FF is just plain out stupid and boring from the get go, which we saw an example of in that game. Watching tons of roaches get trapped in a doughnut is just plain boring to watch and play with, and theres no micro to be done from the roach player, which is why I think it's stupid. Protoss stays in the game sure, but he does it because of his ability to place FF, and if he's bad at it then he just loses, which is bad for overall gameplay. Anyway this discussion doesn't belong in an LR thread so let's just stop. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On April 04 2012 11:01 Vetrocide wrote: Did I whine? I was just pointing out that I think force fields broke the game. I think it's broken because it eliminates micro from the opponent and is just flat out boring to watch as well. I think it's a fundamental problem to the game and doesn't necessarily have to do anything with balance.You dont have to jump to the fucking gun before thinking twice. I think good force fields are beautiful to watch imo. | ||
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Checkm8
Japan627 Posts
On April 04 2012 11:17 Vetrocide wrote: Yes, it is the only thing that keep Protoss in the game, which is WHY the whole thing is fundamentally broken to begin with. I don't disagree with you, I was just voicing my opinion about how FF is just plain out stupid and boring from the get go, which we saw an example of in that game. Watching tons of roaches get trapped in a doughnut is just plain boring to watch and play with, and theres no micro to be done from the roach player, which is why I think it's stupid. Protoss stays in the game sure, but he does it because of his ability to place FF, and if he's bad at it then he just loses, which is bad for overall gameplay. Anyway this discussion doesn't belong in an LR thread so let's just stop. I don't even think it belongs here in TL at all... Balance whining is expressing one's opinions about how there is imbalance or how something broke the game... And I'm not gonna try defend, cuz others will just try to follow-up and TL would turn into b.net forums which are just sickening to even have a glimpse at. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On April 04 2012 14:08 samurai80 wrote: I think good force fields are beautiful to watch imo. Watching good force fields is like an art. Sadly, very few do it as beautifully as MC does. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
What about to someone who dislikes MC going 2-base every game? | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On April 04 2012 18:12 Bagi wrote: Would you guys recommend watching this series? What about to someone who dislikes MC going 2-base every game? From the few games I watched, that didn't happen. They were some good games, but only if you like MC crushing. | ||
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
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blacklist_member
Australia318 Posts
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:25 blacklist_member wrote: Wow, if MCs next oppponent is stephano, its going to be so awesome. BO9 between two of the best players of PvZ. No, its not gonna be awesome. Stephano sucks against korean protoss'es and often proved so. He can't even beat Inori, a Code B protoss and has a terrible w/l ratio against MC (0:4). | ||
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HGurryp
275 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:25 blacklist_member wrote: Wow, if MCs next oppponent is stephano, its going to be so awesome. BO9 between two of the best players of PvZ. Stephano never won against MC, and Stephano has a good ZVp but not in korean level, only top foreigners protoss, but foreigner protoss are nothing compared to MC, Genius, Parting, Hero and OZ. | ||
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Ucs
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